Ask a Highways England Traffic Officer anything

Ask a Highways England Traffic Officer anything

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Flibbertygibbet

29 posts

166 months

Thursday 25th January 2018
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Wouldn’t surprise me if they have trialled a Dacia at some point, they have trialled everything else. Kia Sportage for example ticked almost every box apart from towing capacity.

I think the x5 was canned as it couldn’t carry a full complement of kit when the equipment cage was installed.

No one has ever really talked about trying high load capacity estates either but I imagine the same towing capacity issues are prevalent wherever the vehicles team look.

cmaguire

3,589 posts

110 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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HantsRat said:
cmaguire said:
Our roads are bloody awful.
Compare them to France and Spain for example.

They are a patchwork quilt of bodged repairs and potholes here.
Also been to France and Spain. Would say we are on par with them. Our villages have better roads than small french/spanish villages though.
The awful state of our roads all over the news today.
You don't really think France and Spain are so bad do you?

revvingit

444 posts

81 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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OpulentBob said:
Quite.

I've been considering an "ask a roads engineer/designer" thread but I fear it will bring the mouth breathers and armchair experts out of the woodwork. And if there's anything PH isn't short of, it's armchair experts.
That sounds like it would be an interesting thread. At least to try and understand the reasoning behind some decisions that appear bonkers to outsiders (I'm looking at you, 30mph dual carriageways).

Zippyworld

796 posts

185 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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Hello Mr Highways Officer,

Not sure if you can help me with this one, and apologies if its in an earlier thread.

I seek clarification and definition regarding Speed Camera enforcement on SMART Motorways in the UK. My local one is M60.

I understand Average Speed cameras and illuminated gantry signs displaying the current maximum speed on the SMART motorway.

I assume that when the unrestricted sign / National speed limit sign is displayed then a speed camera will be armed and would detect a car travelling at 90mph for example...?

My second question for definitive clarification is, if there are no speed signs displayed on the gantries are the cameras armed ? Although 70 mph is enforceable if a car travelled at 80 - 90mph will it be detected and flashed.

littleredrooster

5,538 posts

197 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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Zippyworld said:
Hello Mr Highways Officer,

Not sure if you can help me with this one, and apologies if its in an earlier thread.

I seek clarification and definition regarding Speed Camera enforcement on SMART Motorways in the UK. My local one is M60.

I understand Average Speed cameras and illuminated gantry signs displaying the current maximum speed on the SMART motorway.

I assume that when the unrestricted sign / National speed limit sign is displayed then a speed camera will be armed and would detect a car travelling at 90mph for example...?

My second question for definitive clarification is, if there are no speed signs displayed on the gantries are the cameras armed ? Although 70 mph is enforceable if a car travelled at 80 - 90mph will it be detected and flashed.
I think you'll find that Highways England have no jurisdiction over speed enforcement.

nonsequitur

20,083 posts

117 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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Tonight there is a blue moon. Will you be watching out for it? (driving permitted of course.) sonar

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

180 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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littleredrooster said:
I think you'll find that Highways England have no jurisdiction over speed enforcement.
Correct HE can change the limits, but don't do enforcement.

The cameras and temp limit speeds are set by Highways England, but the local police/scamera partnership will be responsible for enforcement.

If you on a section of smart motorway the local police will set a threshold in AVON AND SOMERSET its around 76 when not set to a lower speed as all the tickets I have seen are 77+. So yes 80-90 will trigger a ticket certainly on the carriageways I have been on.

My last company were getting tickets from all over smart motorways for anything about 77+mph (when it was 70).

So I would assume all work. If you need to check specific cameras check you the police force website for camera info as they publish it all on their websites,



Flibbertygibbet

29 posts

166 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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The safety camera partnerships can also enable and disable the cameras at will, so you might find enforcement only happens 7-9am on some cameras for example. Really HE have no control other than installing the structures and hardware and supporting the high speed calibration trials when they are first commissioned. Same with SPECS in roadworks,installation and maintenance only.

HE have enforcement coordinators/liaison officers to deal with any enquiries that come via the wrong channels however you are best speaking to your local safety camera partnership who won’t confirm anything at all as they won’t want you to know what you can “get away” with doing.

Can we infer that you have been double flashed and want to know whether a ticket is inbound?

RRBill

18 posts

101 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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Flibbertygibbet said:


Can we infer that you have been double flashed and want to know whether a ticket is inbound?
Is there such a thing a single flash and if so what does it mean?

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

180 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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RRBill said:
Is there such a thing a single flash and if so what does it mean?
With the any digital cameras, I think it’s hard to tell as they don’t run out of film so I would assume it got you.

Also, modern digital cameras don’t need to flash during the day, only when it’s dark.


Edited by surveyor_101 on Thursday 1st February 13:45

BossHogg

Original Poster:

6,019 posts

179 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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nonsequitur said:
Tonight there is a blue moon. Will you be watching out for it? (driving permitted of course.) sonar
No, I am on leave.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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From the other in car CCTV thread biglaugh
BossHogg said:
Not at all, which is why I'm looking for another job. tongue out
They really are desperate aren't they, I was contacted by one of your colleagues today about the Knob Lane Rcc vacancies, how I laughed. They have been asked to try and 'promote' the vacancies.

They really can't keep staff can they, they are rooted in the past regarding working practices and pattens.
No wonder people are still leaving in droves, unfortunately it is usually the good ones, and it doesn't help that they have an astoundingly shockingly poor HR dept.
I see they've changed the ads from the topline rate including shift allowance to bottom line plus shift allowance, people must have seen through their little scam to make the salary look more impressive for 24/7 365 shift working in a dodgy environment.

https://careers.highways.gov.uk/search-apply/opera...

I had cause to call the Rcc recently in very poor weather conditions when I passed a LLBD with no signals set at Bowden (M56 Jnc 7 west) where the HS was converted to a slip road, because I'm a boring *$@# I watched it on CCTV and was virtually in Prestatyn on the North Wales coast before it was 'towed' off, TBH I did see 2 cars dealing with a LLBD right at the top of the Jnc 10 J slip so probably no resources, poor beggar was sat LL with no protection except I assume signals for at least 20-30 minutes.


BossHogg

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6,019 posts

179 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Don't get me wrong, I love the job, but I can't put up with the none existent pay rise yet again.

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

180 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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BossHogg said:
Don't get me wrong, I love the job, but I can't put up with the none existent pay rise yet again.
Agreed and standing on a live motorway for £22k working 365 shifts is not cricket.

My area the southwest I am told they have no problem getting applicants.

Red 4

10,744 posts

188 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Why don't you have a right-on, politically correct, thought of at a cost of ££££, crappy motto on the side of your vehicles - like the ones the police have ?

Y'know the sort - "Police and Communities Together", "Total Policing" "Proud to Protect", etc. etc.

"Highways England; Wombling - But Not Free".

"Highways England; Keeping Pistonheader's Piss Boiling".

"Highways England; We're not the fedz".

You may already have one - I just haven't noticed.


BossHogg

Original Poster:

6,019 posts

179 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Shift work doesn't bother me, I've worked shifts all my adult life. Looks like I'm back to the drawing board, just received a rejection email from the company I applied to.

BossHogg

Original Poster:

6,019 posts

179 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Highways England confused by our colours? Visit specsavers. laugh

BossHogg

Original Poster:

6,019 posts

179 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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We did have "Driving Forward" which is a bit stupid as you can't reverse on the motorway! wink

Red 4

10,744 posts

188 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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BossHogg said:
Highways England confused by our colours? Visit specsavers. laugh
Sponsorship !!!.

You're onto a winner. biggrin

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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surveyor_101 said:
BossHogg said:
Don't get me wrong, I love the job, but I can't put up with the none existent pay rise yet again.
Agreed and standing on a live motorway for £22k working 365 shifts is not cricket.
My area the southwest I am told they have no problem getting applicants.
I used to love the job but the politics and stupidity (apart from being dangerous) including putting the public and staff at risk due to over zealous risk aversion by people sat in offices miles away did my head in smile
Oh and the office admin peeps get pretty much the same pay without the shift allowance but flexitime and a raft of other opportunities.

Red 4 said:
Why don't you have a right-on, politically correct, thought of at a cost of ££££, crappy motto on the side of your vehicles - like the ones the police have
They did or considered having the Web address etc on the vehicles but they didn't want idiots (and there are many out there on the motorways) crashing whilst driving at speed trying to write a Web address or phone number down in the early days of the service.