Tractor pushes parked cars out of the way

Tractor pushes parked cars out of the way

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anonymous-user

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55 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
Chinny reckon...

Apart from anything else, do you have the first idea why tractor tyres are so big? For very low ground pressure. They exert less pressure on the ground than the pushchair's wheels. Now, why do you think that might be? Could it be so that they can drive across soil without churning it or compacting it? Why do you think that might be a useful thing for agricultural machinery...?

Must be the world's sttest bit of path gravelling, too.
I've not heard anyone say "chinny reckon" since I was at primary school. Grow up.
Seeing as I live there and have walked the path, yes the details I gave are correct. The council gravelled the entire mile or so path, the farmer decided to screw up 100m or so of it to get into his field.
Quite possibly it was stty gravelling, thats councils for you, do the bare minimum you can get away with.

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 25th November 11:17

Crackie

6,386 posts

243 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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JimSuperSix said:
does "stopped" mean the same as "paused for a second"
No

Crackie

6,386 posts

243 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Jimmy, it would have been a lot simpler if you had said, earlier in the thread, that you are very pi55ed off with farmers in general. It would explained why you were posting gibberish.

Edited by Crackie on Saturday 25th November 12:38

Red Devil

13,069 posts

209 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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JimSuperSix said:
He said "went through and damaged" , I said drove through and crashed. Same thing.
JSS is actually Paul Chowdhry AICMFP. wink - https://youtu.be/9Cnr7TBEiqA?t=337

Pooh

3,692 posts

254 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Efbe said:
Pooh said:
Efbe said:
Mind you, moving from West Yorkshire to Perthshire next week and I hear it's worse
Where in Perthshire are you moving to? I live in Perthshire and do around 25k miles per year mostly on A and B roads and have very few problems other than the amount of mud that sometimes covers the minor roads.
Auchterarder.
My family is from Perth, so not a completely random move. Not exactly sure how well a broad Yorkshire accent will fit in though!
I don't think you will have a problem, I sound quite English because I lived in Buckinghamshire as a kid and I have never had an issue.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Crackie said:
Jimmy, it would have been a lot simpler if you had said, earlier in the thread, that you are very pi55ed off with farmers in general. It would explained why you were posting gibberish.

Edited by Crackie on Saturday 25th November 12:38
Only with tts, just in this case it happens to be a farmer.

GTIAlex

1,935 posts

167 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Still bickering lol

anonymous-user

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55 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Nanook said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Chinny reckon...

Apart from anything else, do you have the first idea why tractor tyres are so big? For very low ground pressure. They exert less pressure on the ground than the pushchair's wheels. Now, why do you think that might be? Could it be so that they can drive across soil without churning it or compacting it? Why do you think that might be a useful thing for agricultural machinery...?

Must be the world's sttest bit of path gravelling, too.
As someone that lived on a farm for years, I can tell you that it doesn't take much to turn a gravel path into a swamp, if you're gonna drive a tractor up and down it daily.

And yes, tractors have large tyres to keep the applied pressure down. But they're also fecking heavy compared to a pushchair. The tyres are also designed to provide traction, at the expense of sympathy for the surface. So if it's wet, they don't drive across soil without churning it or compacting it. I'm beginning to wonder if you've ever seen a tractor or a field before.
At 16,000+ posts in 4 years , I doubt it, unless Google counts hehe

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

168 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Nanook said:
As someone that lived on a farm for years, I can tell you that it doesn't take much to turn a gravel path into a swamp, if you're gonna drive a tractor up and down it daily.

And yes, tractors have large tyres to keep the applied pressure down. But they're also fecking heavy compared to a pushchair. The tyres are also designed to provide traction, at the expense of sympathy for the surface. So if it's wet, they don't drive across soil without churning it or compacting it. I'm beginning to wonder if you've ever seen a tractor or a field before.
Tractor tyres are designed to be as gentle on the soil as possible

Dixy

2,924 posts

206 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Whilst maintaining forward motion and traction whilst pulling a ground engaging anchor.

Efbe

9,251 posts

167 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Willy Nilly said:
Nanook said:
As someone that lived on a farm for years, I can tell you that it doesn't take much to turn a gravel path into a swamp, if you're gonna drive a tractor up and down it daily.

And yes, tractors have large tyres to keep the applied pressure down. But they're also fecking heavy compared to a pushchair. The tyres are also designed to provide traction, at the expense of sympathy for the surface. So if it's wet, they don't drive across soil without churning it or compacting it. I'm beginning to wonder if you've ever seen a tractor or a field before.
Tractor tyres are designed to be as gentle on the soil as possible
agreed.

Tractors go through fields all the time, even when wet they generally very very little damage. Otherwise how would they be able to harvest a field without destroying it!

Take a bicycle through the same field and they will churn it up.

FiF

44,144 posts

252 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Efbe said:
Willy Nilly said:
Nanook said:
As someone that lived on a farm for years, I can tell you that it doesn't take much to turn a gravel path into a swamp, if you're gonna drive a tractor up and down it daily.

And yes, tractors have large tyres to keep the applied pressure down. But they're also fecking heavy compared to a pushchair. The tyres are also designed to provide traction, at the expense of sympathy for the surface. So if it's wet, they don't drive across soil without churning it or compacting it. I'm beginning to wonder if you've ever seen a tractor or a field before.
Tractor tyres are designed to be as gentle on the soil as possible
agreed.

Tractors go through fields all the time, even when wet they generally very very little damage. Otherwise how would they be able to harvest a field without destroying it!

Take a bicycle through the same field and they will churn it up.
Biggest damage to unmetalled paths and roads round our way is down to trail bikers and horses in wet weather. Yes tractors can and do create problems but after a fair number of passages down the road.

Puddenchucker

4,108 posts

219 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Efbe said:
Willy Nilly said:
Nanook said:
As someone that lived on a farm for years, I can tell you that it doesn't take much to turn a gravel path into a swamp, if you're gonna drive a tractor up and down it daily.

And yes, tractors have large tyres to keep the applied pressure down. But they're also fecking heavy compared to a pushchair. The tyres are also designed to provide traction, at the expense of sympathy for the surface. So if it's wet, they don't drive across soil without churning it or compacting it. I'm beginning to wonder if you've ever seen a tractor or a field before.
Tractor tyres are designed to be as gentle on the soil as possible
agreed.

Tractors go through fields all the time, even when wet they generally very very little damage. Otherwise how would they be able to harvest a field without destroying it!

Take a bicycle through the same field and they will churn it up.
Farmers are well aware of what damage and problems driving tractors or harvesters on soft ground can do, so generally try to keep it to a minimum if possible. It's the reason why the area around a field entrance is more churned up than the rest of the field, because by its very nature if gets more traffic.



Ed/L152

480 posts

238 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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Keyboard warriors and armchair farmers aplenty here!

Following on from the above photo, most fields are no-go areas at this time of year for exactly this reason. Tractor tyres are not at all gentle on the soil - even the massive low pressure tyres cause damaging soil compaction.

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

133 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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Wiccan of Darkness said:
And there we have it.

Never mind Godwins law, "Wiccy's Law" states that in any internet argument, the relative size of the points argued over diminish exponentially until the spelling, punctuation and grammar is seized upon by one poster, against another.
I think you'll find corollary is the word you are looking for wink

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

168 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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Ed/L152 said:
Keyboard warriors and armchair farmers aplenty here!

Following on from the above photo, most fields are no-go areas at this time of year for exactly this reason. Tractor tyres are not at all gentle on the soil - even the massive low pressure tyres cause damaging soil compaction.
The combine in the above picture, aside from being a pile of crap, probably weighs 25t or more with a full bin. If you look in front of it is a parked center pivot, which almost certainly will have needed water through it to move it. Also if that picture was taken this fall harvest, there has been a lot of rain in the US (where it was taken), so the field would have been wet before they moved the pivot.

I will reiterate, that agricultural tyres are designed to be as gentle as possible on the land over which they are traveling. Obviously they have limits, but there as been huge improvements in tyre technology. I think the tyres on the combine, certainly the ones Claas use (which they had a hand in designing) are called Cyclical Load tyres, because they are designed to be overloaded for a short period of time for example when the bin is full and bulge out even more.

surveyor

17,845 posts

185 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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Willy Nilly said:
The combine in the above picture, aside from being a pile of crap, probably weighs 25t or more with a full bin. If you look in front of it is a parked center pivot, which almost certainly will have needed water through it to move it. Also if that picture was taken this fall harvest, there has been a lot of rain in the US (where it was taken), so the field would have been wet before they moved the pivot.

I will reiterate, that agricultural tyres are designed to be as gentle as possible on the land over which they are traveling. Obviously they have limits, but there as been huge improvements in tyre technology. I think the tyres on the combine, certainly the ones Claas use (which they had a hand in designing) are called Cyclical Load tyres, because they are designed to be overloaded for a short period of time for example when the bin is full and bulge out even more.
I don't often agree with Willy, but I often have to tramp through fields to get to Telephone Masts. My car would have no chance. Farmers tractors in and out no bother, with very little rutting.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

55 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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surveyor said:
Willy Nilly said:
The combine in the above picture, aside from being a pile of crap, probably weighs 25t or more with a full bin. If you look in front of it is a parked center pivot, which almost certainly will have needed water through it to move it. Also if that picture was taken this fall harvest, there has been a lot of rain in the US (where it was taken), so the field would have been wet before they moved the pivot.

I will reiterate, that agricultural tyres are designed to be as gentle as possible on the land over which they are traveling. Obviously they have limits, but there as been huge improvements in tyre technology. I think the tyres on the combine, certainly the ones Claas use (which they had a hand in designing) are called Cyclical Load tyres, because they are designed to be overloaded for a short period of time for example when the bin is full and bulge out even more.
I don't often agree with Willy, but I often have to tramp through fields to get to Telephone Masts. My car would have no chance. Farmers tractors in and out no bother, with very little rutting.
Around here the entry area to every field (and many of the grass verges) look like this at this time of year:
http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/ca6aaf72465a4eb7a17f4ba7...

Once you get a tractor on wet or soft ground they turn it into a mud-bath very quickly. The tractors cope fine of course, the tyres are designed to work on that sort of surface and still give traction, but they make a huge mess doing so.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

168 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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JimSuperSix said:
Around here the entry area to every field (and many of the grass verges) look like this at this time of year:
http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/ca6aaf72465a4eb7a17f4ba7...

Once you get a tractor on wet or soft ground they turn it into a mud-bath very quickly. The tractors cope fine of course, the tyres are designed to work on that sort of surface and still give traction, but they make a huge mess doing so.
That isn't particularly bad when you consider the axle weight. Not sure how we have got to tractor tyres from a blocked road.

_dobbo_

14,390 posts

249 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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Willy Nilly said:
Not sure how we have got to tractor tyres from a blocked road.
Something new to argue about, happy days!