Dangerous Dogs Act

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CoreyDog

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714 posts

90 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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Evening all,

Just had a slight issue that MAY come back to bite me in the arse.

We live in a small apartment complex (8 Apartments over 3 floors). Not secured so anyone can come and go. Very quiet though and get on well with all the neighbours.

Around an hour ago, hear banging and shouting, decided to go out to make sure everything is ok and thought I'd take our dog so could empty at same time. He is a German Shepherd X who is 95lbs. Get outside and there is a group of teenage chavs who have been 'punching walls' and throwing things about. 2 neighbours have already come out and asked them to leave, ended up in an argument with 1 of the neighbours as the other has walked away. I approach with dog under a very short lead and under complete control. Tell them to leave in two words, get a gob full and one takes a step towards me (15/16 year old covered in blood) dog takes exception to this and lunges at him growling, pulled him back immediately, he made no contact but was enough to make the lad back off, warned him not to come closer again as he may get bitten.

Bit of verbal back and forth, kept telling them in two words to leave, eventually get the message and they leave.

Now, I'm glad the dog got protective as I didn't know why this lad was covered in blood, for all I know he had a knife. However, the Dangerous Dog Act is fairly clear in fact that if someone felt intimidated by my dog, that's it, guilty, no excuse.

Now I doubt they will contact Police, but am I in the st if they do?

Cheers.

(Sorry for the length, adrenaline still coming down.)

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

108 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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You were in full control of your dog

elanfan

5,520 posts

227 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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and your dog acted in defence of you to an intimidating aggressive lunge from a violent thug. Don't worry about it.

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

12,958 posts

100 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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You had him under control, and it was self defence. I really wouldn't worry, this is not what the act is about.

And a pic of the mutt please, love a nice GSD

CoreyDog

Original Poster:

714 posts

90 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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Many thanks for the advice, has put my mind at ease. Just thought I'd read up on Dangerous Dogs Act just in case and it seems very stacked against the dog, no mention of defence, under full control etc. Just if someone is intimidated, that's it. Guilty and dog could be taken away (over my dead body!!)

As for a pic....



Crossed with a Dalmatian of all things! Rescue about 2 years ago after he was beaten by his previous owner.

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

12,958 posts

100 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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CoreyDog said:
Many thanks for the advice, has put my mind at ease. Just thought I'd read up on Dangerous Dogs Act just in case and it seems very stacked against the dog, no mention of defence, under full control etc. Just if someone is intimidated, that's it. Guilty and dog could be taken away (over my dead body!!)

As for a pic....



Crossed with a Dalmatian of all things! Rescue about 2 years ago after he was beaten by his previous owner.
What a handsome boy. Give him steak tonight for looking after his daddy!

And there's a special place in hell for people who assault animals.

turbobloke

103,956 posts

260 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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yes

That's a mighty fine dog, lovely.

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

103 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
What a handsome boy. Give him steak tonight for looking after his daddy!

And there's a special place in hell for people who assault animals.
This
What a darlin!

Piha

7,150 posts

92 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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Only one thing for it I'm afraid..........lots of treats, evening on the sofa and an extra long walk tomorrow! Lovely looking dog and done his job well by the sound of things. Keep up the good work.

juice

8,534 posts

282 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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Lovely looking dog

Agree with the sentiment about those that abuse animals, they are just low-life scum who deserve the same being done to them !

Red Devil

13,060 posts

208 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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CoreyDog said:
However, the Dangerous Dog Act is fairly clear in fact that if someone felt intimidated by my dog, that's it, guilty, no excuse.
confused: Which clause would that be?

Was the neighbour who had the altercation still present when your dog growled at the scrote?
If so, you have a potential witness if anything should come of it (which seems doubtful).

Twiglets

695 posts

168 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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It works both ways. Last February a neighbour’s dog (later found out to be a banned breed) got into out back garden and attacked me, my wife and our dog. Unfortunately our dog died after surgery a few days later and we both suffered bites on our hands, the attacking dog is still being held in kennels and hasn’t been destroyed even though it had a history of attacking other dogs and the owner freely admitted he often killed cats. The owner is being charged with owning a dangerously out of control dog, destruction of property (£7k plus inc vet fees) and owning a banned breed, the police are pretty confident she’ll be found guilty and the dog destroyed but even after the historic attacks there are no guarantees, if it get returned to the owner we’ll have no choice but to leave the area.
To me it doesn’t seem the law is against the dog, far from it in fact, the owner even requested through the police that we allowed her to have her dog back if she promised to look after it and they actually asked us!

justinio

1,152 posts

88 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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Twiglets said:
It works both ways. Last February a neighbour’s dog (later found out to be a banned breed) got into out back garden and attacked me, my wife and our dog. Unfortunately our dog died after surgery a few days later and we both suffered bites on our hands, the attacking dog is still being held in kennels and hasn’t been destroyed even though it had a history of attacking other dogs and the owner freely admitted he often killed cats. The owner is being charged with owning a dangerously out of control dog, destruction of property (£7k plus inc vet fees) and owning a banned breed, the police are pretty confident she’ll be found guilty and the dog destroyed but even after the historic attacks there are no guarantees, if it get returned to the owner we’ll have no choice but to leave the area.
To me it doesn’t seem the law is against the dog, far from it in fact, the owner even requested through the police that we allowed her to have her dog back if she promised to look after it and they actually asked us!
Sad tale.

There are no bad dogs. Only bad owners.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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OP, I think that your have a misunderstanding of the law and are worrying needlessly. What sources have you been reading?

Twiglets

695 posts

168 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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justinio said:
Sad tale.

There are no bad dogs. Only bad owners.
Completely agree, she got it off a Facebook group from a bloke who couldn’t control it, changed its name so it had no recall and let it roam free. We live in a rural lane with nice neighbours, she lives in a caravan at the back of a friend’s garden and she’s already claimed mental health issues which the court have taken into consideration so who knows what will happen.

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

12,958 posts

100 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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Twiglets said:
justinio said:
Sad tale.

There are no bad dogs. Only bad owners.
Completely agree, she got it off a Facebook group from a bloke who couldn’t control it, changed its name so it had no recall and let it roam free. We live in a rural lane with nice neighbours, she lives in a caravan at the back of a friend’s garden and she’s already claimed mental health issues which the court have taken into consideration so who knows what will happen.
Completely. To illustrate, I have never met a bad Staffie, yet the media would have you think they are the work of the devil! Every Staff I've ever met I've been tempted to steal, no sts given if they're deemed to be council.

We have a dog who could be deemed 'dangerous'. He's a Dobe x Viz. All the nuttiness (read he's a tt) of a Viz, and the energy/strength of a Dobe. Being a big lad, and hyper, some are scared of him. A 'bad' owner would let him become pack leader, and believe me when I say this, that would be a real predicament. As it is we now have a submissive dog, who knows his place, who can be controlled with just a glare.

The owner of the dog you mention is obviously no animal lover, with admissions of cat kills by the dog. It is such a shame, it is the dogs who pay the ultimate price, for what is tantamount to human neglect.

To all you brilliant dog owners, including the OP, respect much.

Eddieslofart

1,328 posts

83 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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justinio said:
Sad tale.

There are no bad dogs. Only bad owners.
Never a truer word spoken.

Trouble is, once the dog has been contaminated by it’s first chav owner, it’s a difficult dog to trust.

I had the unfortunate pleasure of visiting a site in Gravesham last week, while there, saw a scumtard kick his dog for absolutely no other reason than to impress his scumtard mates.

Rightly or wrongly, i shoved a size 9 steel toecap up his arse, and i do mean shoved, animal cruelty sets me off alarming.

There were more incidents, but when the police finally appeared (called by aching arses mates) They fell on our side.

The dog? Just sat there shaking, and that gutted me.

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

12,958 posts

100 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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Eddieslofart said:
justinio said:
Sad tale.

There are no bad dogs. Only bad owners.
The dog? Just sat there shaking, and that gutted me.
There is little sadder. An ex had a lovely dog, who had been beaten by his old owners. The ex owner was Asian, and as such whenever Jet (his name) saw someone of such a skin tone he would freeze, and shake. It broke my heart. I am not a violent man, but I would unleash serious violence on someone hurting an animal willingly.

InitialDave

11,902 posts

119 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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justinio said:
There are no bad dogs. Only bad owners.
yes

I like dogs an awful lot more than a lot of the bipedal meatbags masquerading as people out there.

Eddieslofart

1,328 posts

83 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
There is little sadder. An ex had a lovely dog, who had been beaten by his old owners. The ex owner was Asian, and as such whenever Jet (his name) saw someone of such a skin tone he would freeze, and shake. It broke my heart. I am not a violent man, but I would unleash serious violence on someone hurting an animal willingly.
Completely understand. I was at the local dogs trust place last week, good job the Mrs was with me, or i would of come home with all of the residents!