Is crime out of control in your area?
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Yipper said:
Crime in the UK rose +10% through Mar 2017, so there is currently a re-spike in offences.
But it is worth remembering -- total crime has fallen 40-70% since the 1990s, depending on how you define it.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jul/20/of...
HMIC audit results to date indicate that all forces recently inspected have under recorded by an average of around 15%But it is worth remembering -- total crime has fallen 40-70% since the 1990s, depending on how you define it.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jul/20/of...
It's interesting that the Commissioner blames the car manufacturers. Surely the problem is that they've made cars so difficult to steal, that people now need to burgle folk to get the keys. If anything, they've been too successful at making cars hard to steal, and in doing so the car theft genre has now changed.
Aside from people making homes harder to burgle and themselves harder to hijack and it more difficult for criminals to generally rob them, all the manufacturers could do would be to allow vehicles to be disabled remotely if stolen. This is no panacea either, not to mention expensive.
Aside from people making homes harder to burgle and themselves harder to hijack and it more difficult for criminals to generally rob them, all the manufacturers could do would be to allow vehicles to be disabled remotely if stolen. This is no panacea either, not to mention expensive.
janesmith1950 said:
It's interesting that the Commissioner blames the car manufacturers. Surely the problem is that they've made cars so difficult to steal, that people now need to burgle folk to get the keys. If anything, they've been too successful at making cars hard to steal, and in doing so the car theft genre has now changed.
Aside from people making homes harder to burgle and themselves harder to hijack and it more difficult for criminals to generally rob them, all the manufacturers could do would be to allow vehicles to be disabled remotely if stolen. This is no panacea either, not to mention expensive.
Look at how easy it is to steal a focus ST. It would take longer to steal my 1967 VW Beetle, hence why my ST has a disclock on it as the security is so pants. Aside from people making homes harder to burgle and themselves harder to hijack and it more difficult for criminals to generally rob them, all the manufacturers could do would be to allow vehicles to be disabled remotely if stolen. This is no panacea either, not to mention expensive.
havoc said:
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Oh, and I really despair of the attitude of some posters here - much of Solihull is middle-class suburbia (some of the surrounding 'villages' are properly affluent!) - if it's a s
thole as some posters suggest (here and on prior threads) then quite frankly so is 3/4 of the UK...
My use of Obi Wan Kenobi's words to describe Solihull as Mos Eisley might have carried a clue that the irony meter might need to be turned on.Oh, and I really despair of the attitude of some posters here - much of Solihull is middle-class suburbia (some of the surrounding 'villages' are properly affluent!) - if it's a s
thole as some posters suggest (here and on prior threads) then quite frankly so is 3/4 of the UK...Breadvan72 said:
havoc said:
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Oh, and I really despair of the attitude of some posters here - much of Solihull is middle-class suburbia (some of the surrounding 'villages' are properly affluent!) - if it's a sthole as some posters suggest (here and on prior threads) then quite frankly so is 3/4 of the UK...
My use of Obi Wan Kenobi's words to describe Solihull as Mos Eisley might have carried a clue that the irony meter might need to be turned on.Oh, and I really despair of the attitude of some posters here - much of Solihull is middle-class suburbia (some of the surrounding 'villages' are properly affluent!) - if it's a s
thole as some posters suggest (here and on prior threads) then quite frankly so is 3/4 of the UK...The next door Neighbours had cctv fitted last week (they haven't been done yet), and his business is booming, he's never known it to be this severe..
Breadvan72 said:
I grew up in Solihull and have always regarded it as a wretched hive of scum and villainy.
With regard to allegedly wishy washy policies on crime and punishment, there has over the last decade or more been an increase in the severity of sentences for many crimes, and prisons have been filling up. But this is an ineffective policy, as the USA shows (harsh penal system, still high crime).
Cuts to police resources and CJS resources are an important factor. As usual, the systems are expected to operate on a budget of a quid.
I grew up there too and I couldn't disagree with you more. With regard to allegedly wishy washy policies on crime and punishment, there has over the last decade or more been an increase in the severity of sentences for many crimes, and prisons have been filling up. But this is an ineffective policy, as the USA shows (harsh penal system, still high crime).
Cuts to police resources and CJS resources are an important factor. As usual, the systems are expected to operate on a budget of a quid.
Edited by Breadvan72 on Monday 9th October 09:02
I suppose Chelmsley Wood is considered Solihull though....
I am old enough to remember the Shirley Park Madmen (a gang of low level yobs), NF skinheads beating everyone* up in central Brum at night, the Birmingham Serious Crimes Squad (a squad of police who committed serious crimes), Handsworth Yardies, and other 70s grot in the West Midlands. Recently there have been gangbanger problems in parts of the inner city and plainly some of the nastiness has spread out to the urbs in rure**. I suspect that the local plod may be stretched a bit thin. In London there are 8 million people and only about 37,000 coppers. I do not know the numbers for Birmingham and its environs.
* Except my big brother who was rocky tough and chinned a skin, thus saving my butt.
** Town in the country - the motto of Solihull.
* Except my big brother who was rocky tough and chinned a skin, thus saving my butt.
** Town in the country - the motto of Solihull.
Breadvan72 said:
havoc said:
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Oh, and I really despair of the attitude of some posters here - much of Solihull is middle-class suburbia (some of the surrounding 'villages' are properly affluent!) - if it's a sthole as some posters suggest (here and on prior threads) then quite frankly so is 3/4 of the UK...
My use of Obi Wan Kenobi's words to describe Solihull as Mos Eisley might have carried a clue that the irony meter might need to be turned on.Oh, and I really despair of the attitude of some posters here - much of Solihull is middle-class suburbia (some of the surrounding 'villages' are properly affluent!) - if it's a s
thole as some posters suggest (here and on prior threads) then quite frankly so is 3/4 of the UK...Breadvan72 said:
Why not go the whole hog and invite the Taleban to take over?
So...Luton? 
Where I am you see 3-4 cop cars every day, but I suspect that isn't so much to keep us safe as to keep the 2 large sites full of nuclear warheads safe... can't have them getting swiped!
Great to deter local scrotes, (I imagine they come with guns, lots of guns), not so good if you want to tank it along the country roads
Breadvan72 said:
So armed sectarian paramilitaries are the answer? Oh, great.
Once upon a time, in this neck of the west mids /Warks, I'd have agreed with you . But a community united enough to threaten to vote out the local and county councillor /get the aid of the local MP to let the top brass in Police HQ know it won't be accepted works as well. From experience we've found that the answer to gangs terrorising the area is a gang of locals wiling to bear witness aginst this lot, and take back control of their area. But do it legally. Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff