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superflid said:
superflid said:
Remember the character on the "Fast show", the one in the pub who changed his mind all the time just to try and fit in.........
I have actually, I think thats you.
Ohh, that's such a nasty thing to say.
Always changing my mind, I used to think you were a troll. I now realise you are just a fool.
I'm not the one who described Pistonheads (Without having the nerve to actually name it....) as, to paraphrase, "Making my skin crawl".
Funky's thread
Then tries to make us believe he's a petrolhead.
Funky, if you seriously think that there is enough action to keep you alert on a lightly-trafficed motorway in good conditions at 70mph, then I think you need more training and experience.
Archetypal numptie.
I realised you were a fool the moment you posted, simple, like you.
superflid said:
deeps said:
funkyrobot said:
I don't intend to argue about this, because as I mentioned before they only catch speeders. How can you argue with that?
Therefore they are a tax (if you could call it that) on people who speed. The word 'tax' isn't really appropriate for this, the word 'fine' is much better.
It could in theory be labelled a stupidity tax, don't speed, don't get taxed. Simple. You speed, you know you are speeding, you get caught, you get fined.
The logic I apply is oh so easy, don't speed and don't get caught. Some people just fail to embrace this because they want to be right, even though it is very easy to understand.
Speeding is still a crime, even though people think it is a silly law. Would you be happy if burglary was thought of in this way and wasn't investigated or tackled because it is a silly law??
Why is there a need to speed in the first place?
>> Edited by funkyrobot on Monday 25th April 10:55
>> Edited by funkyrobot on Monday 25th April 10:56
Funky, I have some news that you may be interested in.
I've heard reliable reports that in an attempt to reduce bicycle fatalities, the government will soon be passing a law that will limit all non-motorised bicycles to 10 mph, of course they will be enforcing it strictly with the newly formed 'cycle safe camera partnership'.
Unfortunately, I think the law will be broke by most cyclists, well the stupid ones anyway, but what will your stance be?
Will you dare stand up for common sense, afterall 10 mph is safely exceedable when conditions permit, or will you obey those who know best?
The question I guess is, will you feel a need to speed and is it logical? It's not so easy.
Imagine getting caught at 12mph and having to pay them £120. ( it's double the normal amount as there are no panalty points ).
I think it will be a very big revenue earner or tax as you say, aslong as the cyclists dont kick up too much of a fuss that is. Many, like youself I assume, will just accept it and not break the law? It's oh so easy.
Any that dont and think it's a silly law will be investigated and tackled I'm sure.
>> Edited by deeps on Monday 25th April 22:10
Where will the limits be posted then?
I assume that with motor vehicle speed limits they will be higher in some areas than others?
Can't see this happening though because a bicycle speeding over the speed limit is a whole different ball game to a motorist speeding over the limit.
Maybe if they are trying to cut fatalities they can also address the element of bad cycling, just like they should be doing now with motorists (bad driving)??
They could bring in some harsh punishments for pavement cycling, jumping red lights etc. I would be for that.
Your answer should have been that if a speed limit were introduced for bicycles then you would happily adhere to it, as you insist we drivers should.
Why the difference?
The difference is about over a ton in weight.
S Works said:
Why is there a need to speed in the first place?
Because I want to get 'there' faster - a simple concept don't you think?
funkyrobot said:
...and as for road tax, well what I am taxed on my wages etc covers that.
Er, yeah right!? Well I'm "taxed on my wages etc." [sic] so does that exempt me from paying it too... and everyone else who has a car and pays income tax?
Nope, VED is extra and you know you pay it to have a motor vehicle, just like me.
Funky thinks I'm a fool. 
...and simple.
So if a car driver should obey the law because his vehicle weighs a ton more than a bicyle, is a scooter or moped rider free to break the law?
Should skinny burglars be free to plunder unpunished?
Should the police concentrate on catching fat shoplifters?
Sorry to mock, just back from a naked all-night drive in my Subaru and the Tequila and nose sherbert is just wearing off. As far as I can get, as fast as possible until the tank starts running dry. Then refuel and try to drain the tank before getting home.
You should try it one night, Jimi Hendrix or Led Zep at full volume completes the experience.
You really should live life to the full Funky, as a cyclist you'll probably not get as much of it as me. Dangerous place for bikes, our roads.
To get away with it, just stick someone elses number plate over yours. I've taken to writing down the reg numbers of every Bora diesel I see on my weekly drive through Lincolnshire and using them. All a gatso sees at night is a plate lit by it's flash!
Global warming, can't wait. If we lose the sea defences on the east coast I will have a shorter drive to reach my boat and better weather when I get there.
...and simple.
So if a car driver should obey the law because his vehicle weighs a ton more than a bicyle, is a scooter or moped rider free to break the law?
Should skinny burglars be free to plunder unpunished?
Should the police concentrate on catching fat shoplifters?
Sorry to mock, just back from a naked all-night drive in my Subaru and the Tequila and nose sherbert is just wearing off. As far as I can get, as fast as possible until the tank starts running dry. Then refuel and try to drain the tank before getting home.
You should try it one night, Jimi Hendrix or Led Zep at full volume completes the experience.
You really should live life to the full Funky, as a cyclist you'll probably not get as much of it as me. Dangerous place for bikes, our roads.
To get away with it, just stick someone elses number plate over yours. I've taken to writing down the reg numbers of every Bora diesel I see on my weekly drive through Lincolnshire and using them. All a gatso sees at night is a plate lit by it's flash!
Global warming, can't wait. If we lose the sea defences on the east coast I will have a shorter drive to reach my boat and better weather when I get there.
superflid said:
Funky thinks I'm a fool.
...and simple.
So if a car driver should obey the law because his vehicle weighs a ton more than a bicyle, is a scooter or moped rider free to break the law?
Should skinny burglars be free to plunder unpunished?
Should the police concentrate on catching fat shoplifters?
Sorry to mock, just back from a naked all-night drive in my Subaru and the Tequila and nose sherbert is just wearing off. As far as I can get, as fast as possible until the tank starts running dry. Then refuel and try to drain the tank before getting home.
You should try it one night, Jimi Hendrix or Led Zep at full volume completes the experience.
You really should live life to the full Funky, as a cyclist you'll probably not get as much of it as me. Dangerous place for bikes, our roads.
To get away with it, just stick someone elses number plate over yours. I've taken to writing down the reg numbers of every Bora diesel I see on my weekly drive through Lincolnshire and using them. All a gatso sees at night is a plate lit by it's flash!
Global warming, can't wait. If we lose the sea defences on the east coast I will have a shorter drive to reach my boat and better weather when I get there.
No burglar should be allowed to break the law, whether they are skinny or fat. And you know this.
So why should a speed limit be seen as a flexible law, and why should you be allowed to break that?
Who needs to drive fast on a public road to live life to the full? If thats all it takes to live life to the full then some people have a very sad life indeed!
boringrobot said:
Who needs to drive fast on a public road to live life to the full? If thats all it takes to live life to the full then some people have a very sad life indeed!
It is an experience, thus a part of life which must be undertaken to live life to the full.
There are many others which can also be enjoyed without affecting others.
You should really do something about your speeding fixation.
superfool said:
Who needs to drive fast on a public road to live life to the full? If thats all it takes to live life to the full then some people have a very sad life indeed!
It is an experience, thus a part of life which must be undertaken to live life to the full.
There are many others which can also be enjoyed without affecting others.
You should really do something about your speeding fixation.
Ha ha, so funny!
How about speeding on a track? Thats ok.
How can you honestly say that speeding on a public road is something you MUST do? Its not like you can get most journeys done at speed what with traffic levels and bad road designs etc.
I think you need to sort your speeding problem out. Hopefully the NIPs will do that.
iaint said:
This would be fine, but have you seen the level of training the public get at the moment to pass their driving tests??
Compare, contrast and discuss that with the level of training cyclists must receive before being allowed to clutter up our roads...
Ist true... they should at least be tested on "Cycle Craft"...before taking to road on regular commute.. although this does tell them to be assertive und cycle in the traffic
Und extols virtues of cycling mit trailer und panniers..
on trips to B-B -B & Q....
It does give some advice as to how to cycle mit care when towing... but cannot see me trying this up the hills around Borrowdale und Keswick und Applethwaite...und I would think twice in South Lakes area too.
But apart from this silly paragraph buried at back of the book und methinks he was trying out sense of humour here...book ist full of soundest advice und ist their equivalent of Road Craft!
Funkyrobot said:
How can you honestly say that speeding on a public road is something you MUST do?
Absolutely. Its in the blood. Any div can do it on a track. It simply MUST be done to alleviate tension, just like a good sesh with your girlfriend...
Funkyrobot said:
Its not like you can get most journeys done at speed what with traffic levels and bad road designs etc.
How worng you are! You havent obviously driven at anywhere near the speed limits if you think that.
Come for a ride with me, ill cure you of your speed aversion.
Funkyrobot said:
I think you need to sort your speeding problem out.
I dont have a speeding problem. You have a problem with speeding.
Funkyrobot said:
Hopefully the NIPs will do that.
Never happen baby, the number plates dont read very well by gatso when theyre flipped outa sight.
funkiest robotic one said:
No burglar should be allowed to break the law, whether they are skinny or fat. And you know this.
But the trouble ist Liebchen.... even you have CCTV footage in your house or office showing the little scrote nicking... it make no difference.
I think NTC made post on C+ over this when she was on the ol' war path in December. If you recall - ist vet. Most of the attacks on her seemed to be result of fact she owned up to using a naughty 4x4 for work purposes und a "sex-mobile!" as she referred to it on site -
for normal work Tame? Her? 
: 
Anyway - she did tell folks on there that her practice was broken into und she had fullest footage identifying scrote who did this... und in fairness to N Yorks - they took the film to view as this is major practice mit animal treatments locked in concealed safe on premises - but never copped them ... just a crime number. Und another cousin - silly enough to park herself inheart of Brunstromia... her CCTV footage copped yobs nicking her tractor. Given that the weird one there has thing about folks speeding on tractors (und she had jazzed it up to cut her big lawn faster
) Brainstorm's boyz did not turn up for days....und only gave crime number for insurance purpose...They had film identifying these yobs .. both cases und were not that interested. But burglaries happen all the time... und in general - police do very little.
Speed in your car und they move heaven und earth to get their £60.
funkiest robotic one said:
So why should a speed limit be seen as a flexible law, and why should you be allowed to break that?
Because there are instances when you will pick up undiscerned speed .. und you do this on push bikes too. I know when I free wheel down any hill on bike or even in car.... ist physics.
Und if someone ist driving at 5-10 mph below speed limit on flowing straight 30 mph road... ist nuisance to other road users. They overtake to continue at legal 28-30mph (though normal drivers will be 28-34 mph - fluctuate on these roads because of foot movement und road surface und even choice of tyre affects. But to complete overtake safely und move back to lane mit courtesy und space to slow driver - they will be pushed to at very least 6 mph above the 30 mph limit.
Und then .. there ist post my husband made on Paulie's site... where he really indirectly declared his truest feeling for me...when he broke sound barrier to get me to hospital when youngest was born. Was purrfectly safe - but these nannies class me as "at risk" because of past incident. But what do you do if waiting for ambulance ist slower than doing job yourself?
funkiest robotic one said:
Who needs to drive fast on a public road to live life to the full? If thats all it takes to live life to the full then some people have a very sad life indeed!
Ist not a case of driving very fast. I have not noted people driving overly above limit on urban roads.... about 4-5 mph above limit at most. Ist hardly speeding.
Und m/ways.... rest of EU ist mostly 81.25 mph, 93 mph (part of Italy - und noted drop in "incidente" on these stretches und are considering extending as result) und of course - unlimited A/bahn have less accident than limited ones ....
Und if so dangerous to drive above 70 mph - then we had better ban all UK licence holders from hiring cars und driving abroad mit immediate effect.
funkyrobot said:
How can you honestly say that speeding on a public road is something you MUST do? Its not like you can get most journeys done at speed what with traffic levels and bad road designs etc.
I think you need to sort your speeding problem out. Hopefully the NIPs will do that.
NIPS - SNIP (or SPIN backwards, depends on how you look at it)
They all go back, they all time out - its all arse and if more of Joe Public did it, the system would collapse. We are entitled to our day in court.
Speed? Its all relative mate. Most of my travelling is done above your oh so beloved limit, safely, quickly and smoothly. Saves me, oohhh an hour at a time, minimum, and a lot less stress. That time is put to very good use, doing things I enjoy, with people I like, rather than shuffling along like a no-brain conformist, snuffling diesel and petrol fumes from the car 1 yd in front, cos "speed at or below the limit must be safe innit".
D'OH!
funkyrobot said:
boringrobot said:
Who needs to drive fast on a public road to live life to the full? If thats all it takes to live life to the full then some people have a very sad life indeed!
It is an experience, thus a part of life which must be undertaken to live life to the full.
There are many others which can also be enjoyed without affecting others.
You should really do something about your speeding fixation.
How can you honestly say that speeding on a public road is something you MUST do? Its not like you can get most journeys done at speed what with traffic levels and bad road designs etc.
I think you need to sort your speeding problem out. Hopefully the NIPs will do that.
It's not a speeding "problem" that people have.
It's the stupid limits which are set to ensure maximum revenue.
If a person exceeds a stupidly low limit, it's not a problem with their driving, it's a problem with the limit. Do you understand?
Have you not yet learnt that it's safe driving that matters, not concentration on velocity.
Und Ja - funkiest robotic one - I can drive above speed limit at times on M6 (but Steviebabes - I do not do this at Shap when your van ist there... but cannot speak for rest of the time )(DOH! He will come back on here breathing fire from nostrils und accuse me of "manipulating system" Ist normal Liebchen - all of us do this - und you more than most mit your poor rithemtic skills - evidenced when you compile your stats....
Ist better for me und car if speed ist varied... I vary speed on any one UK journey form 65 mph to er..er...er....you are too young und innocent to know! Und Steviebabes will be asking Ian to patrol M6 in unmarked car in vague hope of copping me at it...if I admit to three figure number Which ist norm in Germany
)(DOH! He will come back on here breathing fire from nostrils und accuse me of "manipulating system" Ist normal Liebchen - all of us do this - und you more than most mit your poor rithemtic skills - evidenced when you compile your stats.... Ist better for me und car if speed ist varied... I vary speed on any one UK journey form 65 mph to er..er...er....you are too young und innocent to know!
Und Steviebabes will be asking Ian to patrol M6 in unmarked car in vague hope of copping me at it...if I admit to three figure number Which ist norm in Germany Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff