BMW M140i stolen off driveway - Cheltenham
Discussion
cossy400 said:
So the stolen and recovered bit then that will not be on any database? or effect its resale value??
Stolen and recovered is a description applied to vehicles once they’re written off by the insurer. My car was stolen in Jan this year, if it’s ever recovered then it will be recorded as such, as I was paid out in full soon after the theft. The OP’s car has been repaired and returned to him, it will not be recorded anywhere. It will originally have been on MIAFTR, witha stolen marker but that marker will either have been removed, or will be very soon. It will never have been on there as a write off, because it never has been. TooMany2cvs said:
cossy400 said:
So the stolen and recovered bit then that will not be on any database?
Not if the insurer repaired it, rather than write it off, no. That's kinda the whole "write-off" thing encapsulated.I merely asked if it would be on any database.
As to me it seems abit strange that you can now buy a car that's had is arse handed to it by joy rider, get it back have it fixed and there be no record of it.
Yet im sure that it was before?
cossy400 said:
Ive not mentioned "write off" in my question so why are you bringing it up?
I merely asked if it would be on any database.
As to me it seems abit strange that you can now buy a car that's had is arse handed to it by joy rider, get it back have it fixed and there be no record of it.
Yet im sure that it was before?
It’s always been like that. I merely asked if it would be on any database.
As to me it seems abit strange that you can now buy a car that's had is arse handed to it by joy rider, get it back have it fixed and there be no record of it.
Yet im sure that it was before?
cossy400 said:
Ive not mentioned "write off" in my question so why are you bringing it up?
Because that's kinda the whole point.cossy400 said:
I merely asked if it would be on any database.
And the answer is that it'll be on the database of write-offs if it's been written off, which it hasn't been, because the insurance have repaired it rather than write it off...cossy400 said:
As to me it seems abit strange that you can now buy a car that's had is arse handed to it by joy rider, get it back have it fixed and there be no record of it.
Because it's been fixed by the insurer, not written off. cossy400 said:
Yet im sure that it was before?
The only change is that the lower two classes of write-offs have had the dividing line moved a bit, to reflect actual damage (Structural or Not) rather than simply relative values (Damage more or less than value).Gavia said:
cossy400 said:
So the stolen and recovered bit then that will not be on any database? or effect its resale value??
Stolen and recovered is a description applied to vehicles once they’re written off by the insurer. My car was stolen in Jan this year, if it’s ever recovered then it will be recorded as such, as I was paid out in full soon after the theft. The OP’s car has been repaired and returned to him, it will not be recorded anywhere. It will originally have been on MIAFTR, witha stolen marker but that marker will either have been removed, or will be very soon. It will never have been on there as a write off, because it never has been. Only those with full access to MIAFTR will be able to see it.
Gavia said:
“Cat D for example”is a load of b
ks for the exact reasons I’ve already stated. Why even mention it? They only get categorised when they’re written off. This car wasn’t written off so it won’t have been categorised. Its resale value will not be affected, as there is no history of the repair on a publicly available database.
Cats C and D were removed last year and replaced with Cats N and S for non-structural and structural to make it easier for the public to understand them. Cats A and B continue to exist.
Off topic slightly but if Cat A and B persist, then how on earth is Cat N and S supposed to be more intuitive to the general public? At least A, B, C, D has ordinality learned by rote which would lend itself to meaning that C is worse than D.ks for the exact reasons I’ve already stated. Why even mention it? They only get categorised when they’re written off. This car wasn’t written off so it won’t have been categorised. Its resale value will not be affected, as there is no history of the repair on a publicly available database. Cats C and D were removed last year and replaced with Cats N and S for non-structural and structural to make it easier for the public to understand them. Cats A and B continue to exist.
Durzel said:
Off topic slightly but if Cat A and B persist, then how on earth is Cat N and S supposed to be more intuitive to the general public? At least A, B, C, D has ordinality learned by rote which would lend itself to meaning that C is worse than D.
Because nobody understands the difference between a C and a D and I include insurers in that! Whereas structural and non structural is fairly obvious Fellow Cheltenhamist here. It's sad to hear about this sort of crime happening locally!
Where in the country was your car eventually found?
My housemate's miserable banger was broken in to and pushed 30 meters down the road into a wall recently – though that was presumably a drunk/chav rather than an organised crim!
Where in the country was your car eventually found?
My housemate's miserable banger was broken in to and pushed 30 meters down the road into a wall recently – though that was presumably a drunk/chav rather than an organised crim!
MrT8064 said:
Fellow Cheltenhamist here. It's sad to hear about this sort of crime happening locally!
Where in the country was your car eventually found?
My housemate's miserable banger was broken in to and pushed 30 meters down the road into a wall recently – though that was presumably a drunk/chav rather than an organised crim!
Or a neighbour didn't like it bringing the street down..... Many an argument has been caused by people keeping old cars in typical wannabe middle class suburban streets.Where in the country was your car eventually found?
