Malicious email / police involved

Malicious email / police involved

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Sa Calobra

37,211 posts

212 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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garyhun said:
Sa Calobra said:
The person who you punch may call the Police.
They may indeed. I’m 55 so maybe it’s a generation thing, but in my yoof there was no crying to the police. If you deserved a punch, you got a punch and that was the end of it.
He only found out who it was from after Police traced the email. His 'mate' would have been laughing behind his back.

Thankfully now Police detection techniques of today avoid your era.

OddCat

2,567 posts

172 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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Shoot the messenger. Always a good strategy. Does a smashing job of drawing attention away from the actual issue.

Meanwhile, 115,000 cars a year get stolen and fewer than half are recovered.

We have sufficient police. The issue is that too many of them are pi$$ing around on cases like this.....

Greendubber

13,234 posts

204 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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OddCat said:
Shoot the messenger. Always a good strategy. Does a smashing job of drawing attention away from the actual issue.

Meanwhile, 115,000 cars a year get stolen and fewer than half are recovered.

We have sufficient police. The issue is that too many of them are pi$$ing around on cases like this.....
No, the real issue is cars that are super easy to nick.

Sa Calobra

37,211 posts

212 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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OddCat said:
Shoot the messenger. Always a good strategy. Does a smashing job of drawing attention away from the actual issue.

Meanwhile, 115,000 cars a year get stolen and fewer than half are recovered.

We have sufficient police. The issue is that too many of them are pi$$ing around on cases like this.....
Are you serious?

Don't leave your keys in the ignition
If you are worried about keyless car theft TAKE PRECAUTIONS. Buy a steering wheel lock etc. Take ownership of protecting your property.

Are you willing to pay more for more Police officers?

Cases like this are important. If this happened to me I'd consider it more important than someone nicking a car left running on someone's drive whilst it defrosted.

Locally at a notoriously dangerous three lane each direction traffic light junction the council have changed the traffic light camera to a speed camera as people were going through at crazy speeds with other direction traffic often turning across.

Guess what? On local Facebook group people caught are claiming it's a scam and a tax yet daily you see RTCs there. Police have better things to do than victimise innocent motorists.

dave7108

Original Poster:

188 posts

155 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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ging84 said:
Now the whole thing is over, and presumably you heard the evidence from both sides in court can you fill in some of the blanks?
What was the evidence against him?
Evidence against him was it made him feel distressed. There was nothing else I have not talked about on here.

to sum up for anyone who doesnt want to go through 20 odd pages

Girl in to camming. Punter uploads video on to well known website.
Few months later random person in the group of friends comes across it.
Lads have a good laugh about it
My son gets told about it but to NOT tell the brother of said camming girl
He tells him but doesnt want to get directly involved so sets fake email up. and sends image as proof. Hoping the brother contacts the group of lads involved and gets it taken off site.
Brother gets email tells his mother about it. They both go to police.
Police knock on our door tracked IP
Court...
Witness statements read out saying they both felt distressed at seeing image
Prosecution say my son did it for malice, Defence say this is not true and he could not of told him without offending him.
Magistrate sums up that this is low level crime. £400 fine £40 victim compo

Davos123

5,966 posts

213 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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Was the not guilty plea on the advice of his solicitor?

dave7108

Original Poster:

188 posts

155 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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^ yes

as he sent it but not malicious

Davos123

5,966 posts

213 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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clearly the evidence suggests it was sent maliciously though. Seems like dumb advice, lucky with the sentence.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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anonymous said:
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Aww diddums.

jdw100

4,137 posts

165 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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anonymous said:
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That’s a fair point....didn’t think about that.

poo at Paul's

14,174 posts

176 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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Sa Calobra said:
Cases like this are important.
No, they're not.
They're a huge lump of old hairy bks.

jlee

167 posts

90 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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I dont see what anyone has gained from this. A small fine for the perp and raking it all up for the girl involved. Any chances are more people will know about it now.

If it was my sister id of gone round had a word, found out the facts, swung a punch if need be. Getting the police is just ludicrous. If you get in to camming then high chance people will video it and upload it.

joshcowin

6,815 posts

177 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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Why is everyone so punchy!? You cant go around punching people now, just like you cant smack kids or be racist! What used to be acceptable isn't anymore!

Davos123

5,966 posts

213 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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jlee said:
I dont see what anyone has gained from this. A small fine for the perp and raking it all up for the girl involved. Any chances are more people will know about it now.

If it was my sister id of gone round had a word, found out the facts, swung a punch if need be. Getting the police is just ludicrous. If you get in to camming then high chance people will video it and upload it.
Gone round where for a word?

Vaud

50,687 posts

156 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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jlee said:
If it was my sister id of gone round had a word, found out the facts, swung a punch if need be. G
How are you going to find the address/sender from an anonymous email?

jlee

167 posts

90 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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jlee

167 posts

90 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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It sounds like the lad who received it knew who this bunch of lads were. So id be going round and 'avin a word' and generally acting tough. If it kicked off id then call the police.

MB140

4,092 posts

104 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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poo at Paul's said:
Sa Calobra said:
Cases like this are important.
No, they're not.
They're a huge lump of old hairy bks.
About as important as the recent one where the guy taught his girlfriends dog to walk like a Nazi solider.

Video ends up on line. Some Jewish association kicks up a might stink resulting in prosecution and court.

Bloke found guilty. Judge sees it for what it is and gives him a tiny fine (almost like the police and the courts just want it done with and to go away quietly). He appeals the conviction and raises a fortune for legal expenses through crowd funding. This must have cost the tax payer a bloody fortune to prosecute and then go through appeals all because some bloke taught his dog to walk funny.

It’s not in the public interest and neither was this.

Just my opinion of course. Everyone’s entitled to one.

Fore Left

1,422 posts

183 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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Vaud said:
jlee said:
If it was my sister id of gone round had a word, found out the facts, swung a punch if need be. G
How are you going to find the address/sender from an anonymous email?
From the IP address of the sender which will be in the email header.

The real lesson here is that despite the apparent anonymity of the Internet everyone is ultimately traceable. If you want to do something anonymously you need to take many steps to hide your identity. At a basic level either download Tor or use an anonymous email provider (probably both).

BlueHave

4,660 posts

109 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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Honestly what a waste of police resources that was.

The girl frigged herself on cam and her brother ran to the police because he was made aware of it.

Perhaps now the plod can use the £400 to retrospectively investigate all the other more serious crimes that occurred while a whole team built this case.





Edited by BlueHave on Tuesday 16th April 00:06