Malicious email / police involved
Discussion
Breadvan72 said:
Also I would hope that all recruits to police forces are people who want to make a difference.
Most police officers whom I have had much to do with are dedicated public servants who care about reducing crime and making life better for non criminals, but it is easy for glib tabloid readers to depict all coppers as lazy, venal, stupid, pro-criminal, politically correct, etc. The same applies for most Judges, prison governors and so on.
Don't forget you lot chasing ambulances. Most police officers whom I have had much to do with are dedicated public servants who care about reducing crime and making life better for non criminals, but it is easy for glib tabloid readers to depict all coppers as lazy, venal, stupid, pro-criminal, politically correct, etc. The same applies for most Judges, prison governors and so on.
I think nearly all join motivated by idealism. It sadly gets chipped away given most police work is rubbish and not related to crime.
La Liga said:
Breadvan72 said:
Also I would hope that all recruits to police forces are people who want to make a difference.
Most police officers whom I have had much to do with are dedicated public servants who care about reducing crime and making life better for non criminals, but it is easy for glib tabloid readers to depict all coppers as lazy, venal, stupid, pro-criminal, politically correct, etc. The same applies for most Judges, prison governors and so on.
Don't forget you lot chasing ambulances. Most police officers whom I have had much to do with are dedicated public servants who care about reducing crime and making life better for non criminals, but it is easy for glib tabloid readers to depict all coppers as lazy, venal, stupid, pro-criminal, politically correct, etc. The same applies for most Judges, prison governors and so on.
I think nearly all join motivated by idealism. It sadly gets chipped away given most police work is rubbish and not related to crime.
He never just wantdd to let him know. He done what all friemds do, and take the p. Id have done the same. Most likely a link to the famous site though. No way would it cross my mind I could be charged. Although id also have asked, is that your sister?
By 16 id have seen nearly every video on that site, so its amazing the friemd hasnt seen it already. I had to deal with littlewoods magazine, underwear section. Kids have it good.
By 16 id have seen nearly every video on that site, so its amazing the friemd hasnt seen it already. I had to deal with littlewoods magazine, underwear section. Kids have it good.
Douglas Quaid said:
OP please learn the difference between ‘of’ and ‘have’. I have been trying to read it but all of the ‘should of’ and ‘could of’ makes your posts unreadable for me. It’s could HAVE for Pete’s sake, not could of. That isn’t English and doesn’t make sense.
Thankyou.
Ab-so-fThankyou.
king-lutely 
Takes a bit of understanding - however it appear an offence depends on intent to cause some type of distress! In which case the son must prove the act was not intent within the context, this may be difficult because the son used anonymity instead of openness and honest.
The friend has reacted to the fact that the communication was anonymous which is not in itself abnormal. Perhaps if he knew the origin of the communication they might still be friends.
The friend must have concluded the send was maliciously even after finding out who the sender was.
Is an exchange of porn a historic type of communication? That is about the only defence that would have or could support a mitigation!
While the son is claiming it was all done innocently his activity does not support innocence. I think as a father I would be looking more at the friends relationship with each other? A "friend" is very unlikely to want to press charges if he believed the act was in "friendship". The son must know why his mate is doing this, I am thinking is it payback time!
The friend has reacted to the fact that the communication was anonymous which is not in itself abnormal. Perhaps if he knew the origin of the communication they might still be friends.
The friend must have concluded the send was maliciously even after finding out who the sender was.
Is an exchange of porn a historic type of communication? That is about the only defence that would have or could support a mitigation!
While the son is claiming it was all done innocently his activity does not support innocence. I think as a father I would be looking more at the friends relationship with each other? A "friend" is very unlikely to want to press charges if he believed the act was in "friendship". The son must know why his mate is doing this, I am thinking is it payback time!
hijimhere said:
Takes a bit of understanding - however it appear an offence depends on intent to cause some type of distress! In which case the son must prove the act was not intent within the context, this may be difficult because the son used anonymity instead of openness and honest....
Sigh. For the millionth time on a criminal law thread on PH, the accused must prove NOTHING. Save in some rare cases, this not being one, the burden of proof in a criminal case is on the prosecution.
Jonno02 said:
You absolutely can. Any form of connection, even something like Xbox voice chat you can get an IP from a packet sniffer allowing you to look up somebodies home address yourself. Only real way to avoid it is a proxy service.
You can probably get an IP address. You can't get A physical house location (other than the exchange where it breaks out for the "last mile") without access to the providers billing systems?
hijimhere said:
Takes a bit of understanding - however it appear an offence depends on intent to cause some type of distress! In which case the son must prove the act was not intent within the context, this may be difficult because the son used anonymity instead of openness and honest.
The friend has reacted to the fact that the communication was anonymous which is not in itself abnormal. Perhaps if he knew the origin of the communication they might still be friends.
The friend must have concluded the send was maliciously even after finding out who the sender was.
Is an exchange of porn a historic type of communication? That is about the only defence that would have or could support a mitigation!
While the son is claiming it was all done innocently his activity does not support innocence. I think as a father I would be looking more at the friends relationship with each other? A "friend" is very unlikely to want to press charges if he believed the act was in "friendship". The son must know why his mate is doing this, I am thinking is it payback time!
Were you a speech writer in the DDR?The friend has reacted to the fact that the communication was anonymous which is not in itself abnormal. Perhaps if he knew the origin of the communication they might still be friends.
The friend must have concluded the send was maliciously even after finding out who the sender was.
Is an exchange of porn a historic type of communication? That is about the only defence that would have or could support a mitigation!
While the son is claiming it was all done innocently his activity does not support innocence. I think as a father I would be looking more at the friends relationship with each other? A "friend" is very unlikely to want to press charges if he believed the act was in "friendship". The son must know why his mate is doing this, I am thinking is it payback time!
mike-v2tmf said:
9 pages and no link to the vdeo ? 
What if I promise not to be offended ?
I asked that 5 pages back and drew a blank. What if I promise not to be offended ?IP will give a rough location but any police force can get an exact address from an IP when they get in touch with the ISP. The ISP has to provide the information to law enforcement.
My son has called the police station several times now to ascertain when he can have his mobile phone back but the officer he was dealing with said his manager hasn't had time to call the chap who made the complaint. Is there a time limit as to how long a case should go on for until it can be closed and property returned? He / We do not feel the police are stalling, more likely they have bigger things to be dealing with. When he called last week the officer got a little shirty with him and said to no need to keep calling me, when I know something il call you.
Breadvan72 said:
FFS, this is a real life criminal law issue and you are seeking advice on an internet car forum. GET A LAWYER. I can recommend you some. Seriously, take this seriously.
This.The police are not trying to 'help' your son.
He needs to get a lawyer, give the details of the officer/case to them, and to not speak to them again without legal representation.
A different scenario, but not a zillion miles away from the thread subject -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-41...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-41...
BBC said:
The Home Office is an interested party in the proceedings. Its position is understood to be that although police have to record such incidents, it is at their discretion whether they include the name of the person.
Bigends will probably know the answer to this, but I expect it isn't discretionary. Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff