tenancy complaint - mess

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superlightr

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12,856 posts

263 months

Tuesday 19th September 2017
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Ahbefive said:
The van is nothing, people have vans. The mess that the van driver is storing in the corner is tttish as is the dust everywhere from dragging crap out of his van.

The letting agent is totally st and should just have a quiet word.
ok not sure what we have done wrong and why? also - what would you say and to who?


Edited by superlightr on Tuesday 19th September 21:38

Bristol spark

4,382 posts

183 months

Tuesday 19th September 2017
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Wings said:
superlightr said:
??? sorry wings I don't understand your post?

how did you read into this topic that the tenants were not fully referenced? or in anyway at fault in this?

they were referenced and are good tenants.


Edited by superlightr on Tuesday 19th September 19:37
Your tenant does not appear to be of a trade, that i would consider renting a property to, and i suspect other landlords would be of the same opinion.
Are you suggesting that anyone who works in construction should not be able to rent a house??

Ahbefive

11,657 posts

172 months

Tuesday 19th September 2017
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I'd suggest that the bush or driveway is not meant to be used as a skip, temporarily or otherwise and that people only have storage space in their garages or houses and not in the communal areas or driveways.

I'm sure you would be happy if someone just put a pallet of crap under a tarp on the verge at the end of your driveway but some people don't find it appealing.

superlightr

Original Poster:

12,856 posts

263 months

Tuesday 19th September 2017
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Ahbefive said:
I'd suggest that the bush or driveway is not meant to be used as a skip, temporarily or otherwise and that people only have storage space in their garages or houses and not in the communal areas or driveways.

I'm sure you would be happy if someone just put a pallet of crap under a tarp on the verge at the end of your driveway but some people don't find it appealing.
Do the items in the photo really upset you that much? Do you think it would be fair to evict a tenant for or to give them notice to leave ? On what evidence? and what breach of a tenancy agreement would that be under?

and if the tenant says no? and the landlord is not concerned over it? then what? BTW ive confirmed already the owner is aware and cannot see the issue and does not want to upset the tenants who are good.

So now what?

do you think putting a Gnome on top would heighten the outlook? Do you like Gnomes? - I think they look messy but other people seem to put these lumps of concrete in their gardens - what if the Gnomes weren't painted ? just be lumps of unpainted concrete would they not?

what do you think of this garden - do you want them given a stern talking too if a neighbour complains or evicted?



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eldar

21,750 posts

196 months

Tuesday 19th September 2017
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Alucidnation said:
Who said anything about knocking on doors?

A politely worded letter is sufficient.

And if the tenant gave any attitude, their tenancy would not be extended.
I think you make my point for me yet again.

surveyor

17,823 posts

184 months

Tuesday 19th September 2017
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I've been thinking about this thread. I think the OP is making a mistake engaging with the neighbour. If they think they are being taken seriously they will end up becoming a bigger pain in the ass.

I also think the tenant should be told of the complaint (altkugh maybe not identifying the person), even if only so they are aware that the pain in the arse is watcbing. It can be done in a none threatening way.

ojoman

61 posts

101 months

Tuesday 19th September 2017
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Wings said:
Your tenant does not appear to be of a trade, that i would consider renting a property to, and i suspect other landlords would be of the same opinion.
I suggest anybody with a poor command of punctuation should not be granted a keyboard to use.

Wings

5,814 posts

215 months

Tuesday 19th September 2017
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Bristol spark said:
Are you suggesting that anyone who works in construction should not be able to rent a house??
No, I am saying that I have refused to rent a residential property to a builder, that same trade being one of a number of trades, professions that i have refused to rent residential to. My mindset is to reduce wear and tear on a rental property, and to that end that might not only include a potential tenant/s profession, but also the number of adults, children in the potential tenant's family. I am also on good terms with immediate neighbours of the rental property, and therefore i give consideration to those same neighbours when vetting potental tenants.

Ahbefive

11,657 posts

172 months

Tuesday 19th September 2017
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superlightr said:
Do the items in the photo really upset you that much? Do you think it would be fair to evict a tenant for or to give them notice to leave ? On what evidence? and what breach of a tenancy agreement would that be under?

and if the tenant says no? and the landlord is not concerned over it? then what? BTW ive confirmed already the owner is aware and cannot see the issue and does not want to upset the tenants who are good.

So now what?

do you think putting a Gnome on top would heighten the outlook? Do you like Gnomes? - I think they look messy but other people seem to put these lumps of concrete in their gardens - what if the Gnomes weren't painted ? just be lumps of unpainted concrete would they not?

what do you think of this garden - do you want them given a stern talking too if a neighbour complains or evicted?



Edited by superlightr on Tuesday 19th September 22:22
I think that if I had to look atbthet every day it would start to grate. Not a big issue as a one off but as a constant it would be annoying if everything else looks neat and tidy. Why do they need to store stuff there?

Maybe not worth evicting over but if itvwas to grow to say 2 or 3 times the size would you not then think its about time to have a word? What if crap fills his whole driveway? Is that still not enough of an eyesore to do something about? Maybe you will only see it when it is a total gypsy camp?

