New MOT rules from May 2018
Discussion
surveyor_101 said:
Tosh anyway, they need to audit MOT test stations as a car can fail on many things at one garage and get advisories or nothing at another.
Seen cars with EML, Airbag light, german pressed plates, no car or decat noted etc as an advisory on many mots.
What gets me is when you get advisories that don't need attention, then take the car to the same testing station a year later only for those advisories to magically go away!Seen cars with EML, Airbag light, german pressed plates, no car or decat noted etc as an advisory on many mots.
ElectricPics said:
What gets me is when you get advisories that don't need attention, then take the car to the same testing station a year later only for those advisories to magically go away!
Agreed, I've had some of them but I think I can trump that!A couple of months ago my car passed it's MOT however had an 'advisory' that one of the tyres was DANGEROUS, written in capital letters. So how come it passed with one of the most important parts of the car in a dangerous condition????
[PS for the pedants out there, the tyre has now been changed!]
Breadvan72 said:
Ye olde heapes older than 40 MOT exempt, I see. I am not sure this is a fab idea, but I suppose it reduces hassle.
To be honest i am a lot less worried about this idea now that the prices of many of these cars are beyond the reach of the 'ball of baling twine and a few old welded coke cans' compared to 10 years ago. The 40 year exemption rule is interesting as the criteria of 'being historic' applies so having a 40 year old rust bucket may not qualify.
The question is who decides a vehicle is historic? I would suggest this is the DVSA and not the owner as the registration document will need changing.
I can see a lot of arguments about this point particularly something like justifying a historic rally car is actually historic despite extension modification.
The question is who decides a vehicle is historic? I would suggest this is the DVSA and not the owner as the registration document will need changing.
I can see a lot of arguments about this point particularly something like justifying a historic rally car is actually historic despite extension modification.
This was all gone through at length over 6 months ago in the classics forums. Hardly anybody thinks it is a good idea but most MoT stations don't know how to test an old car properly. No fog lamps, seat belts, airbags and sometimes rod brakes! Once a car gets to historic status (40 yrs old), it's a simple paper exercise.And it has to be the previous completed year.
From April 2018, cars registered BEFORE 1st Jan 1978 will be VED and MoT exempt. Uness they're heavily modified that is, but that's aw hole other can of worms.
People forget having no MoT is quite a minor offence. That's why you don't get a reminder. It's a civil offence attracting a fine. Driving an unroadworthy car however (shot brakes or bald tyres) is a serious offence and get you a big fine and points.
From April 2018, cars registered BEFORE 1st Jan 1978 will be VED and MoT exempt. Uness they're heavily modified that is, but that's aw hole other can of worms.
People forget having no MoT is quite a minor offence. That's why you don't get a reminder. It's a civil offence attracting a fine. Driving an unroadworthy car however (shot brakes or bald tyres) is a serious offence and get you a big fine and points.
Breadvan72 said:
Nope, it's just a matter of age. There is no qualitative judgment about historic. That is just a word used by DVLA to describe cars that qualify for age related exemptions.
The wording in the draft document says 'some vehicles of historical interest' which would indicate a qualative element to the historical status of a vehicle. The change to historic class still has to go through the DVLA and when I went through this for a 1970 mini it needed a visit to DVSA office to get signed off.surveyor_101 said:
a.lex said:
f course, "german pressed plates" aren't illegal, unless they're actually off a car registered in Germany...
They are when not bs marked and postcoded.The ones I see sometimes are german font and eu symbol.
a.lex said:
surveyor_101 said:
a.lex said:
f course, "german pressed plates" aren't illegal, unless they're actually off a car registered in Germany...
They are when not bs marked and postcoded.The ones I see sometimes are german font and eu symbol.
Red Devil said:
Incorrect: it's not all. Some do not require such markings. See - http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2001/561/schedu... - Part 3 A & B.2
You mean pre 1973?surveyor_101 said:
Shaoxter said:
Whew, looks like my decatted 1994 imported MR2 Turbo is safe then... (I think)
I was under the impression Jan 1992 onwards you would need a cat. But according to the flow chart on page 100 of that document, if the car is pre Aug 1995 and there isn't an "Exact match in EGA database or the In-service Emissions book" then it's eligible for a non-cat test
History of "historic": Quite a few years ago, cars over a certain age (I think it was 25 years) were exempted from VED. IIRC, after an initial rolling exemption, the exemption was fixed at a date in the early 70s. Then a few years ago a 40 year rolling VED exemption started. A slightly daft additional measure was to allow cars to have black plates that could never have had them when new, but never mind that. Now the MoT exemption is to be set at 40 years. E Type or Allegro, it matters not - car s old enough are historic.
By the way, a few years ago, PH and other car fora were awash with doom and gloom threads asserting confidently that classic cars would be abolished by the evil EU. In fact the contrary has occurred, and it has become easier to own classic cars.
By the way, a few years ago, PH and other car fora were awash with doom and gloom threads asserting confidently that classic cars would be abolished by the evil EU. In fact the contrary has occurred, and it has become easier to own classic cars.
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