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Boydie88 said:
Managed to get it booked in this week with Alfa Workshop, hopefully they'll be able to age it older than 2 weeks and see if there's anything else that should have set alarm bells off on the car.
Be aware that the CRA requires that you give the dealer the first opportunity to fix. Have you actually spoken to the dealer yet about this issue?
Understand your rights, "sold as seen" only applies to private sales between individuals.
Edited by esxste on Monday 15th January 15:42
esxste said:
Boydie88 said:
Managed to get it booked in this week with Alfa Workshop, hopefully they'll be able to age it older than 2 weeks and see if there's anything else that should have set alarm bells off on the car.
Be aware that the CRA requires that you give the dealer the first opportunity to fix. Have you actually spoken to the dealer yet about this issue?
esxste said:
Understand your rights, "sold as seen" only applies to private sales between individuals.
That's the part I'm trying to get my head around regarding mechanical damage as I can't see anything that determines whether this is a 'fault'.Edited by esxste on Monday 15th January 15:42
Edited by Boydie88 on Monday 15th January 15:49
ColinM50 said:
I'm going to be a bit provocative here and say I think, and hope, you haven't got a leg to stand on.
You had a look at the car but couldn't be bothered to look under it? Then you drove it for a week before having a look and all of a sudden found what you claim is major damage? Hidden by the dealer? And now you want a full refund? Hmm, do the words caveat emptor mean anything to you?
If I were the seller I'd deny all liability and put the ball back firmly in your court. There's no proof that you didn't drive over this post you seem to know so much about eh? I reckon you're trying it on and I really do hope the dealer tells you to foff
We don't really have caveat emptor in the UK for most consumer transactions now. There is a lot of onus on traders to reveal and disclose stuff.You had a look at the car but couldn't be bothered to look under it? Then you drove it for a week before having a look and all of a sudden found what you claim is major damage? Hidden by the dealer? And now you want a full refund? Hmm, do the words caveat emptor mean anything to you?
If I were the seller I'd deny all liability and put the ball back firmly in your court. There's no proof that you didn't drive over this post you seem to know so much about eh? I reckon you're trying it on and I really do hope the dealer tells you to foff
Boydie88 said:
Could well be the aircon rad.
Here's a picture of the damage.
|https://thumbsnap.com/NWbCV2gu[/url]
The reason you can see into the area is because half of the front under tray is missing. It's this under tray that fixes to the fixings on the car and those on the rear under tray, so that tray must be flapping around as I drive.[url]
That's the intercooler. I would be wanting that replaced by the dealer. It will be impacting performance at higher airflows.Here's a picture of the damage.
|https://thumbsnap.com/NWbCV2gu[/url]The reason you can see into the area is because half of the front under tray is missing. It's this under tray that fixes to the fixings on the car and those on the rear under tray, so that tray must be flapping around as I drive.[url]
Edited by Boydie88 on Sunday 14th January 20:16
Been away a bit but I did get in contact with them.
They're saying as they believe it is all cosmetic they don't have any responsibility.
Roll on the Alfa Works report.
They're saying as they believe it is all cosmetic they don't have any responsibility.
carinaman said:
I hope you get it resolved. I've bought lemons when I should've known better. You're not the first nor the last to do it. It doesn't mean the rest of the car isn't sound.
Hoping that is the case. They sounded surprised at the damage, then they had only had it in one day so could well have missed it.Roll on the Alfa Works report.
Edited by Boydie88 on Wednesday 17th January 12:56
cmaguire said:
GroundEffect said:
That's the intercooler. I would be wanting that replaced by the dealer. It will be impacting performance at higher airflows.
Unless there is a hole in it you're having a laugh regarding the performance on that car.Is the seller prepared to warrant any consequential damage, such as a blown engine? Thought not.
speedking31 said:
f the manufacturer could have used a smaller intercooler then he would have.
Is the seller prepared to warrant any consequential damage, such as a blown engine? Thought not.
Do they fit different size intercoolers depending on the region where the owner lives? If I bought one in Inverness, would I need to get a bigger intercooler fitted if I move to Tonbridge Wells?Is the seller prepared to warrant any consequential damage, such as a blown engine? Thought not.
No mention of the age of the car?
I'm not sure why you're not speaking to the dealer here? I'd want a leak down test done to make sure the intercooler isn't leaking and get the tray fitted properly. If it wasn't leaking, I don't think I would expect them to replace it (although personally it would be annoying).
On a side note, the inspection with Alfa Workshop might have gone a long way to buying a new intercooler, the dealer might have fitted that free as a good will gesture. It sounds like you maybe hoping they find something so you can reject it.
I'm not sure why you're not speaking to the dealer here? I'd want a leak down test done to make sure the intercooler isn't leaking and get the tray fitted properly. If it wasn't leaking, I don't think I would expect them to replace it (although personally it would be annoying).
On a side note, the inspection with Alfa Workshop might have gone a long way to buying a new intercooler, the dealer might have fitted that free as a good will gesture. It sounds like you maybe hoping they find something so you can reject it.
xstian said:
No mention of the age of the car?
I'm not sure why you're not speaking to the dealer here? I'd want a leak down test done to make sure the intercooler isn't leaking and get the tray fitted properly. If it wasn't leaking, I don't think I would expect them to replace it (although personally it would be annoying).
On a side note, the inspection with Alfa Workshop might have gone a long way to buying a new intercooler, the dealer might have fitted that free as a good will gesture. It sounds like you maybe hoping they find something so you can reject it.
It's a 2011, 90000 mile, 2.0 jtdm.I'm not sure why you're not speaking to the dealer here? I'd want a leak down test done to make sure the intercooler isn't leaking and get the tray fitted properly. If it wasn't leaking, I don't think I would expect them to replace it (although personally it would be annoying).
On a side note, the inspection with Alfa Workshop might have gone a long way to buying a new intercooler, the dealer might have fitted that free as a good will gesture. It sounds like you maybe hoping they find something so you can reject it.
I don't want to reject it. The dealer say it looks like only cosmetic so won't have anything to do with it. Sort of sounded like he'd source a used intercooler if it is shown to be leaking when I mentioned I doubt the warranty would pay out for a turbo with the intercooler in the state it is.
Edited by Boydie88 on Thursday 18th January 09:48
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