Illegal for landlord to refuse on food preference?

Illegal for landlord to refuse on food preference?

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TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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OpulentBob said:
eldar said:
Vaud said:
Full marks BV. May your life be filled with dubious Alfas of various road worthiness.
+1

Though I suspect dubious Alfas is somewhat harsh!
+2.
Various Alfas of dubious roadworthiness?

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Know nothing about Alfas so can't comment.................. but I did have the misfortune of meeting Mr Wilson on several occasions though...................have a beer on me BV beer

chow pan toon

12,388 posts

238 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Just to add my voice to the general chorus of approval: Well done BV

cmaguire

3,589 posts

110 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
cmaguire said:
I doubt we'll agree on that.
There are many things said openly and freely 30 years ago that could very easily result in prosecution now, and they are opinions and views rather than incitement of any kind. And whilst some views expressed freely back then may well be unreasonable under scrutiny, the reality now is that certain subjects are not now open for free discussion as those that feel they have the moral high ground shout everyone else down with accusations of racism or bigotry.
Meanwhile those self same moralists can tout their propaganda without scrutiny. Welcome to the age of enlightenment.
Didn't we do this last week...?
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Bacon Is Proof said:
That post makes you sound like a racist and an apologist, just so you know.
I'm sure you're not, but as someone with no interest in getting involved in the discussion, I just thought you'd like to know how you're coming across. smile
Yes, we definitely did that bit...
I'm not going to wade through all that Lounge thread as it'll be entirely predictable anyway, but I agree with the OP's.
And you can link to all the legal jargon you like, but actions speak louder than words on both sides, and those words frequently don't represent the practical reality.
There are some parallels with the fox-hunting debate/protesters, where many of those claiming to be on the 'right' side were often guilty of behaviour far more questionable than that of their protagonists on the supposed 'wrong' side.

StairDominator appears to hold some entertainment value.

Vaud

50,622 posts

156 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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cmaguire said:
StairDominator appears to hold some entertainment value.
Not any more.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/profile.asp?h=...

cmaguire

3,589 posts

110 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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What happened to him then?

Banned for 'Freedom of Speech'?

Vaud

50,622 posts

156 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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cmaguire said:
What happened to him then?

Banned for 'Freedom of Speech'?
Returning banned poster (I think he said was in a post).

captain_cynic

12,075 posts

96 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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cmaguire said:
I doubt we'll agree on that.
There are many things said openly and freely 30 years ago that could very easily result in prosecution now, and they are opinions and views rather than incitement of any kind. And whilst some views expressed freely back then may well be unreasonable under scrutiny, the reality now is that certain subjects are not now open for free discussion as those that feel they have the moral high ground shout everyone else down with accusations of racism or bigotry.
Meanwhile those self same moralists can tout their propaganda without scrutiny. Welcome to the age of enlightenment.
Such as? provide real world examples?

The fact is, none of that is happening. If anything, saying things that would have gotten the crap beaten out of your 30 years ago (that was 1988 for those playing along at home) can be said today without consequence.

Say after me "Free speech does not compel everyone to silently agree with me, free speech does not protect me from criticism".

CAPP0

19,607 posts

204 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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BV, in the scheme of things I believe it's rather important that we understand which of the fleet you entrusted with the task of ferrying you down west for the hearing?

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Breadvan72 said:
<chuckle> It couldn't happen to a better "bum-splat".

What a sound chap Mr Hyde's barrister appears to be, to take on a case like that for free - his reported comments on the video and blogger appear to be bob-on, too...
...Slow clap

Bravo!

I only wish the judge gave a higher ££ figure to be given to the legal access charity...

cmaguire

3,589 posts

110 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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captain_cynic said:
Such as? provide real world examples?

The fact is, none of that is happening. If anything, saying things that would have gotten the crap beaten out of your 30 years ago (that was 1988 for those playing along at home) can be said today without consequence.

Say after me "Free speech does not compel everyone to silently agree with me, free speech does not protect me from criticism".
Where exactly is it you hear people saying these things that would have resulted in a beating 30 years ago but goes of without a hitch now?

It's you that is making stuff up.

donkmeister

8,220 posts

101 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Bacon Is Proof said:
That post makes you sound like a racist and an apologist, just so you know.
I'm sure you're not, but as someone with no interest in getting involved in the discussion, I just thought you'd like to know how you're coming across. smile
Your post illustrates his view rather well smile

Here is a real-life example: I think all religion is illogical and is not beyond criticism and reproach. I once made the mistake of talking about the "Nativity myth" in a discussion with a Christian friend, he explained he found that disrespectful but after i apologised for the offence caused and explained my stance that he would think nothing of talking about the "myths"of the ancient Greeks he was happy.
But, when I voiced my disapproval of stunless slaughter as cruel and unacceptable I am told by that same friend that is islamophobic. How? Islam doesn't forbid it, many Muslims are happy for halal meat to be stunned, I was told that by an imam. But, virtue signalling has become a big thing for some and these are the people who cry "you're being <>-cist/phobic"
There are still bigots, racists, homophobes etc out there. We all accept that.
Why is it hard to accept that there is also SJW bigotry too?

Gavia

7,627 posts

92 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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donkmeister said:
Your post illustrates his view rather well smile

Here is a real-life example: I think all religion is illogical and is not beyond criticism and reproach. I once made the mistake of talking about the "Nativity myth" in a discussion with a Christian friend, he explained he found that disrespectful but after i apologised for the offence caused and explained my stance that he would think nothing of talking about the "myths"of the ancient Greeks he was happy.
But, when I voiced my disapproval of stunless slaughter as cruel and unacceptable I am told by that same friend that is islamophobic. How? Islam doesn't forbid it, many Muslims are happy for halal meat to be stunned, I was told that by an imam. But, virtue signalling has become a big thing for some and these are the people who cry "you're being <>-cist/phobic"
There are still bigots, racists, homophobes etc out there. We all accept that.
Why is it hard to accept that there is also SJW bigotry too?
As much as you’re trying to make out that you’re making a valid point, the use of “SJW” and “virtue signalling” shows what your thoughts really are.

You need to learn to make a point without getting all offended that others might get offended.

Flibble

6,476 posts

182 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Breadvan72 said:
Wilson was represented by a hapless young woman working on a low paid gig basis for a company which is a sort of Uber of the legal system, sending unqualified advocates to court. She had an impossible gig. The Judge was unimpressed by Wilson's failure to show up at court.
I don't understand why a reputed multi-millionaire would leave the handling of this case to such a company rather than instructing a proper law firm. Bizarre.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Flibble said:
Breadvan72 said:
Wilson was represented by a hapless young woman working on a low paid gig basis for a company which is a sort of Uber of the legal system, sending unqualified advocates to court. She had an impossible gig. The Judge was unimpressed by Wilson's failure to show up at court.
I don't understand why a reputed multi-millionaire would leave the handling of this case to such a company rather than instructing a proper law firm. Bizarre.
Maybe he's a millionaire skinflint.

Knows the cost of everything, but not the value

ATG

20,625 posts

273 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Gavia said:
donkmeister said:
Your post illustrates his view rather well smile

Here is a real-life example: I think all religion is illogical and is not beyond criticism and reproach. I once made the mistake of talking about the "Nativity myth" in a discussion with a Christian friend, he explained he found that disrespectful but after i apologised for the offence caused and explained my stance that he would think nothing of talking about the "myths"of the ancient Greeks he was happy.
But, when I voiced my disapproval of stunless slaughter as cruel and unacceptable I am told by that same friend that is islamophobic. How? Islam doesn't forbid it, many Muslims are happy for halal meat to be stunned, I was told that by an imam. But, virtue signalling has become a big thing for some and these are the people who cry "you're being <>-cist/phobic"
There are still bigots, racists, homophobes etc out there. We all accept that.
Why is it hard to accept that there is also SJW bigotry too?
As much as you’re trying to make out that you’re making a valid point, the use of “SJW” and “virtue signalling” shows what your thoughts really are.

You need to learn to make a point without getting all offended that others might get offended.
Also that post didn't support camguire's point one iota. The claim was that our freedom of expression has been curtailed (on political whims, etc). Did donkmeister fall foul of the law by expressing opinions about Christianity and animal slaughter? No, he didn't. Is politely pointing out to camguire that he's coming across as a bit of a racist impinging on camguire's freedom of expression? No, it isn't.

Not getting the response you'd like from your audience is not an indication that your freedom of speech is being curtailed. It tells you that people disagree with you. You don't need protection from that.

donkmeister

8,220 posts

101 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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ATG said:
Gavia said:
donkmeister said:
Your post illustrates his view rather well smile

Here is a real-life example: I think all religion is illogical and is not beyond criticism and reproach. I once made the mistake of talking about the "Nativity myth" in a discussion with a Christian friend, he explained he found that disrespectful but after i apologised for the offence caused and explained my stance that he would think nothing of talking about the "myths"of the ancient Greeks he was happy.
But, when I voiced my disapproval of stunless slaughter as cruel and unacceptable I am told by that same friend that is islamophobic. How? Islam doesn't forbid it, many Muslims are happy for halal meat to be stunned, I was told that by an imam. But, virtue signalling has become a big thing for some and these are the people who cry "you're being <>-cist/phobic"
There are still bigots, racists, homophobes etc out there. We all accept that.
Why is it hard to accept that there is also SJW bigotry too?
As much as you’re trying to make out that you’re making a valid point, the use of “SJW” and “virtue signalling” shows what your thoughts really are.

You need to learn to make a point without getting all offended that others might get offended.
Also that post didn't support camguire's point one iota. The claim was that our freedom of expression has been curtailed (on political whims, etc). Did donkmeister fall foul of the law by expressing opinions about Christianity and animal slaughter? No, he didn't. Is politely pointing out to camguire that he's coming across as a bit of a racist impinging on camguire's freedom of expression? No, it isn't.

Not getting the response you'd like from your audience is not an indication that your freedom of speech is being curtailed. It tells you that people disagree with you. You don't need protection from that.
Do we have a facepalm button on here? Ooh, this one will do banghead

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Flibble said:
I don't understand why a reputed multi-millionaire would leave the handling of this case to such a company rather than instructing a proper law firm. Bizarre.
A cynic might point to the likelihood of his property empire being massively indebted, having been built up rapidly from nothing pre-crash, and at the myriad press reports of impending sale of the portfolio which have been rife for quite a few years since.

If you follow that logic through, then you could infer that somebody may be nominally asset-rich but not necessarily cash-rich, because of the enormous mortgage monkey on his back.

Just think about what might happen in a theoretical situation where a lender repossessed, and the effect it would have on the local market - and on the lender's bottom line. It may mean such a lender was somewhat reluctant to take such action, to the point they could consider a scenario where there was a nominal frontman continuing to trade despite borderline insolvency.

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Flibble said:
Breadvan72 said:
Wilson was represented by a hapless young woman working on a low paid gig basis for a company which is a sort of Uber of the legal system, sending unqualified advocates to court. She had an impossible gig. The Judge was unimpressed by Wilson's failure to show up at court.
I don't understand why a reputed multi-millionaire would leave the handling of this case to such a company rather than instructing a proper law firm. Bizarre.
They may have had many BTL properties but they may also have had many BTL mortgages as well?

eta just noticed 2cv puts it more eloquently than me



Edited by alfie2244 on Thursday 22 February 15:31

Flibble

6,476 posts

182 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Fair points there. Suing someone for being mean on the internet is the act of a man who needs a bit of cash to be fair. It correlates with his damages being exactly at the small claims limit too.