Is crime out of control in your area?
Discussion
stupidbutkeen said:
It is threads like these makes me thankfull I live were I live tbh.
People think the council estate I live and own my house is as bad as the name it had 20 years ago ,But the local boyyos (UDA) have made sure the area is crime and drug free.
Any antisocal stuff is nipped in the bud and I have not seen or heard of any trouble in the last 15 years now when a pedo was given a house in the area, He was out of the area within a few days.
When you write about these things it sounds bad still tbh but...........
I can go out to work and leave my keys in the door knowing I will come home to the keys in next door after the postie has found them.( yes I have done that a couple of times.
My motorbike lives outside in my front garden without any locks etc bar the steering lock ( 2016 mt09 tracer) with a daytona, a xj6, a box eye fazer and the 125's I have owned before that.
My car stays in a car park out of sight from my house and I know its safe.
I can sit out my back garden in the summer months and its quiet and peacefull
My wife says she feels safe at night walking to the shops etc and loves the area so much she refuses to sell and move to a better house in a so called nicer area.
The phrase "dont sPeople think the council estate I live and own my house is as bad as the name it had 20 years ago ,But the local boyyos (UDA) have made sure the area is crime and drug free.
Any antisocal stuff is nipped in the bud and I have not seen or heard of any trouble in the last 15 years now when a pedo was given a house in the area, He was out of the area within a few days.
When you write about these things it sounds bad still tbh but...........
I can go out to work and leave my keys in the door knowing I will come home to the keys in next door after the postie has found them.( yes I have done that a couple of times.
My motorbike lives outside in my front garden without any locks etc bar the steering lock ( 2016 mt09 tracer) with a daytona, a xj6, a box eye fazer and the 125's I have owned before that.
My car stays in a car park out of sight from my house and I know its safe.
I can sit out my back garden in the summer months and its quiet and peacefull
My wife says she feels safe at night walking to the shops etc and loves the area so much she refuses to sell and move to a better house in a so called nicer area.
t in your own back yard" is definitely still applicable thenSingapore, so basically one of the world centres for money laundering... the recent 1MDB scandal was so blatant though that even the singaporeans had to do something about it
And standard chartered now in the news for a 1.4 billion USD transfer out of here to Guernsey coincidently just before the SG Govt started sharing tax information with Indonesia... rumour is ‘military linked’ ie bribe money
And standard chartered now in the news for a 1.4 billion USD transfer out of here to Guernsey coincidently just before the SG Govt started sharing tax information with Indonesia... rumour is ‘military linked’ ie bribe money
Dammit said:
So, to sum up the thread so far - we should imprison more people, with fewer police, whilst paying less tax, and potentially become vigilantes and also employ private security services.
These all sound like fantastic ideas which are bound to reduce offending.
Thats what you took from this thread?!These all sound like fantastic ideas which are bound to reduce offending.
I took that I should heat lemon drizzle cake, and microwave strawberries for 5 seconds.
Hmmm....
Breadvan72 said:
Why not go the whole hog and invite the Taleban to take over?
Ahhh almost but hit the bar with that one..... The culture difference would be hard to overcome for them, Growing a beard is not for everyone and they would stuggle with the drink problem. But at least your getting into the spirit of the idea
Huge local crimewave in my area, Berkshire. Targeting farms and anything rural. There literally no stopping them, one farmer had pulled out all the stops on security, they just cut through posts and steel doors with a Stihl saw.
Our neighbours have taken to parking an air-braked waggon on their lane at night so it is impassable. It won't help, these people stole a speedboat in another village, dragged it over two fields to get it out.
God knows where it all ends up.
Our neighbours have taken to parking an air-braked waggon on their lane at night so it is impassable. It won't help, these people stole a speedboat in another village, dragged it over two fields to get it out.
God knows where it all ends up.
In my search to find if crime was out of control in my area, I used this nice tool that the police provide:
Crime in your area
I went back six months and was horrified to see that although no crimes at all occurred in my road in that period, there were at least 5 instances of anti-social behaviour reported in neighbouring roads. So, my local crime wave now all of a sudden feels very very real.
Crime in your area
I went back six months and was horrified to see that although no crimes at all occurred in my road in that period, there were at least 5 instances of anti-social behaviour reported in neighbouring roads. So, my local crime wave now all of a sudden feels very very real.
rxe said:
Huge local crimewave in my area, Berkshire. Targeting farms and anything rural. There literally no stopping them, one farmer had pulled out all the stops on security, they just cut through posts and steel doors with a Stihl saw.
Our neighbours have taken to parking an air-braked waggon on their lane at night so it is impassable. It won't help, these people stole a speedboat in another village, dragged it over two fields to get it out.
God knows where it all ends up.
Probably in the sea. Or maybe a large reservoir if there's one nearby.Our neighbours have taken to parking an air-braked waggon on their lane at night so it is impassable. It won't help, these people stole a speedboat in another village, dragged it over two fields to get it out.
God knows where it all ends up.
speedyguy said:
Breadvan72 said:
Cuts to police resources and CJS resources are an important factor. As usual, the systems are expected to operate on a budget of a quid.
This type of thinking worries me, define resources do you mean CASH 
all I see in many areas is a poor use of resources.I think this bloke is probably spot on
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nhs...
Which links to the quote below
janesmith1950 said:
Nobody wants to pay more tax, especially for the perceived prison Playstations, however you have to make a choice between feeling unsafe in your own home versus paying to get the justice system running as it ought to.
Better buy some bars for your downstairs windows and something unnatractive to drive...
There is no unending money tree, everyone has different priorities and mine is not to unnecessarily increase the tax burden on myself and others to facilitate waste and excuses.Better buy some bars for your downstairs windows and something unnatractive to drive...
janesmith1950 said:
My impression is that these kind of crimes perpetuate when the ease of offending and perceived low risk of being caught align with poor living standards and relatively lenient punishments.
Taking cars is relatively easy and low risk, your chances of being caught not too high and, if you are, the worst that can happen is fairly minor jail time, which may be more cushy than your life outside, still with easy access to druvs and the outside world.
The systematic taking of traffic Police off the road doesn't just lower the chances of being rozzered for 41mph in a 30 limit with a hair dryer, it lowers the chances of scroates being collared for actual serious offences.
Likewise, full prisons isn't due to a better justice system, it's down to a creaking prison estate that hasn't the capacity required. This leads to the courts being overly generous on second and third chances.
I think this is a good summary - crime increases when/where it appears more attractive than the alternatives...Taking cars is relatively easy and low risk, your chances of being caught not too high and, if you are, the worst that can happen is fairly minor jail time, which may be more cushy than your life outside, still with easy access to druvs and the outside world.
The systematic taking of traffic Police off the road doesn't just lower the chances of being rozzered for 41mph in a 30 limit with a hair dryer, it lowers the chances of scroates being collared for actual serious offences.
Likewise, full prisons isn't due to a better justice system, it's down to a creaking prison estate that hasn't the capacity required. This leads to the courts being overly generous on second and third chances.
Rovinghawk said:
Article said:
West Midlands Police and Crime Commissioner David Jamieson said: “Speed is one of the biggest causes of deaths on the road and one of the biggest issues that local people raise with me on a daily basis.
JHFC, not that old chestnut again!I live comparatively close to the OP, and "greater Birmingham" definitely has a big car-theft problem at the moment. It's not hit the 'shires' around B'ham much yet, presumably because (a) travel time is greater, restricting what the scrotes can do in a night and increasing exposure before they can get the stolen vehicles to somewhere 'safe'; (b) there's plenty of rich pickings on the doorstep; and (c) a young lad of Indian ethnicity knocking on your door in the 'shires' would be more unusual/noteworthy than in the Weds Mids.
Oh, and I really despair of the attitude of some posters here - much of Solihull is middle-class suburbia (some of the surrounding 'villages' are properly affluent!) - if it's a s
thole as some posters suggest (here and on prior threads) then quite frankly so is 3/4 of the UK...I live in (a nice part of) Zone 2, South London. Can't remember the last time I saw a police helicopter or had a police car come down my road with blues/twos on. I (accidentally) left the boot ajar on my BMW for 4 days - the result, a slightly flat battery and a bit of moisture on the boot carpet.
Accepted 'wisdom' suggests I should live in a crime-riddled hovel. Accepted 'wisdom' isn't all that wise.
Accepted 'wisdom' suggests I should live in a crime-riddled hovel. Accepted 'wisdom' isn't all that wise.
Doofus said:
HannsG said:
I kid you not. Birmingham, Coventry and Solihull in particular are seriously going through a crime wave.
Cars are being stolen daily.
This is fairly meaningless. In 2016, 85,000 cars were stolen across the UK. So cars being stolen 'daily' is not unique to The West Midlands.Cars are being stolen daily.
Edited to add that this estate is 10 mins country lane drive from where the OP is referring to.
Edited by arfur on Monday 9th October 14:29
Another viewpoint (non anecdotal): vehicle crime has been decreasing steadily since the early 90s:
"vehicle-related theft incidents rose steadily from 1981 before peaking at 4,293,000 in the year ending December 1993 ...following which the estimated number of incidents declined steadily over the last 2 decades to a low of 790,0002 incidents in the survey year ending March 2017, with minor year-on-year fluctuation during this period.
In the survey year ending March 2017, around 4 in 100 vehicle-owning households had been victims of vehicle-related theft. This compares with around 20 in 100 vehicle-owning households in the year ending December 1993, meaning that the likelihood of vehicle-owning households being a victim of vehicle-related theft fell by around 80% compared with 1993."
Source: ONS
"vehicle-related theft incidents rose steadily from 1981 before peaking at 4,293,000 in the year ending December 1993 ...following which the estimated number of incidents declined steadily over the last 2 decades to a low of 790,0002 incidents in the survey year ending March 2017, with minor year-on-year fluctuation during this period.
In the survey year ending March 2017, around 4 in 100 vehicle-owning households had been victims of vehicle-related theft. This compares with around 20 in 100 vehicle-owning households in the year ending December 1993, meaning that the likelihood of vehicle-owning households being a victim of vehicle-related theft fell by around 80% compared with 1993."
Source: ONS
Crime in the UK rose +10% through Mar 2017, so there is currently a re-spike in offences.
But it is worth remembering -- total crime has fallen 40-70% since the 1990s, depending on how you define it.
Britain is much safer than it used to be.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jul/20/of...
But it is worth remembering -- total crime has fallen 40-70% since the 1990s, depending on how you define it.
Britain is much safer than it used to be.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jul/20/of...
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