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jmsgld

Original Poster:

1,010 posts

177 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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I crawled past a marked police car at 75 on a dual carriageway and to my surprise got pulled over.

The guy was driving like an idiot, way too close to the car in front on the single carriageway leading up to dual, cut someone up on a roundabout, not someone I want to be near on the road...So I overtake him at a steady 75 on cruise he starts flashing his headlights so I disengage cruise and let it drop to 70 and on go the blue lights. I pull off the dual and into a layby on a blind bend. Anyway his reasoning was that his speedo was showing 78 therefore I must have been going over 80 to overtake him. I didn't want to get into an argument so just nodded appropriately whilst denying speeding. He even said that I can't have slowed when he flashed me as he didn't see any brake lights...

Retard then makes a 3 point turn on the blind bend and stalls part way through... made me chuckle.

He obviously didn't have any speed measuring device or he would have known my true speed. Should I have entered into an argument with him about the fact that he was wrong, or could he give me a ticket for speeding? Would it have held up in court?
There were 2 of them in the car...








SmoothCriminal

5,066 posts

200 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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Go past a police car above the speed limit deserve everything you get.

Fair enough if they're crawling at 50 or 65 but over the limit is taking the piss.

pinchmeimdreamin

9,966 posts

219 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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you should have Brake checked him wink

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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SmoothCriminal said:
Go past a police car above the speed limit deserve everything you get.

Fair enough if they're crawling at 50 or 65 but over the limit is taking the piss.
Not really taking the piss imo. I’ve overtaken police cars doing 70 on the motorway many times and never had an issue.

jmsgld

Original Poster:

1,010 posts

177 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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I have overtaken so may police cars at 75 on a dual carriageway or motorway and never thought anything of it, first time I've been pulled over for it.

poing

8,743 posts

201 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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SmoothCriminal said:
Go past a police car above the speed limit deserve everything you get.

Fair enough if they're crawling at 50 or 65 but over the limit is taking the piss.
He went past at an indicated 75 so likely wasn't over the speed limit.

OP, you did the right thing because this cop was one of the bad ones so there is no point arguing with them unless you have a lot of spare time.

surveyor

17,841 posts

185 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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Similar thing in Wales a few moons ago. I disagreed with him, but equally said I'm not going to argue with you.

By way of pissing me off he gave me a producer, which as it was a company car was a pain in the arse. He did not like it when I did not know who the registered keeper was. Could have been my employer, their parent company, the fleet management company, or the actual lease company....

SS2.

14,465 posts

239 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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jmsgld said:
Would it have held up in court?
Almost certainly.

Ross_T_Boss

163 posts

219 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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Doesn't surprise me, if you see PC Plod driving like a tool you'd best not push it, be over cautious. He's likely to measure you but his own yard stick to make a point, US Sheriff mentality (been pulled by plenty of those in my time, again mostly fine but some real bad eggs, we have it good over here). Unless you have a dash cam, in which case goad him into a court appearance and enjoy making him look like a tit, if you've got the time on your hands.

Traffic cops are a different breed and you'll likely have no problems as they tend to apply common sense. Motorways are usually pretty safe.

That said I did have one incident on the M4 some years ago with a bell end in a marked up PoS (not trafpol) sitting at an indicated 70 in lane 2, aggressively re-passing anyone that went by and brake testing them down. Fortunately for my own good I was unable to get near the front of the pack, my younger self would have been an idiot and taken one for the team.

LeoSayer

7,308 posts

245 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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jmsgld said:
I have overtaken so may police cars at 75 on a dual carriageway or motorway and never thought anything of it, first time I've been pulled over for it.
It was only a matter of time.



cmaguire

3,589 posts

110 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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Why would you think the Police are any less susceptible to brainwashing than other members of the Public? Since they dumbed down the entrance requirements the Police can now be just as stupid as the public.

LosingGrip

7,822 posts

160 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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cmaguire said:
Why would you think the Police are any less susceptible to brainwashing than other members of the Public? Since they dumbed down the entrance requirements the Police can now be just as stupid as the public.
Dumbed down? You aware there are more entry requirements than before right?

vonhosen

40,240 posts

218 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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LosingGrip said:
cmaguire said:
Why would you think the Police are any less susceptible to brainwashing than other members of the Public? Since they dumbed down the entrance requirements the Police can now be just as stupid as the public.
Dumbed down? You aware there are more entry requirements than before right?
Perhaps he is talking about the height requirement.

cmaguire

3,589 posts

110 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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Clue me in. What are the educational requirements now? And then.

I will try not to be dismissive about the whole GCE/GCSE thing.

Maybe everybody is just more stupid now.

theboss

6,919 posts

220 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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I overtook a marked up car at 90 once. The bugger made it more awkward than it needed to be, by matching my speed and sitting next to me for several miles.

It was a BTP marked car with two guys in it - not sure if they are able or were just disinclined to get involved with a speeding offence. I figured they were probably travelling between two rail sites and didn’t want to stop for anything else.

ghe13rte

1,860 posts

117 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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jmsgld said:
I have overtaken so may police cars at 75 on a dual carriageway or motorway and never thought anything of it, first time I've been pulled over for it.
On what grounds do you think passing a police car at 75 in a 70 is not something that can be prosecuted?
If there was 2 officers in the car then their opinion is sufficient evidence of your excess speed. The fact that they have a speedometer available to them is evidence to support their opinion.
The accuracy of their speedometer and yours will come into question but some police cars have calibrated speedometers so it may well be accurate.
You admit speeding, so just say “yes I was speeding, but it was only a little bit and I was trying to speed past some poor drivers for my own safety...oh and I usually drive past police cars that are being driven at 70 in a 70 Limit”
See how that goes.
Doh!

KevinCamaroSS

11,641 posts

281 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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cmaguire said:
Clue me in. What are the educational requirements now? And then.

I will try not to be dismissive about the whole GCE/GCSE thing.

Maybe everybody is just more stupid now.
You do know that the police would like every officer to be educated to degree level don't you?

HantsRat

2,369 posts

109 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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Over take police car in excess of speed limit..
Gets pulled over and educated..
No ticket given..
Posts on internet complaining ..

rolleyes

cmaguire

3,589 posts

110 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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KevinCamaroSS said:
You do know that the police would like every officer to be educated to degree level don't you?
No I don't, but how does what they would like matter in any way?

Tony Blair thought (does he still?) that 50% of pupils should go on to University. Unfortunately he didn't appear to understand that the 50% aren't intelligent enough to manage it. So we dumb down and devalue the degree qualification for everybody, including the 10-20% that were clever enough to go and the employers that subsequently get lumbered with the other 30% that can't spell or add up (amongst other things).

cmaguire

3,589 posts

110 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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HantsRat said:
Over take police car in excess of speed limit..
Gets pulled over and educated..
No ticket given..
Posts on internet complaining ..

rolleyes
75 though?
That really does make one think they really ought to have something better to do.
And the concept of 'educating' the OP just sounds patronising.

This really isn't a positive thing.