Question about the street idiot.

Question about the street idiot.

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ashleyman

6,987 posts

100 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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If you’re up for a fight and can hold your own. Get him so wound up he lashes out and then anything you do after is most probably self defence.

Just don’t do what I did and not predict his 14 mates wouldn’t jump in and get in some blows when the fight started.

Boosted LS1

21,188 posts

261 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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Willy Nilly said:
Smokehead said:
Sounds like the type who would only understand basic commands, like a smack in the mouth. Gang up with a few neighbours and put the fear of god into him.
This. He will not be negotiated with, no matter what avenue you choose he will continue. Give him a good shoeing and it will almost certainly stop.
I have to agree with this.

Boosted LS1

21,188 posts

261 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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Byker28i said:
Photos everytime and sent to the landlord, everytime. Make it the landlords issue, get the neighbours to do the same.
Explain he does it deliberately then never answers the door.

Landlord will get pissed off.
He'll probably be on a short term tenancy to.

Boosted LS1

21,188 posts

261 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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Douglas Quaid said:
I had a problem with a neighbour when he was drunk one night. I went round the next day prepared to fight him if necessary as he was aggressive. I didn’t want to do that obviously but I was prepared to do it if I had to and if he started swinging. I couldn’t live there if I didn’t as I would have been constantly stressed. I knocked on the door and said I was there to sort things out, we talked it through and shook hands in the end. Problem solved.

I think you need to do the same. Knock on his door and have a talk to him just the two of you. Be prepared for him to swing at you but don’t make the first move. If you don’t do this you’ll never relax while you live there. He sounds a tt but you need to face up to him. Good luck.
How many times have you had to do this?

TobyLerone

1,128 posts

145 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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Ructions said:
Four flat tyres might soften his cough.
What are the chances that you've got 4 screws in the sidewall... hehe

Seriously though, good luck OP. Unless you're double hard and powerfully built, any violence is likely to come back 10 fold. Even if you battered him, he's probably got scumbag mates who will burst in through your door at 3am and fk up everyone and everything in your house. Smash his car, or damage it any way, yours is likely to get set alight.

Hopefully your landlord can get shot of him sooner than later. Failing that, I quite like the idea of the dollies to roll good car into the middle of the road, then call the police to get it taken away, ha!

To those here who are mouthing off about how they'd fk him up... Get a grip! You're probably the pansies who hide behind your mum's net curtain looking at him blocking your drives!


Greendubber

13,222 posts

204 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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Tony427 said:
Red 4 said:
RE; Tony 427.

A Chief Constable's bag man won't deal with something like this.

By all means send a letter - but it will just get sent straight to Division.

Inspector will delegate. Sergeant will delegate. Neighbourhood PC or PCSO will deal.

I'd suggest looking on your force website and seeing which neighbourhood officer is directly responsible for your area.

Contact them direct. Explain it's on-going and getting worse. Say you're worried. Say it's not just a parking issue. Say you feel intimidated if you do.

You want to speak to the person who is going to deal with it.
Nobody at HQ will.
Well , it certainly worked for me.

I firstly went down your preferred route. Didn't work. Nothing achieved. " Well no-one's been hurt yet" was the response from the local police.

So I also suppose the letter from the Chief Constable's "assistant" was a figment of my imagination then. And the phone calls.

So the letter wasn't sent straight to Division. The inspector didn't delegate. He took control. st flows downhill remember so he had it raining on him from above. We are now on first name terms.

I was given an excellent DC contact to handle the case who still keeps me updated on events almost 3 years later. Again first name terms.

And the "perp" is still behind bars.

It appears that the OP also has already gone down your route . That didn't work either. It made it worse.

Its up to the OP whose advice he wants to take, but your's has already failed and mine worked for me.

Happy Procedures,

Tony



Edited by Tony427 on Friday 26th January 12:52
What did the perp do?

Sounds like there is a lot more to it than the OPs situation if a DC is involved and someone went down the steps for it.....

Boosted LS1

21,188 posts

261 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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Sa Calobra said:
or be threatened.
If a monster with intent arrived on your doorstep you'd have a very fast rethink about that.

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

133 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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He probably wants to provoke a physical confrontation, don't give it to him. Play him by the book, keep reporting direct obstructions or threats to the police, keep a written log of all incidents, you can also report to the council anti-social behaviour team and encourage neighbours to do the same.

A practical suggestion, park your vehicles nose to tail with large gap to give you room to manoeuvre.

Eddieslofart

1,328 posts

84 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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I read that he has used bad language to your wife and her mother ?

So he’s extremely hard then. There is only one language that these types understand unfortunately, and once you do clump them, the law will work in their favour.

Personally, i think a quite chat without any audience for him to play up to will do the trick. Just explain to him that you realise he thinks he’s a bad lad, but he is infact more scared inside than he realises.

Bullies are bullies because they fear, so they attempt to project an image to mask this fear.

See through the image, talk to the child behind it.

rambo19

2,743 posts

138 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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Sadly, he will only understand a smack in the mouth.

surveyor

17,841 posts

185 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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We recently had a young chap move in with his girlfriend and baby. Did not drive, which seemed surprising having a baby, and it being a fairly expensive area - we suspected that his mother had fronted for him.

The couple had some magnificent rows - including threatening to kill each other.

His mate who picked him up to take him to work word charge around the road at not very sensible speeds. He did eventually rile me, as I was outside, and I had a word about his speed. Very defensive, asking where my f**ing speed camera was. I was forced to point out that the very fact he was currently picking up pieces of his under tray which he had just smashed on the curb due to his speed was a message..

Outside looked a mess too.

They've gone now - suspect the Landlord had enough. We have a chap with a rather nice Bentley instead....

Wills2

22,869 posts

176 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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Johnnytheboy said:
It's amazing how many hard people one encounters on the internet.

I'm a big chap and I wouldn't even consider starting a fight with someone, what with not being at school and everything.
I think there are plenty of blokes that would be ready to kick off if you called their wife a , whether they are hardmen or not.



Brads67

3,199 posts

99 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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A major problem nowadays is peoples reluctance to confront when really, that`s all that will work.

Being called an internet hardman, uncivilised, Powerfully built company director, etc etc, is basically people hiding the fact they don`t have the personality to do it themselves.

You don`t have to be a hardman to be pushed too far by someone abusing your wife.

Me ? I`d be burningly ashamed of myself if I failed to confront him face to face about it, regardless of the outcome.

dudleybloke

19,846 posts

187 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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Work the ribs.

DurianIceCream

999 posts

95 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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Brads67 said:
A major problem nowadays is peoples reluctance to confront when really, that`s all that will work..
I think that's because you can be prosecuted if you even use nasty words to someone. Assault charge does not even require physical contact to take place.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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OP....tell him he's really getting your dander up and you're likely to stand in his drive and jolly well sigh a lot.


Boosted LS1

21,188 posts

261 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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Whilst huffing and puffing.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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And possibly liberating a little fart....

elanfan

5,520 posts

228 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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20 years ago I lived on a modern estate with narrow roads. Neighbour opposite was having an extension built and one of the young labourers decided to start parking right opposite my driveway making it very difficult for me to reverse out. I had words with him and got abuse. This was happening every day. I rang my local police station and I was advised that obstruction is an offence but where it became interesting was I was to,d deliberate obstruction was actually arrestable - told my neighbour that if he parked there the next day I'd have him arrested. He didn't park there again

So you and your neighbours report him a few times and then insist he is arrested if he continues to do it.

Greendubber

13,222 posts

204 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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elanfan said:
20 years ago I lived on a modern estate with narrow roads. Neighbour opposite was having an extension built and one of the young labourers decided to start parking right opposite my driveway making it very difficult for me to reverse out. I had words with him and got abuse. This was happening every day. I rang my local police station and I was advised that obstruction is an offence but where it became interesting was I was to,d deliberate obstruction was actually arrestable - told my neighbour that if he parked there the next day I'd have him arrested. He didn't park there again

So you and your neighbours report him a few times and then insist he is arrested if he continues to do it.
Good luck with that......