Removing my front parking sensor this weekend

[Hol]

Breadvan72 said:

220s plenty said:

HantsRat said:

It's a very serious offence.

I couldn't have any less respect for police if I tried.

PS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo

Edited by 220s plenty on Wednesday 8th November 00:54

Shall we have a whip round and buy 220 a fk the Police T shirt for his next lonely birthday?

To be fair, I feel the same as he does, but my own prejudice is about women beaters and other similar violent criminals.

I do own a T-Shirt with a picture of a speed camera sign and the words bds written beneath it though.

[HantsRat]

croyde said:

How about fighting some real crime. Too scared to chase knife wielding scooter riders.

How about actually driving your car and van and catching the really dangerous drivers that are a real menace but come under the radar as they are not speeding.

The phone users, tail haters, aggressive drivers, MLMS etc

Oh I forgot. Not easy pickings and they don't fill the coffers. Actually involves work.

It's fekin anarchy on the roads these days, I see it week in and week out, but you just stay nice and snug in your van and point your little ray gun.

Boils my fekin p155.

Ok I'll bite.

Luckily down south we don't get ant 'knife welding scooter drivers' We do get lots of stolen mopeds though. Quite often have pursuits with them and catch them too giving the bike back to the rightful owner.

Every day I drive my car and 'catch' tailgating, middle lane hogging, phone users, dangerous/careless driving. Mondays shift was 4 x mobile phone, 2 x careless/inconsiderate driving (middle lane hogging) and 3 x red light jumping.

As well as dealing with those offences, yes I also park up with Lidar gun for speed enforcement.

Instead of ranting and raving about how police are only out conducting speed enforcement, why don't you contact your local force and go out on an observation shift and actually see what goes on day to day. I also see you recently fell foul of a local community speed watch group at 39 in a 30 back in July and received speeding points last month. Maybe this explains your anger against speed enforcement?

Unless the government remove speed limits, we will also be out there enforcing them.... It's our job you know.

[cmaguire]

HantsRat said:

Ok I'll bite.

Luckily down south we don't get ant 'knife welding scooter drivers' We do get lots of stolen mopeds though. Quite often have pursuits with them and catch them too giving the bike back to the rightful owner.

Every day I drive my car and 'catch' tailgating, middle lane hogging, phone users, dangerous/careless driving. Mondays shift was 4 x mobile phone, 2 x careless/inconsiderate driving (middle lane hogging) and 3 x red light jumping.

As well as dealing with those offences, yes I also park up with Lidar gun for speed enforcement.

Instead of ranting and raving about how police are only out conducting speed enforcement, why don't you contact your local force and go out on an observation shift and actually see what goes on day to day. I also see you recently fell foul of a local community speed watch group at 39 in a 30 back in July and received speeding points last month. Maybe this explains your anger against speed enforcement?

Unless the government remove speed limits, we will also be out there enforcing them.... It's our job you know.

The Police are catching the fallout from the SCPs.
They rub a lot of people up the wrong way. And ought to,

[Fish]

Just as a thought and I don't know which way this will go. Why is it PCOJ I assume for preventing an officer carrying out his/her duties..

Why is that any different from a burglar spray painting a CCTV camera so they cannot be identified? Again interfering with optical recording equipment and in both cases they maybe able to prosecute from another source.. ie. reverse speed calc or fingerprints etc.

PCOJ is a bigger offence than burglary as it is to speeding?

I wasn't aware there is a specific law on using a radar/laser jammer?

[anonymous-user]

AW111 said:

Breadvan72 said:

Shall we have a whip round and buy 220 a fk the Police T shirt for his next lonely birthday?

It's fk Da Police!
This is just another example of how the legal profession is out of touch with today's youth.

I R totez busted LULZ

[anonymous-user]

Dr Mike Oxgreen said:

Flooble said:

Breadvan72 said:

I must be missing all this war on motorists stuff. I drive about all over the place, quite often faster than the posted limits (not in urban areas). Every few years I get a speeding ticket. Is that a bullet or a medal in this exciting war?

Depends which car you were in ... exceeding the limit in some of them would definitely be worth commemorating

I avoid the issue by driving a TVR.

Officially it does 0-60 in 4.7 seconds, but will either break down or run out of fuel in 4.6 seconds.

V sound policy.

