£10k BILL IS THIS FRAUD

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mikeveal

4,573 posts

250 months

Thursday 11th February 2021
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turbo9111 said:
This just in,
The sellers have offered through there solicitor to repay the debt to us at £1000 per month with the first instalment paid immediately, Decision time .....
Congratulations!
Unless the vendors offer was made without prejudice your solicitors will now argue that they are completely off the hook. You'll get a month, maybe two and the vendor will stop paying.

What you need to do immediately:
Ask your solicitor if the vendor has admitted full liability for the 10K. Or if the offer was made without admitting liability.
Then, regardless of the Solicitors answer, you tell them that you will be claiming directly from them (your solicitor). And go and find a better solicitor.

What I expect you will do:
Continue to believe that what your solicitor is telling you is in your best interest, as opposed to being in your solicitors best interest.


I don't get it OP. You are being told unanimously that your solicitor is pulling a fast one on you and you're doing impression of the see/hear/speak no evil monkeys. It's like watching a lamb being led to the slaughter. I mean no offence, but FFS wake up and at least get a qualified second opinion. Either the loyalty you're showing to your solicitor is not being returned, or they are incompetent.

blueg33

35,910 posts

224 months

Thursday 11th February 2021
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mikeveal said:
turbo9111 said:
This just in,
The sellers have offered through there solicitor to repay the debt to us at £1000 per month with the first instalment paid immediately, Decision time .....
Congratulations!
Unless the vendors offer was made without prejudice your solicitors will now argue that they are completely off the hook. You'll get a month, maybe two and the vendor will stop paying.

What you need to do immediately:
Ask your solicitor if the vendor has admitted full liability for the 10K. Or if the offer was made without admitting liability.
Then, regardless of the Solicitors answer, you tell them that you will be claiming directly from them (your solicitor). And go and find a better solicitor.

What I expect you will do:
Continue to believe that what your solicitor is telling you is in your best interest, as opposed to being in your solicitors best interest.


I don't get it OP. You are being told unanimously that your solicitor is pulling a fast one on you and you're doing impression of the see/hear/speak no evil monkeys. It's like watching a lamb being led to the slaughter. I mean no offence, but FFS wake up and at least get a qualified second opinion. Either the loyalty you're showing to your solicitor is not being returned, or they are incompetent.
Totally - seller is currently looking like a naïve fool.

Op I have tower bridge to sell you and some unicorn horns - transfer £10k to me and they are all yours

A fool and his money are easily parted

turbo9111

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206 posts

147 months

Thursday 11th February 2021
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blueg33 said:
Totally - seller is currently looking like a naïve fool.

Op I have tower bridge to sell you and some unicorn horns - transfer £10k to me and they are all yours

A fool and his money are easily parted
Don’t be such a faceless c**k
And try to belittle me,
Just because i,m not on here every 5 minutes with the latest update,
I,m trying to report back as often as i can find time to,
I have written back to the solicitor and requested they return it back to there insurers and i,m awaiting a reply as soon as i get a reply i will update the thread..

blueg33

35,910 posts

224 months

Thursday 11th February 2021
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turbo9111 said:
blueg33 said:
Totally - seller is currently looking like a naïve fool.

Op I have tower bridge to sell you and some unicorn horns - transfer £10k to me and they are all yours

A fool and his money are easily parted
Don’t be such a faceless c**k
And try to belittle me,
Just because i,m not on here every 5 minutes with the latest update,
I,m trying to report back as often as i can find time to,
I have written back to the solicitor and requested they return it back to there insurers and i,m awaiting a reply as soon as i get a reply i will update the thread..
Not trying to belittle you but I was feeling exasperated at the approach - everything you have said and your approach is setting you up to be back here again saying "they haven't paid". You are exposing yourself to considerable risk of not getting the money totally needlessly, and I'm not the only person to spell that out.

I deal with issues like this on contracts and real estate much of the time, and the key learning is don't let people off the hook, especially when they have insurance that will cover their cockup.

I am concerned they are trying to take advantage of your good nature - as you can probably tell from my posting style at times, winning in property often means that you don't apply a good nature even when its not your usual style.

In short - play hardball





turbo9111

Original Poster:

206 posts

147 months

Thursday 11th February 2021
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blueg33 said:
Not trying to belittle you but I was feeling exasperated at the approach - everything you have said and your approach is setting you up to be back here again saying "they haven't paid". You are exposing yourself to considerable risk of not getting the money totally needlessly, and I'm not the only person to spell that out.

I deal with issues like this on contracts and real estate much of the time, and the key learning is don't let people off the hook, especially when they have insurance that will cover their cockup.

I am concerned they are trying to take advantage of your good nature - as you can probably tell from my posting style at times, winning in property often means that you don't apply a good nature even when its not your usual style.

In short - play hardball


I appreciate your advice and thankyou i get the message...

Meeten-5dulx

2,581 posts

56 months

Thursday 11th February 2021
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turbo9111 said:
blueg33 said:
Totally - seller is currently looking like a naïve fool.

Op I have tower bridge to sell you and some unicorn horns - transfer £10k to me and they are all yours

A fool and his money are easily parted
Don’t be such a faceless c**k
And try to belittle me,
Just because i,m not on here every 5 minutes with the latest update,
I,m trying to report back as often as i can find time to,
I have written back to the solicitor and requested they return it back to there insurers and i,m awaiting a reply as soon as i get a reply i will update the thread..
I think that it was lost in the prose.
Overwhelming opinion is that the money should be returned to you by your solicitor as they have dropped the ball.

You want the seller to know that you are not going to be taken for a fool - and you have accomoplished this. Well done.

Now they are claiming to pay you £1k/m (which is an improvement on 'I'm broke guv"), so you win.

Except that they will not pay you the full sum, and by allowing them a monthly payment schedule the solicitor will say they are off the hook.

It seems that the attention should turn to the solicitor (and you have rightly done this) to say, "you ballsed up", the seller will come good.

Sort me out the £10k by x date, and you can concerntrate your efforts to get that back from the seller....

If the above is about right, then good on you and you seem to have taken on board the common concensus.

I wish you the best of luck in getting the total money back, hopefully via the solicitor (who does not want to use the insurance they may have), and then they can do the chasing. In the meantime, you can let them get on with the games whilst you are righted for the wrong that was put on you unfairly.


WIN WIN ....



Edited by Meeten-5dulx on Thursday 11th February 21:09

turbo9111

Original Poster:

206 posts

147 months

Thursday 11th February 2021
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thanks,
I think that post sums it up well.....

turbo9111

Original Poster:

206 posts

147 months

Friday 12th February 2021
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Small update,
My solicitor has now emailed to say they have referred it back to there insurance company.

Ken Figenus

5,707 posts

117 months

Friday 12th February 2021
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the tribester said:
I was thinking this too.

OP, is your solicitor listed on Trust Pilot??
TrustPilot is comedy - they charge a business a fee and they then et to submit 'verified' fake super positive reviews. Ask me how I know having used an atrocious online letting agency! You can spot the fake reviews as the staff big themselves up by name 'great service from Chantelle - never needed to chase her once for a conveyancing update - super sweet and brill' .

OP - learnt loads here and good luck with it but I think I'd be leaning towards the solicitors PI by now as despite trying to teach the pair some morals they will default on repayments and still 'win'... They or their insurers (who likely will be able to see this and wont bother) can try to recoup at leisure...

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Friday 12th February 2021
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turbo9111 said:
Small update,
My solicitor has now emailed to say they have referred it back to there insurance company.
On your direct request or because you suggested they front you the £10K and get it back from the vendors themselves?

turbo9111

Original Poster:

206 posts

147 months

Friday 12th February 2021
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Centurion07 said:
On your direct request or because you suggested they front you the £10K and get it back from the vendors themselves?
More of a i,m not happy with how things are going so i would like you to do as previous agreed and refer it back to your insurers...

sealtt

3,091 posts

158 months

Friday 12th February 2021
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Good, hope you get the £10k from solicitors, they let you down badly.

turbo9111

Original Poster:

206 posts

147 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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WELL HERES A UPDATE,
Our super dooper helpfull solicitor ...yawn....Has today agreed to pay us the £10k back and pursue the previous owners themselves, I would like to say to everyone who has helped and offered advice a real big thank you, you guys are a credit to PH and again thanks very very much,
MUCHAS GRACIAS......

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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Good result.

Mgd_uk

369 posts

104 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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That’s a fantastic result, I bet he will work harder knowing that the £10k is missing from his own bank account!

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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Mgd_uk said:
That’s a fantastic result, I bet he will work harder knowing that the £10k is missing from his own bank account!
Insurance?

turbo9111

Original Poster:

206 posts

147 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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They decided not to go through there insurance but pay it themselves ????

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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Think someone mentioned earlier in the thread it's possible their excess is £10K or more plus making a claim would likely put their premium up.

turbo9111

Original Poster:

206 posts

147 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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Centurion07 said:
Think someone mentioned earlier in the thread it's possible their excess is £10K or more plus making a claim would likely put their premium up.
That’s exactly it ....

Meeten-5dulx

2,581 posts

56 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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turbo9111 said:
WELL HERES A UPDATE,
Our super dooper helpfull solicitor ...yawn....Has today agreed to pay us the £10k back and pursue the previous owners themselves, I would like to say to everyone who has helped and offered advice a real big thank you, you guys are a credit to PH and again thanks very very much,
MUCHAS GRACIAS......
Wonderful news.
They came good.