My housemate's miserable banger was broken in to and pushed 30 meters down the road into a wall recently – though that was presumably a drunk/chav rather than an organised crim!
Lando said:
It discovered in a very PH way..! Basically whichever scumbags stole it had false plates ready, and put them on the car on the driveway. The plates they used (cloned from a grey 118d) were off a 15 plate vehicle. Some excellent car nerd spotted the car and realised that the model was too new for the plates. They phoned it into 101, who arranged to get the false plates on cover.
This = millions of personalised registrations, surprised 101 paid any attention.lyonspride said:
MrT8064 said:
Fellow Cheltenhamist here. It's sad to hear about this sort of crime happening locally!
Where in the country was your car eventually found?
My housemate's miserable banger was broken in to and pushed 30 meters down the road into a wall recently – though that was presumably a drunk/chav rather than an organised crim!
Or a neighbour didn't like it bringing the street down..... Many an argument has been caused by people keeping old cars in typical wannabe middle class suburban streets.Where in the country was your car eventually found?
My housemate's miserable banger was broken in to and pushed 30 meters down the road into a wall recently – though that was presumably a drunk/chav rather than an organised crim!
Unless its dripping all its oil on a shared driveway?, most vehicle orientated disputes would seem to be parking space related.
speedking31 said:
Lando said:
It discovered in a very PH way..! Basically whichever scumbags stole it had false plates ready, and put them on the car on the driveway. The plates they used (cloned from a grey 118d) were off a 15 plate vehicle. Some excellent car nerd spotted the car and realised that the model was too new for the plates. They phoned it into 101, who arranged to get the false plates on cover.
This = millions of personalised registrations, surprised 101 paid any attention.ETA: Shame for the OP the car was recovered. I wouldn't want the f
ker back after being tainted by those scumbag s.Kuji said:
lyonspride said:
MrT8064 said:
Fellow Cheltenhamist here. It's sad to hear about this sort of crime happening locally!
Where in the country was your car eventually found?
My housemate's miserable banger was broken in to and pushed 30 meters down the road into a wall recently – though that was presumably a drunk/chav rather than an organised crim!
Or a neighbour didn't like it bringing the street down..... Many an argument has been caused by people keeping old cars in typical wannabe middle class suburban streets.Where in the country was your car eventually found?
My housemate's miserable banger was broken in to and pushed 30 meters down the road into a wall recently – though that was presumably a drunk/chav rather than an organised crim!
Unless its dripping all its oil on a shared driveway?, most vehicle orientated disputes would seem to be parking space related.
tannhauser said:
speedking31 said:
Lando said:
It discovered in a very PH way..! Basically whichever scumbags stole it had false plates ready, and put them on the car on the driveway. The plates they used (cloned from a grey 118d) were off a 15 plate vehicle. Some excellent car nerd spotted the car and realised that the model was too new for the plates. They phoned it into 101, who arranged to get the false plates on cover.
This = millions of personalised registrations, surprised 101 paid any attention.ETA: Shame for the OP the car was recovered. I wouldn't want the f
ker back after being tainted by those scumbag s.Robatr0n said:
tannhauser said:
speedking31 said:
Lando said:
It discovered in a very PH way..! Basically whichever scumbags stole it had false plates ready, and put them on the car on the driveway. The plates they used (cloned from a grey 118d) were off a 15 plate vehicle. Some excellent car nerd spotted the car and realised that the model was too new for the plates. They phoned it into 101, who arranged to get the false plates on cover.
This = millions of personalised registrations, surprised 101 paid any attention.ETA: Shame for the OP the car was recovered. I wouldn't want the f
ker back after being tainted by those scumbag s.We walk among you.
speedking31 said:
Lando said:
It discovered in a very PH way..! Basically whichever scumbags stole it had false plates ready, and put them on the car on the driveway. The plates they used (cloned from a grey 118d) were off a 15 plate vehicle. Some excellent car nerd spotted the car and realised that the model was too new for the plates. They phoned it into 101, who arranged to get the false plates on cover.
This = millions of personalised registrations, surprised 101 paid any attention.speedking31 said:
Lando said:
It discovered in a very PH way..! Basically whichever scumbags stole it had false plates ready, and put them on the car on the driveway. The plates they used (cloned from a grey 118d) were off a 15 plate vehicle. Some excellent car nerd spotted the car and realised that the model was too new for the plates. They phoned it into 101, who arranged to get the false plates on cover.
This = millions of personalised registrations, surprised 101 paid any attention.Ask me how I know this is certainly the case.
My thicko brother bought a private place for my niece to go her first car. Not a new car but the plate is for a 2 year old car 66 plate. I told him you couldn’t do that but guess what dvla told him no. I so wanted to say I told you so but I thought best not to as he was spitting feathers at the time.
Edited by MB140 on Wednesday 25th April 15:18
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