Talk of how quickly a car could get you busted reminds me of the good old days of car advertising. (The ad cites the 0-70 figure, BTW, 0-60 was claimed to be 9.1)

[agtlaw]

Breadvan72 said:

Talk of how quickly a car could get you busted reminds me of the good old days of car advertising. (The ad cites the 0-70 figure, BTW, 0-60 was claimed to be 9.1)

If published today then that advert would very likely offend against the ludicrous ASA rules on the promotion of speed.

[cptsideways]

Many of the Autonomous braking systems use laser systems on 904nm frequency (Same as all the Laser guns) I know of some that have confused/blanked/confused the gun readings.

Have any of you plod noticed them when out zapping? Though windscreen mounted as opposed to number plate region.


https://www.continental-automotive.com/en-gl/Passe...

[220s plenty]

HantsRat said:

Every day I drive my car and 'catch' tailgating, middle lane hogging, phone users, dangerous/careless driving. Mondays shift was 4 x mobile phone, 2 x careless/inconsiderate driving (middle lane hogging) and 3 x red light jumping.

From my point of view you've just penalised nine individuals making significant contributions to society for very minor infractions - infractions which, 99.99% of the time are completely inert. You've subjected your employers to significant financial and social implications without due care. Undoubtedly individuals working overly stressful jobs which is why they jumped a red phase by 0.5 seconds.

That equates to performing *grossly* immoral work.

[HantsRat]

220s plenty said:

From my point of view you've just penalised nine individuals making significant contributions to society for very minor infractions - infractions which, 99.99% of the time are completely inert. You've subjected your employers to significant financial and social implications without due care. Undoubtedly individuals working overly stressful jobs which is why they jumped a red phase by 0.5 seconds.

That equates to performing *grossly* immoral work.

Oh well. It's the law and its the job of traffic police to enforce that law. If an educational course is deemed appropriate they will be offered that.

I don't think you will ever agree with traffic law so I can only advice to write to your MP if you wish for the law to be changed.

[anonymous-user]

agtlaw said:

Breadvan72 said:

Talk of how quickly a car could get you busted reminds me of the good old days of car advertising. (The ad cites the 0-70 figure, BTW, 0-60 was claimed to be 9.1)

If published today then that advert would very likely offend against the ludicrous ASA rules on the promotion of speed.

Saab got done by the ASA for showing a 900 Turbo getting airborne, IIRC.

[_dobbo_]

220s plenty said:

HantsRat said:

Every day I drive my car and 'catch' tailgating, middle lane hogging, phone users, dangerous/careless driving. Mondays shift was 4 x mobile phone, 2 x careless/inconsiderate driving (middle lane hogging) and 3 x red light jumping.

From my point of view you've just penalised nine individuals making significant contributions to society for very minor infractions

Fortunately your point of view is worthless. How could you possibly know what contributions any of those people were making to society FFS?

By the way there is a thread on here about a highway officer who was killed and another paralysed by someone who had been using their phone whilst driving. Minor infraction my arse.

Take your blinkers off for one second the world will be an easier place to live in.

[anonymous-user]

220s plenty said:

HantsRat said:

Every day I drive my car and 'catch' tailgating, middle lane hogging, phone users, dangerous/careless driving. Mondays shift was 4 x mobile phone, 2 x careless/inconsiderate driving (middle lane hogging) and 3 x red light jumping.

From my point of view you've just penalised nine individuals making significant contributions to society for very minor infractions - infractions which, 99.99% of the time are completely inert. You've subjected your employers to significant financial and social implications without due care. Undoubtedly individuals working overly stressful jobs which is why they jumped a red phase by 0.5 seconds.

That equates to performing *grossly* immoral work.

Leaving aside how you know whether the people Hants stopped were useful members of society, whether they have stressful jobs, and so on, Hants did nothing without due care. He acted deliberately to enforce various rules which are based on road safety, that being part of his job. You seem from posts on various subjects to have a problem with the concept of society and of rules. You could try living in a shack in Montana with a gun and lots of canned goods, or you could try living in a busy developed country where rules exist to allow people to get along, stay safe, and so on.

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 8th November 15:51

[220s plenty]

_dobbo_ said:

Fortunately your point of view is worthless. How could you possibly know what contributions any of those people were making to society FFS?

By the way there is a thread on here about a highway officer who was killed and another paralysed by someone who had been using their phone whilst driving. Minor infraction my arse.

Take your blinkers off for one second the world will be an easier place to live in.

Prime example of a police officers response - poor, sloppy and void of thought - a clear correlation with their work.

[_dobbo_]

220s plenty said:

Prime example of a police officers response - poor, sloppy and void of thought - a clear correlation with their work.

wow you got me, words can hurt you know.

You might want to check in your cry for help "opt out" thread by the way - some people genuinely trying to help you there, but you're too busy bashing the police to notice.

[Farmer21]

220s plenty said:

_dobbo_ said:

Fortunately your point of view is worthless. How could you possibly know what contributions any of those people were making to society FFS?

By the way there is a thread on here about a highway officer who was killed and another paralysed by someone who had been using their phone whilst driving. Minor infraction my arse.

Take your blinkers off for one second the world will be an easier place to live in.

Prime example of a police officers response - poor, sloppy and void of thought - a clear correlation with their work.

You remind me of a Spike Milligan reply to an interviewer when he asked Spike what he thought of Hitler.

"Hitler! He was a complete twit...T.W.I.T....pronounced CU*T!"

There you go. I suppose you were badly treated as a child too. Grow-up man.

[HantsRat]

220s plenty - Are you a 'Freeman of the land'?

[RedBox]

cptsideways said:

Many of the Autonomous braking systems use laser systems on 904nm frequency (Same as all the Laser guns) I know of some that have confused/blanked/confused the gun readings.

Have any of you plod noticed them when out zapping? Though windscreen mounted as opposed to number plate region.


https://www.continental-automotive.com/en-gl/Passe...

That device is not likely to interfere with police laser sysmens at all. While its pulse repetition frequency is the same as one police laser I know of it isn't the same as the majority of them.
Unless there is a coincidental synchronisation betwen it and the police laser then it won't interfere. Also the transmit power is not likely to be such that it operates out to large ranges that are likely to exist between it and a police officer with a laser speedmeter, so even if it was synchronised it wouldn't be likely to interfere.
What particular instances have you seen where similar devices have caused a definate interference with a police laser and how would you know of that?

[jm doc]

Farmer21 said:

jm doc said:

They are also used as parking sensors. They are completely legal to buy and operate as such. I suppose you could also use them to maintain a specific distance to a car in front of you as some vehicles already have fitted as standard. And as far as I'm aware it is not possible to prove that they actually jammed a laser speed detector, and even then the prosecution would have to prove intent. I'm not sure how they would do that unless you had a purchase request in your car, headed "please supply me with a laser jammer"

I must add that my car has standard fitted parking sensors and would have no need of a laser parking sensor. Fitting one under these circumstances would not be appropriate in the current climate

The prosecution proved both to a jury of 12.

I have no idea what evidence was used to prove that a laser gun was jammed in this case. I repeat, as far as I am aware it is not possible to prove a laser speed gun has been jammed. It may receive an error message but there are other ways this can happen which are common as I understand. I am happy to be corrected on this if things have changed. Perhaps you could enlighten me?

[jm doc]

swerni said:

jm doc said:

HantsRat said:

jm doc said:

Yes, really. And massively increasing speed limit enforcement but denying it ("an end to the war on motorists") whilst at the same time imposing huge reductions in speed limits on roads all round the country with no warning or significant consultation. What do you call that then? Perverting the course of justice??

It's certainly a perversion of the concept of law and order, and justice, in the view of many people that I get to meet and talk to.

That's really an argument you need to put across to your MP to lobby in parliament. I'm talking about the law on fitting laser jammers here not speed enforcement or speed limits.

People feel threatened, what do you think some of them are going to do?? It is a problem that is significantly exacerbated by the escalation of the war on motorists, people feel the need to protect themselves from what they see as an abuse of power, and in my experience, sadly they blame the police. PCOJ in the context of speeding has always been highly dubious, and in context of breaking a traffic regulation which has very little bearing on the "justice system" it should never be used. And after all there are many other ways to catch motorists speeding.

How do we feel threatened?
It’s a speed limit, how is that even remotely threatening ?

I understand you don't get it and just accept being told what to do and told that it's in your best interest etc, and never think to question. Lots of other people do get it though and are angry. I include in this lots of elderly people as well as otherwise completely law abiding citizens who I meet and talk to on a daily basis.