I don't know what you are on about with the gnomes. Very odd. Estate agents eh......

deckster

9,630 posts

255 months

Tuesday 19th September 2017
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Blimey. I must be the villain of the neighbourhood then according to some of you guys. I've been building a deck on and off since May and at various times have had piles of wood, decking material, paving slabs, a tonne of gravel and a few other bits and bobs on my driveway. In fact there is still a couple of packs of 8' timber joists and half a pallet of slabs there now. I never for a second thought that I would be causing any neighborly angst, but clearly I'm a lowlife (or, perhaps worse, a builder eek).

voyds9

8,488 posts

283 months

Tuesday 19th September 2017
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Nope still looking for the waste

Is it behind that lovely piece of modern art.

chow pan toon

12,387 posts

237 months

Tuesday 19th September 2017
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eldar said:
Alucidnation said:
Who said anything about knocking on doors?

A politely worded letter is sufficient.

And if the tenant gave any attitude, their tenancy would not be extended.
I think you make my point for me yet again.
Alucidnation seems like he probably knocks one out at the feeling of power he has over someone else's life. Truly pathetic.

chow pan toon

12,387 posts

237 months

Tuesday 19th September 2017
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Ahbefive said:
Maybe not worth evicting over but if itvwas to grow to say 2 or 3 times the size would you not then think its about time to have a word? What if crap fills his whole driveway? Is that still not enough of an eyesore to do something about? Maybe you will only see it when it is a total gypsy camp?
What if it grew to a million times the size and nobody could get into the whole town!!!! What if it was high level nuclear waste!??? What if the Calais Jungle was there???!??

QuickQuack

2,200 posts

101 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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Wings said:
No, I am saying that I have refused to rent a residential property to a builder, that same trade being one of a number of trades, professions that i have refused to rent residential to. My mindset is to reduce wear and tear on a rental property, and to that end that might not only include a potential tenant/s profession, but also the number of adults, children in the potential tenant's family. I am also on good terms with immediate neighbours of the rental property, and therefore i give consideration to those same neighbours when vetting potental tenants.
Do you live in a residential property? Who do you think built your residence, did it just appear by divine intervention or was it builders, plumbers, decorators, electricians, carpenters and all the other tradesmen who built it? And how should those same tradesmen who built your house live, in a cave somewhere out of sight? It's plain and simple discrimination. You're not some sort of a superior being because you aren't a tradesman or you earn more. If anything, the derision you show to them makes you beneath contempt. What are your approved occupations then? Teachers? Nurses? Cardiac surgeons? MPs?

I seriously think that people who want to be landlords should be vetted before they're allowed to rent anything out so that bigots can be weeded out.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

170 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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chow pan toon said:
Alucidnation seems like he probably knocks one out at the feeling of power he has over someone else's life. Truly pathetic.
You're not a landlord are you?

However you are mildly correct.

I like to call it firm but fair.

Edited by Alucidnation on Wednesday 20th September 05:56

chow pan toon

12,387 posts

237 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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Alucidnation said:
chow pan toon said:
Alucidnation seems like he probably knocks one out at the feeling of power he has over someone else's life. Truly pathetic.
You're not a landlord are you?

However you are mildly correct.

I like to call it firm but fair.

Edited by Alucidnation on Wednesday 20th September 05:56
Nope, although if I do ever get the craving for supplicants I'll be sure to pick up a BTL.

Ahbefive

11,657 posts

172 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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chow pan toon said:
Ahbefive said:
Maybe not worth evicting over but if itvwas to grow to say 2 or 3 times the size would you not then think its about time to have a word? What if crap fills his whole driveway? Is that still not enough of an eyesore to do something about? Maybe you will only see it when it is a total gypsy camp?
What if it grew to a million times the size and nobody could get into the whole town!!!! What if it was high level nuclear waste!??? What if the Calais Jungle was there???!??
Indeed, when will the agent finally find that the build up is too much? How much does it have to grow or what sort of waste would make it suddenly become unsuitable. Or is there just no limits? These sorts of things need to be nipped in the bud before they become a big problem.

Also, if the tenant decides to leave? Will he leave his pile of crap for the letting agent to deal with? I doubt it's part of the inventory being launched in the communal soft landscaping area. He could jut claim it wasn't his and the OP that has been so uselessly inneffective would suddenly have to get rid.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

170 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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chow pan toon said:
Alucidnation said:
chow pan toon said:
Alucidnation seems like he probably knocks one out at the feeling of power he has over someone else's life. Truly pathetic.
You're not a landlord are you?

However you are mildly correct.

I like to call it firm but fair.

Edited by Alucidnation on Wednesday 20th September 05:56
Nope, although if I do ever get the craving for supplicants I'll be sure to pick up a BTL.
Indeed.

It certainly satisfies mine.

surveyor

17,823 posts

184 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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Ahbefive said:
Indeed, when will the agent finally find that the build up is too much? How much does it have to grow or what sort of waste would make it suddenly become unsuitable. Or is there just no limits? These sorts of things need to be nipped in the bud before they become a big problem.

Also, if the tenant decides to leave? Will he leave his pile of crap for the letting agent to deal with? I doubt it's part of the inventory being launched in the communal soft landscaping area. He could jut claim it wasn't his and the OP that has been so uselessly inneffective would suddenly have to get rid.
Does not look communal to me at all...

RTB

8,273 posts

258 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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The neighbour is trying to get the tenant in trouble with his landlord because the neighbour doesn't have the guts to go and have a quick chat with the tenant himself. It's pretty cowardly behaviour, especially over something as minor as a few bricks under a tarp.

I had a very similar situation when the neighbour of my tenant came round to complain about a very minor incident. The neighbour was expecting me to go and wade into a very good tenant, who looks after one of my biggest assets and pays the mortgage for me every month because he didn't have the balls to go and see the tenant himself about the minor issue they were having. The neighbour didn't seem to understand that I'd sooner he was upset than my (very good) tenant.