New MOT rules from May 2018

[Alucidnation]

I think this has been covered before, but i don't think we had a draft...

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...

Time to replace those aftermarket HID lamps with the original halogens.

[davebem]

I cant seem to find much on summarising the changes for May, only that issues will be categorised: Dangerous, Majors and Minors, the latter being like advisories, Dangerous meaning the car should not be driven home.

[HazzaCrawf]

EML is now a fail, as is “contaminated” brake fluid

[Alucidnation]

Odd about the brake fluid, especially as the tester isn’t allowed/supposed to remove the cap.

[HazzaCrawf]

Alucidnation said:

Odd about the brake fluid, especially as the tester isn’t allowed/supposed to remove the cap.

Yep. MOT manual states that cap must not be removed; it applies to transparent reservoirs only. Also brake fluid below minimum is now only a minor fault, unless substantially lower than the minimum mark at which point it’s a “dangerous” fault

[PV7998]

There is a fairly significant (to me at least) change......the new manual say that MOT won't be required on anything 40 years old or more, whereas at present the rules are that only anything registered before 1960 is MOT exempt.

This will exempt anything registered between 1960 and 1967, which apparently is about 293000 vehicles.

I understand that the effective date for these changes is 20 May 2018.

[CAPP0]

PV7998 said:

There is a fairly significant (to me at least) change......the new manual say that MOT won't be required on anything 40 years old or more, whereas at present the rules are that only anything registered before 1960 is MOT exempt.

This will exempt anything registered between 1960 and 1967, which apparently is about 293000 vehicles.

I understand that the effective date for these changes is 20 May 2018.

Surely anything registered before May 1978 is then exempt?

[SMB]

CAPP0 said:

PV7998 said:

There is a fairly significant (to me at least) change......the new manual say that MOT won't be required on anything 40 years old or more, whereas at present the rules are that only anything registered before 1960 is MOT exempt.

This will exempt anything registered between 1960 and 1967, which apparently is about 293000 vehicles.

I understand that the effective date for these changes is 20 May 2018.

Surely anything registered before May 1978 is then exempt?

It will only be exempt if it's declared by the owner to be a vehicle of historic interest which also means it has to not be modified from its original spec. So something modified significantly like a replacement bigger engine etc would still require testing. Also it would still be expected to be roadworthy.

[CAPP0]

SMB said:

CAPP0 said:

PV7998 said:

There is a fairly significant (to me at least) change......the new manual say that MOT won't be required on anything 40 years old or more, whereas at present the rules are that only anything registered before 1960 is MOT exempt.

This will exempt anything registered between 1960 and 1967, which apparently is about 293000 vehicles.

I understand that the effective date for these changes is 20 May 2018.

Surely anything registered before May 1978 is then exempt?

It will only be exempt if it's declared by the owner to be a vehicle of historic interest which also means it has to not be modified from its original spec. So something modified significantly like a replacement bigger engine etc would still require testing. Also it would still be expected to be roadworthy.

Well 3 of my bikes are 1960, 1976 & 1977 and those are standard so I guess they qualify. So you have to declare them somehow first?

[PV7998]

Apologies.....maths is not my strong point.

I got the information from: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-new... ..... which if I'd read it fully makes it clear that as of 20 May 2018 pre 1977 cars will be MOT exempt

To qualify it needs to be registered as a historic vehicle......my 1966 car is anyway (and was when I got it) so I'm not sure about the procedure to get it registered as such.

Apparently one of the aims is to harmonise tax exemption with MOT exemption.

Edited by PV7998 on Sunday 21st January 17:52

[Sa Calobra]

The EML - Thatll remove many of the mini cabbers in my area.

[devnull]

It’s not a proper cab unless the dash is lit up like a Christmas tree.

[grumpy52]

Getting close to the German standard for MOT or their equivalent, but they do test your brake fluid .
The end of the " such and such light is on but doesn't effect the running "
The manufacturer declared emissions requirement might frighten a few ! Especially the mapped and Barried crowd .

[Red Devil]

A question for the PH hive mind.

Introduction page 8 of 11 Section 13 Extensively Modified Vehicles said:

This exemption does not apply to vehicles with minor modifications. Therefore, a car fitted with rally
style seats, body kit and a sports steering wheel would not be exempt from the requirement to have
a driver’s airbag where one was fitted as standard equipment.

Is this going to kill the aftermarket sector (e.g. Momo/OMP/Nardi/etc)?
It's one of the most common mods out there: way more than seats or body kits.

[Mr Tidy]

HazzaCrawf said:

EML is now a fail, as is “contaminated” brake fluid

That's a bit of a worry - is EML a failure on amber, or only on red?

I have a car that throws up an amber EML from time to time for cats, but passes emissions tests every time regardless!

[Zoobeef]

The reverse light is only cars after 2009 and the front fogs is cars from this year.

My A4 B6 has never had an engine check light appear when you turn the ignition on. When you do a lamp test it will light although it went into limp mode the other week and didn't light then so it must be faulty. Not sure how to fix it yet though.

[Strudul]

Red Devil said:

A question for the PH hive mind.

Introduction page 8 of 11 Section 13 Extensively Modified Vehicles said:

This exemption does not apply to vehicles with minor modifications. Therefore, a car fitted with rally
style seats, body kit and a sports steering wheel would not be exempt from the requirement to have
a driver’s airbag where one was fitted as standard equipment.

Is this going to kill the aftermarket sector (e.g. Momo/OMP/Nardi/etc)?
It's one of the most common mods out there: way more than seats or body kits.

There's 4 possibilities:
- They ignore the rule and use a friendly MOT tester
- They ignore the rule and swap back to the OEM wheel for MOT
- They refit the OEM wheel
- They fit a cage and harness, re-classing the car as having "major" modifications and removing the requirement to have a driver's airbag


To be fair, no airbag without a cage and harness is stupid, so it's for the best.

[457892345]

Hope these are still legal.

http://www.mstyle.co.uk/bmw-1-series/e82-and-e88/l...

[98elise]

Mr Tidy said:

HazzaCrawf said:

EML is now a fail, as is “contaminated” brake fluid

That's a bit of a worry - is EML a failure on amber, or only on red?

I have a car that throws up an amber EML from time to time for cats, but passes emissions tests every time regardless!

I can see a business opportunity in "remapping" dash warning lights so that they pass an MOT regardless.

[surveyor_101]

HazzaCrawf said:

EML is now a fail, as is “contaminated” brake fluid

Tosh anyway, they need to audit MOT test stations as a car can fail on many things at one garage and get advisories or nothing at another.

Seen cars with EML, Airbag light, german pressed plates, no car or decat noted etc as an advisory on many mots.