Dangerous Dog Next Door!

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Marky Mark88

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694 posts

201 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Hello,



I'm not sure if this post is in the correct section so Mods please feel free to move if necessary!



We bought our first home (a semi-detached property) in July 2015. We met our neighbour on the first day we moved in and she seemed pleasant enough, if a little bit 'crazy.' We believe she owns 3 dogs, 2 of what we thought were large Staffordshire Bull Terriers and one smaller Yorkshire Terrier type dog. She has always had problems with the 2 'Staffys' escaping from her garden where they manage to jump the fence. Recently they have not managed to get out so much as she has 'extended' the fence on her side of the property with bits of plywood and trellis etc. However last Thursday one of the 'Staffys' jumped over the 6ft fence dividing our back gardens and got into our back garden. A friend of ours was doing work on our house and our dog was in the garden, but luckily he got him in and she came round and collected her dog and took it back. Obviously this was a huge concern for us as we really don't like the 2 'Staffys.' My wife witnessed them tear a cat apart that went into her back garden and the owner herself has also been attacked by them previously.



Fast-forward to lastnight and my wife goes round to speak to her about how the dog got over the fence. Apparently there is a large concrete bench on her side that the 'Staffy' got onto and then jumped over. It was at this point that our neighbour admitted she was worried also, as her 'certificate' states that if the dog escapes then it will be put down. To me that can only mean one thing, that it's a Pit Bull Terrier. Not long after we moved in we did see the police take at least one of the dogs away and my neighbour has mentioned before that they had been 'tested.' We assumed that they had been identified as a breed that isn't banned in the UK and thought no more of it.



What options do we have here? The dogs never get walked and the owner did spend some time in a psychiatric unit about 12 months ago. To me she isn't mentally fit to own a dog of this nature. I also believe the property is Housing Association so surely they would have something to say about this? We don't want to fall out with our neighbour as it will make things awkward, but she is genuinely oblivious to the potential timebomb that she has running around (and escaping from) her garden.



For us it's probably a case of the dog goes or we go, we are looking to start a family and we would never feel safe raising a family with an unsecured banned dog living next door.



Many thanks for any advice anyone can give.



Cheers!

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

123 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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frozen poisoned sausages in the lawn.

never has the adage been so apt.

robinessex

11,058 posts

181 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Shot Gun

Greendubber

13,206 posts

203 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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The police will have a DLO (Dog Liaison Officer) so email your local force asking for advice and telling them what's happened. If it is a certificated 'banned breed' then they will already be aware of her and her dogs.

Ask for the DLO to make contact with you.

red_slr

17,234 posts

189 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Difficult one. You speak up you might get your windows put through, or worse. Depends if she is a nut job / family of nut jobs I guess. (sounds like it!)
You keep quiet and the dog gets out and kills someone you will feel pretty bad.
Might be worth giving it a few months and putting it in as intel to crime stoppers.
Or speak to a local and ask for a 5x5x5 and get them to put a handling code on it due to her being MN and fear of reprisals.

Cold

15,247 posts

90 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Adopt the dog. Walk it, feed it properly, train it = Happy, healthy dog.

alorotom

11,939 posts

187 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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red_slr said:
Or speak to a local and ask for a 5x5x5 and get them to put a handling code on it due to her being MN and fear of reprisals.
in english?

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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alorotom said:
red_slr said:
Or speak to a local and ask for a 5x5x5 and get them to put a handling code on it due to her being MN and fear of reprisals.
in english?
Or speak to a local policeman and ask them to complete a 5x5x5x5 form

http://library.college.police.uk/docs/APPref/how-t...

Ask them to put a handling code on it so it gets looked at promptly on the basis that their are fear of reprisals by the woman or her family or friends and that the woman has a mental issue which has been documented before

Uncle John

4,284 posts

191 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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If it is actually a Pit Bull the dog will be removed. Hard to prove as the test is done on head size, height and can and will actually get it wrong many times which can be sad.

However, any dog can be dangerous in the wrong environment and with next to no discipline. As you say your neighbour seems unfit in herself you must get in touch with your local council dog person and raise your concerns.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Uncle John said:
If it is actually a Pit Bull the dog will be removed. Hard to prove as the test is done on head size, height and can and will actually get it wrong many times which can be sad.

However, any dog can be dangerous in the wrong environment and with next to no discipline. As you say your neighbour seems unfit in herself you must get in touch with your local council dog person and raise your concerns.
Agreed
The OP seems a genuine guy with real concerns. Whilst he cant be responsible for others actions I suspect if the dog got out and then savaged a local child he would feel crap for not having done anything.
That isn't me being morally superior its just my feelings after looking what he wrote and the expressions used. he seems a decent genuine guy.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,356 posts

150 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Cold said:
Adopt the dog. Walk it, feed it properly, train it = Happy, healthy dog.
With an inherent propensity for violence bred into it over many generations. No amount of cuddles will alter its DNA.

pseudonym

52 posts

89 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
With an inherent propensity for violence bred into it over many generations. No amount of cuddles will alter its DNA.
What's given you the impression it's had violence bred into it over many generations? Don't be rediculous.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Cold said:
Adopt the dog. Walk it, feed it properly, train it = Happy, healthy dog.
No. Cos the internet said SBT are all dangerous and would kill you while you sleep.

HappyMidget

6,788 posts

115 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
With an inherent propensity for violence bred into it over many generations. No amount of cuddles will alter its DNA.
Complete and utter bks.


OP: Is the dog actually dangerous or are you just typing it based on your misconceptions due to breed? Do they actually show any sign of aggressiveness? I am guessing not if they have been exempted. Yes, the fence jumping needs to be sorted out, but do not assume they are dangerous.

LordHaveMurci

12,043 posts

169 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Cold said:
Adopt the dog. Walk it, feed it properly, train it = Happy, healthy dog.
With an inherent propensity for violence bred into it over many generations. No amount of cuddles will alter its DNA.
Probably the daftest response this thread will see (hopefully anyway).

Carrot

7,294 posts

202 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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xjay1337 said:
Cold said:
Adopt the dog. Walk it, feed it properly, train it = Happy, healthy dog.
No. Cos the internet said SBT are all dangerous and would kill you while you sleep.
Whilst I do get the sentiment here, you don't really hear that many stories of people being mauled to death by a cockapoo now do you...

LordHaveMurci

12,043 posts

169 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Carrot said:
Whilst I do get the sentiment here, you don't really hear that many stories of people being mauled to death by a cockapoo now do you...
Cockapoo is probably more likely to bite, The Daily Wail is far less likely to publish the story though.

I don't own a Staffie by the way, no desire to either.

Marky Mark88

Original Poster:

694 posts

201 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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HappyMidget said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
With an inherent propensity for violence bred into it over many generations. No amount of cuddles will alter its DNA.
Complete and utter bks.


OP: Is the dog actually dangerous or are you just typing it based on your misconceptions due to breed? Do they actually show any sign of aggressiveness? I am guessing not if they have been exempted. Yes, the fence jumping needs to be sorted out, but do not assume they are dangerous.
As said in the original post, my wife has seen the 2 of them rip a cat apart and one of them (not sure which) has attacked the owner when she tried to get them back from the garden that backs onto hers. In fairness, my friend said that when this dog and mine were together in our garden there was no aggression, but they weren't together very long. For me if a dog can attack its owner then it can attack anyone, I wouldn't trust it, especially when they are together as a pair and there's a 'pack mentality.' Our poor Labrador wouldn't stand a chance.

justinio

1,152 posts

88 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Assert dominance.

Bum the terrier in front of the staffies. Let them see who is boss.

TonyToniTone

3,425 posts

249 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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LordHaveMurci said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Cold said:
Adopt the dog. Walk it, feed it properly, train it = Happy, healthy dog.
With an inherent propensity for violence bred into it over many generations. No amount of cuddles will alter its DNA.
Probably the daftest response this thread will see (hopefully anyway).
I know, as if you would adopt a dangerous dog from a lunatic neighbour.