Illegal for landlord to refuse on food preference?

Illegal for landlord to refuse on food preference?

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Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

106 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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hyphen said:
So do these curry smells have some amazing powers that can't be tackled?

Or is is a case of the bargain basement ventilatiors/extractors this landlord fits, not actually do anything.
Yes is the simple answer.

No, even quality "household grade" extraction will not prevent it given time.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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I've never noticed a pervasive smell of curry when visiting the houses of people I know who are of South Asian origin. Similarly, my French friends don't have houses smelling of garlic.

cmaguire

3,589 posts

110 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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I rented a property to some Pakistanis once.
They turned out to fit the stereotype nicely, and it wasn't long before the letting agent told me he'd see 5 or 6 of them on the street outside the door every morning on his way to work (it was a two bed rented to a couple, that said the wife's mother might stay over occasionally to babysit).
When they left, after going into arrears and stringing it out, the place was a mess with mould all over from the condensation and the place stank of curry.
Total redecoration, deep cleaning and repairs required to put it right again and remove the smell.

I wouldn't rent to similar ethnic backgrounds again. Too much potential hassle.
Eastern Europeans on the other hand are often better than the locals. I only rent out one place now and they're never any hassle.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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4rephill said:
She said that the whole house reeked of curry, and when she stepped into the kitchen every single surface was coated in a black sticky substance that couldn't be removed with standard household cleaning products, and her shoes were sticking to the floor as though she was standing on glue.
The smell was a symptom of a monumentally filthy, greasy kitchen... No more than that.

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

106 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
The smell was a symptom of a monumentally filthy, greasy kitchen... No more than that.
Rubbish, it is the combination/ result of the particulates generated from roasting/dry cooking spices and the use of gee.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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Stickyfinger said:
TooMany2cvs said:
The smell was a symptom of a monumentally filthy, greasy kitchen... No more than that.
Rubbish, it is the combination/ result of the particulates generated from roasting/dry cooking spices
Strange how SWMBO and I do that regularly here (despite being "indigenous" (well, 50% in her case, but 100% white Northern European...), with zero lasting effect. But, then, we don't stick to the kitchen floor or walls - because we aren't filthy slobs.

Stickyfinger said:
and the use of gee.
Do you know what ghee is?

It's butter.

Or, to be a bit more technical, clarified butter. That's all. Nothing magical.

It's a doddle to make - you melt unsalted butter in a ban, skim off the foam with a spoon, then separate the yellow fat (the ghee) from the milky solids beneath - and the ghee is about 80% of the butter. Takes minutes, keeps really well in the fridge. The main difference is that it allows you to cook hotter than "straight" butter, at temperatures more akin to frying in olive or veg oil.

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

106 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
Do you know what ghee is?

It's butter.

Or, to be a bit more technical, clarified butter. That's all. Nothing magical.

It's a doddle to make - you melt unsalted butter in a ban, skim off the foam with a spoon, then separate the yellow fat (the ghee) from the milky solids beneath - and the ghee is about 80% of the butter. Takes minutes, keeps really well in the fridge. The main difference is that it allows you to cook hotter than "straight" butter, at temperatures more akin to frying in olive or veg oil.
OK, you are welcome to those houses, I just cannot be arsed to point out the obvious reasons in your counter..............enjoy the smell.

BTW....have you (honestly now) ever been in a house that has cooked/dry roasted spices for a large family....for years ?

Gavia

7,627 posts

92 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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I still don’t see why this is limited to curries in some people’s minds. I bought a house recently with a kitchen that was caked in thick fat from the amount of deep fat frying by the former owners. It was absolutely disgusting and meant a new kitchen was the first fitment in the house. Cleaning it was an absolute no go.

It seems to me thought that the issue is as simple as dirty people will leave a house in a filthy condition and clean people won’t. Clean or filthy isn’t dictated by skin colour and those supporting the landlord’s views are probably best heading over to NP&E where they’ll find plenty of other people who share their views.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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Gavia said:
I still don’t see why this is limited to curries in some people’s minds.
Just look at the people who claim it is, and you have your answer.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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A house sticking of deep fat fryer would be worse.

cmaguire

3,589 posts

110 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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Gavia said:
I still don’t see why this is limited to curries in some people’s minds. I bought a house recently with a kitchen that was caked in thick fat from the amount of deep fat frying by the former owners. It was absolutely disgusting and meant a new kitchen was the first fitment in the house. Cleaning it was an absolute no go.

It seems to me thought that the issue is as simple as dirty people will leave a house in a filthy condition and clean people won’t. Clean or filthy isn’t dictated by skin colour and those supporting the landlord’s views are probably best heading over to NP&E where they’ll find plenty of other people who share their views.
I doubt you'd be happy having to re-fit the kitchen after every tenancy.
And how many people have said this is limited to curry before you came along?

You and CV can be as self-righteous as you like, but not applying some pragmatism when it comes to who tenants your property is financially naive.
If some PC rules get broken in doing so then I couldn't care a less, I'll just make sure it's all off the record.
Thankfully I only rent the one now.


Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

106 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
Gavia said:
I still don’t see why this is limited to curries in some people’s minds.
Just look at the people who claim it is, and you have your answer.
Oh do one you idiot.

It is because of roasted spices and the particulates that produces.....since when has roasting spices ever been the preserve of any particular "type" of person.~

Only a total idiot would "race card" a spice and its byproduct.

Gavia

7,627 posts

92 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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cmaguire said:
I doubt you'd be happy having to re-fit the kitchen after every tenancy.
And how many people have said this is limited to curry before you came along?

You and CV can be as self-righteous as you like, but not applying some pragmatism when it comes to who tenants your property is financially naive.
If some PC rules get broken in doing so then I couldn't care a less, I'll just make sure it's all off the record.
Thankfully I only rent the one now.
You’re right. I wouldn’t. Dirty tenants are not limited to your “stereotypical Pakistanis” though. If I have to refit a kitchen, then that’s the risk I take.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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Is it just me, or has there been a resurgence in open racism? Farage et al have normalised views that were hiding themselves for a while.

Gavia

7,627 posts

92 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
Is it just me, or has there been a resurgence in open racism? Farage et al have normalised views that were hiding themselves for a while.
There’s been an outright resurgence and it’s virtually considered normal again. I specifically took the two words in quotes from cmaguire’s earlier post, as once again he showed his true colours.

He’ll now bleat on elsewhere that I called him a racist.

Here it is, before it gets edited.

cmaguire said:
I rented a property to some Pakistanis once.
They turned out to fit the stereotype nicely, and it wasn't long before the letting agent told me he'd see 5 or 6 of them on the street outside the door every morning on his way to work (it was a two bed rented to a couple, that said the wife's mother might stay over occasionally to babysit).
When they left, after going into arrears and stringing it out, the place was a mess with mould all over from the condensation and the place stank of curry.
Total redecoration, deep cleaning and repairs required to put it right again and remove the smell.

I wouldn't rent to similar ethnic backgrounds again. Too much potential hassle.
Eastern Europeans on the other hand are often better than the locals. I only rent out one place now and they're never any hassle.

cmaguire

3,589 posts

110 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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Gavia said:
Breadvan72 said:
Is it just me, or has there been a resurgence in open racism? Farage et al have normalised views that were hiding themselves for a while.
There’s been an outright resurgence and it’s virtually considered normal again. I specifically took the two words in quotes from cmaguire’s earlier post, as once again he showed his true colours.

He’ll now bleat on elsewhere that I called him a racist.

Here it is, before it gets edited.

cmaguire said:
I rented a property to some Pakistanis once.
They turned out to fit the stereotype nicely, and it wasn't long before the letting agent told me he'd see 5 or 6 of them on the street outside the door every morning on his way to work (it was a two bed rented to a couple, that said the wife's mother might stay over occasionally to babysit).
When they left, after going into arrears and stringing it out, the place was a mess with mould all over from the condensation and the place stank of curry.
Total redecoration, deep cleaning and repairs required to put it right again and remove the smell.

I wouldn't rent to similar ethnic backgrounds again. Too much potential hassle.
Eastern Europeans on the other hand are often better than the locals. I only rent out one place now and they're never any hassle.
Why on earth would it get edited?

Oh hang on, you're quoting me before grassing me up to the moderators for some supposed racism and trying to get it censored yourself.

You appear to be confusing realism and pragmatism with racism.
Don't forget to call me homophobic and misogynistic on your way out, you'll have a full house then.

cmaguire

3,589 posts

110 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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I'm not sure whether I find you amusing or tedious, but either way I won't be bothering the moderators as regards any of your frequently insulting posts.

mikeyr

3,118 posts

194 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
Is it just me, or has there been a resurgence in open racism? Farage et al have normalised views that were hiding themselves for a while.
Yep, and PH can be the absolute worst for it. It's become quite unwelcoming. Still, Brexit will cure all right? wink

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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To judge all members of a group as being the same because of the behaviour of a member or members of that group is the essence of prejudice, and when the prejudice is against an ethnic group, that's the essence of racism. Thus cmaguire can fairly be described as a racist. If he regards that as an insult, then the remedy may be to stop thinking as a racist does.

cmaguire

3,589 posts

110 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
To judge all members of a group as being the same because of the behaviour of a member or members of that group is the essence of prejudice, and when the prejudice is against an ethnic group, that's the essence of racism. Thus cmaguire can fairly be described as a racist. If he regards that as an insult, then the remedy may be to stop thinking as a racist does.
You do appreciate that I had no part in creating any stereotypes, they existed long before I came along. And merely referring to them does not a racist make.
The real irony here is that most of the 'races' you marvellously inclusive individuals are so tragically desperate to be seen to embrace are, certainly back in their 'home' countries, some of the most racist individuals you're likely to find.
I'll freely admit to holding certain preconceptions (rather than the prejudices that suit your agenda) but ultimately I'll judge everyone I deal with directly on their own merits.