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cmaguire said:
Red 4 said:
cmaguire said:
They have to serve the NIP on the registered keeper within 14 days.
Incorrect.Who would have thought it?
If you're going to try and give anyone on here advice though - at least be sure of your facts before you post.
You are constantly wrong. Unfortunately..
Have sent the following email; curious if they accept it or if they want an ink signature on piece of paper.
Thank you for the momentary panic and then considerable amusement provided by the subject notice stating that a BMW registered in my name was measured as driving at 94mph on 2 Feb 2018 at 20:45.
Where to start...
I am not the registered keeper of a BMW with the quoted registration. While I do own 3 BMWs none have a registration remotely similar. They're all on standard age related plates.
When I look up the quoted registration on the DVLA's tax and MOT site and on ASKMID the quoted registration shows as the registration of a V12 Ferrari.
On 2 Feb I was some 100 miles away all day. At 20:45 I was probably putting the finishing touches on dinner for my very hormonal/menopausal partner who remembers the evening all too well as she was rather hangry.
In a pinch I could probably find a receipt from the local Lidl time stamped around 19:00 - hardly the shopping destination of the typical Ferrari driver. And tarnishing the reputation of most BMW drivers as well.
I trust this is sufficient for you to search elsewhere for the particular miscreant you're after.
Thank you for the momentary panic and then considerable amusement provided by the subject notice stating that a BMW registered in my name was measured as driving at 94mph on 2 Feb 2018 at 20:45.
Where to start...
I am not the registered keeper of a BMW with the quoted registration. While I do own 3 BMWs none have a registration remotely similar. They're all on standard age related plates.
When I look up the quoted registration on the DVLA's tax and MOT site and on ASKMID the quoted registration shows as the registration of a V12 Ferrari.
On 2 Feb I was some 100 miles away all day. At 20:45 I was probably putting the finishing touches on dinner for my very hormonal/menopausal partner who remembers the evening all too well as she was rather hangry.
In a pinch I could probably find a receipt from the local Lidl time stamped around 19:00 - hardly the shopping destination of the typical Ferrari driver. And tarnishing the reputation of most BMW drivers as well.
I trust this is sufficient for you to search elsewhere for the particular miscreant you're after.
AW10 said:
Have sent the following email; curious if they accept it or if they want an ink signature on piece of paper.
Thank you for the momentary panic and then considerable amusement provided by the subject notice stating that a BMW registered in my name was measured as driving at 94mph on 2 Feb 2018 at 20:45.
Where to start...
I am not the registered keeper of a BMW with the quoted registration. While I do own 3 BMWs none have a registration remotely similar. They're all on standard age related plates.
When I look up the quoted registration on the DVLA's tax and MOT site and on ASKMID the quoted registration shows as the registration of a V12 Ferrari.
On 2 Feb I was some 100 miles away all day. At 20:45 I was probably putting the finishing touches on dinner for my very hormonal/menopausal partner who remembers the evening all too well as she was rather hangry.
In a pinch I could probably find a receipt from the local Lidl time stamped around 19:00 - hardly the shopping destination of the typical Ferrari driver. And tarnishing the reputation of most BMW drivers as well.
I trust this is sufficient for you to search elsewhere for the particular miscreant you're after.
You could have done the decent thing and waited a week.Thank you for the momentary panic and then considerable amusement provided by the subject notice stating that a BMW registered in my name was measured as driving at 94mph on 2 Feb 2018 at 20:45.
Where to start...
I am not the registered keeper of a BMW with the quoted registration. While I do own 3 BMWs none have a registration remotely similar. They're all on standard age related plates.
When I look up the quoted registration on the DVLA's tax and MOT site and on ASKMID the quoted registration shows as the registration of a V12 Ferrari.
On 2 Feb I was some 100 miles away all day. At 20:45 I was probably putting the finishing touches on dinner for my very hormonal/menopausal partner who remembers the evening all too well as she was rather hangry.
In a pinch I could probably find a receipt from the local Lidl time stamped around 19:00 - hardly the shopping destination of the typical Ferrari driver. And tarnishing the reputation of most BMW drivers as well.
I trust this is sufficient for you to search elsewhere for the particular miscreant you're after.
mickmcpaddy said:
The Rookie said:
Except it’s not job done is it, none of those says he doesn’t have information in his power to give.
As per my reply on Pepipoo, you have to make it clear you have no knowledge of the vehicle nor where you at the location at the time.
Even if its obviously a cock up by the police, leave it 14 days so they have no chance of getting their dirty filthy scummy little fingers on the correct persons money.As per my reply on Pepipoo, you have to make it clear you have no knowledge of the vehicle nor where you at the location at the time.
a) manage to conflate a VRM assigned to a Ferrari with a BMW (per the NiP)?
b) allocate it to the OP who, even if he drives a BMW, says he has never possessed a personalised plate?
a) could be a misread by someone in the process unit, but b) would require a second error.
What are the chances of that happening? One mistake maybe, but two??
Am I missing something obvious?
Red 4 said:
cmaguire said:
They have to serve the NIP on the registered keeper within 14 days.
Incorrect.The first NIP in the chain has to be served within 14 days of the offence, no exceptions. The one they sent out to the OP isn't a valid NIP so the first one is yet to be sent out, if the OP delays his reply by 14 days then it makes it impossible for the filth to send one out in time.
Whether the correct person in this episode is aware of his rights though is anyone's guess, I'm certain our money grabbing law enforcers will chance their arm still.
Red Devil said:
mickmcpaddy said:
The Rookie said:
Except it’s not job done is it, none of those says he doesn’t have information in his power to give.
As per my reply on Pepipoo, you have to make it clear you have no knowledge of the vehicle nor where you at the location at the time.
Even if its obviously a cock up by the police, leave it 14 days so they have no chance of getting their dirty filthy scummy little fingers on the correct persons money.As per my reply on Pepipoo, you have to make it clear you have no knowledge of the vehicle nor where you at the location at the time.
a) manage to conflate a VRM assigned to a Ferrari with a BMW (per the NiP)?
b) allocate it to the OP who, even if he drives a BMW, says he has never possessed a personalised plate?
a) could be a misread by someone in the process unit, but b) would require a second error.
What are the chances of that happening? One mistake maybe, but two??
Am I missing something obvious?
t scared of a chat with management without tea and biscuits about "performance".Edited by mickmcpaddy on Thursday 8th February 23:20
daveinhampshire said:
Not dissimilar to the failure by a process unit to take a widely publicised postal strike into consideration.Gidden v Chief Constable of Humberside
http://swarb.co.uk/gidden-v-chief-constable-of-hum...
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2009/292...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
AW10 said:
Have sent the following email; curious if they accept it or if they want an ink signature on piece of paper.
Thank you for the momentary panic and then considerable amusement provided by the subject notice stating that a BMW registered in my name was measured as driving at 94mph on 2 Feb 2018 at 20:45.
Where to start...
I am not the registered keeper of a BMW with the quoted registration. While I do own 3 BMWs none have a registration remotely similar. They're all on standard age related plates.
When I look up the quoted registration on the DVLA's tax and MOT site and on ASKMID the quoted registration shows as the registration of a V12 Ferrari.
On 2 Feb I was some 100 miles away all day. At 20:45 I was probably putting the finishing touches on dinner for my very hormonal/menopausal partner who remembers the evening all too well as she was rather hangry.
In a pinch I could probably find a receipt from the local Lidl time stamped around 19:00 - hardly the shopping destination of the typical Ferrari driver. And tarnishing the reputation of most BMW drivers as well.
I trust this is sufficient for you to search elsewhere for the particular miscreant you're after.
While they are unlikely to proceed, an email doesn't satisfy your legal obligations and you need to do it the old fashioned way to be sure.Thank you for the momentary panic and then considerable amusement provided by the subject notice stating that a BMW registered in my name was measured as driving at 94mph on 2 Feb 2018 at 20:45.
Where to start...
I am not the registered keeper of a BMW with the quoted registration. While I do own 3 BMWs none have a registration remotely similar. They're all on standard age related plates.
When I look up the quoted registration on the DVLA's tax and MOT site and on ASKMID the quoted registration shows as the registration of a V12 Ferrari.
On 2 Feb I was some 100 miles away all day. At 20:45 I was probably putting the finishing touches on dinner for my very hormonal/menopausal partner who remembers the evening all too well as she was rather hangry.
In a pinch I could probably find a receipt from the local Lidl time stamped around 19:00 - hardly the shopping destination of the typical Ferrari driver. And tarnishing the reputation of most BMW drivers as well.
I trust this is sufficient for you to search elsewhere for the particular miscreant you're after.
In addition you haven't actually told them you know nothing of the car/incident, just reasons why you may not, in fact it could be suggested its deliberate obfuscation.
So I’ve already had a reply and my NIP has been nipped in the bud. The Warwickshire Constabulary replied this morning; the number plate in question was previously on a car I have owned some 6 years and when they checked the reg they misread the PNC/DVLA database and assigned the NIP to the wrong car/person/record. Case now closed.
speedking31 said:
Just read the S172 carefully as IIRC there isn't a box to tick to say "I have no idea".
A response doesn't have to be limited to one of the available tick-boxes. The forms are designed like that so you feel shepherded into taking your punishment like a good little citizen without any fuss.
AW10 said:
Red 4 said:
Ferrari man has registered his car to you.
But as a BMW?So in this case, if the number was transferred from a Ferrari to a BMW on say the 31st Jan, it was flashed on 2nd Feb and recognised using up to date data as a BMW. If you then check it on WBAC or similar then the reg may be still recorded as the Ferrari. Even the government tax checker website doesn't guarantee to be real time.
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