What road traffic law would you introduce?

What road traffic law would you introduce?

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chemistry

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2,152 posts

109 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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I was thinking (ranting...) the other day that if I were in charge (shout) and could introduce one new road traffic law, it would be to allow a left turn at red traffic lights when safe to do so.

Overall, I can see very few reasons not to transplant the "Right turn on red" law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turn_on_red) from the USA etc. to here. For comparatively little cost (i.e. signs put up at the minority of junctions for which a left on red would be unsafe), we could avoid people sitting pointlessly at red traffic lights, which in turn would speed up traffic flows, reduce pollution, reduce stress and generally benefit all road users. Even better, it would be relatively safe to introduce, as folks who were unaware of the new law would just continue to stay put at a red light when turning left.

What law would you introduce?

Jer_1974

1,507 posts

193 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Undertaking.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Periodic retests for all driving licence holders. Doesn't have to be a full test, as for a learner looking for a full licence - it can be a shortened test.

First retest to be 1yr after losing the L-plates.
Then after another 2yrs (so 3yrs from first pass), then 5yrs (8yrs from first pass), then every decade until age 70, 75, 78, 80, then every year.
Fail, and you can re-take the full learner test within two months.
Fail that, and you're back on L plates - and, when you pass and regain your full licence, you're back to the start of the retest schedule.

And, yes, the driver pays a fee that ensures the costs are covered.

Buster73

5,061 posts

153 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Jer_1974 said:
Undertaking.
Must have changed the law up in the NE already , see it everyday , by coincidence the same time I see someone drifting along in the middle or outside lane , funny that .

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Jer_1974 said:
Undertaking.
Isn't explicitly illegal.

SCEtoAUX

4,119 posts

81 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Driving a Honda Jazz on a public highway.

Woody John

759 posts

73 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Indicators fitted mandatory on all German marques.
Distance sensors fitted to all German marques to ensure they stay minimum 2 seconds behind the vehicle in front.
Black box fitted to all German marques.



Speed addicted

5,574 posts

227 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Woody John said:
Indicators fitted mandatory on all German marques.
Distance sensors fitted to all German marques to ensure they stay minimum 2 seconds behind the vehicle in front.
Black box fitted to all German marques.
Like Vauxhall for instance?

I'd introduce re-testing every 5 years or so, not a full driving test but a skills update. That way people would need to be better drivers and properly crap ones could be weeded out, while normal people would have a reason to think about their driving more.



Fort Jefferson

8,237 posts

222 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Modify all cars so your horn won't work unless your brake lights are on.

caiss4

1,880 posts

197 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Periodic retests for all driving licence holders. Doesn't have to be a full test, as for a learner looking for a full licence - it can be a shortened test.

First retest to be 1yr after losing the L-plates.
Then after another 2yrs (so 3yrs from first pass), then 5yrs (8yrs from first pass), then every decade until age 70, 75, 78, 80, then every year.
Fail, and you can re-take the full learner test within two months.
Fail that, and you're back on L plates - and, when you pass and regain your full licence, you're back to the start of the retest schedule.

And, yes, the driver pays a fee that ensures the costs are covered.
As the current L-test is just 40 mins long I'm not sure what value would be derived from a shortened test. To present any driver with a reasonable range of potential hazards I think it's already at the margins.

Add to that current lead times for L-tests I think resources are at full stretch already (notwithstanding the funding).

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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caiss4 said:
As the current L-test is just 40 mins long I'm not sure what value would be derived from a shortened test. To present any driver with a reasonable range of potential hazards I think it's already at the margins.
Perhaps.

caiss4 said:
Add to that current lead times for L-tests I think resources are at full stretch already (notwithstanding the funding).
With the income coming in, they can increase the number of test centres and the number of examiners.

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

247 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Isn't explicitly illegal.
When I lived down south I used to probably undertake more cars than I overtook.

I found you made better progress sticking to the slow lane on the M1 and just popping out to the middle lane to overtake trucks and the like.


Dixy

2,921 posts

205 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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I would like to see the rules changed to make indicator lights clearly separate from other lights. Indicators hidden in the centre of brake lights and front indicators so swept around the side of the car and swamped by DLRs. The person driving a German car may as well not bother indicating.

2Btoo

3,426 posts

203 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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anonymous said:
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That there is a vote winner for me.

caiss4

1,880 posts

197 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
caiss4 said:
As the current L-test is just 40 mins long I'm not sure what value would be derived from a shortened test. To present any driver with a reasonable range of potential hazards I think it's already at the margins.
Perhaps.
Just expressing an opinion

TooMany2cvs said:
caiss4 said:
Add to that current lead times for L-tests I think resources are at full stretch already (notwithstanding the funding).
With the income coming in, they can increase the number of test centres and the number of examiners.
To respond to that I'd need to understand whether the current testing environment is self-funding and I have no idea. To ask a sizeable proportion of the population to stump up say £50 for a reduced test every year/3 years/5 years etc to keep their licence may or may not mean that additional examiners and facilities could be viable but my experience suggests that is unlikely.

glenrobbo

35,259 posts

150 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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On motorways, Keep to the left hand lane except when overtaking.

Penalty for non-compiance:
the offending car is crushed.
With the driver in it.

kowalski655

14,643 posts

143 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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caiss4 said:
To respond to that I'd need to understand whether the current testing environment is self-funding and I have no idea. To ask a sizeable proportion of the population to stump up say £50 for a reduced test every year/3 years/5 years etc to keep their licence may or may not mean that additional examiners and facilities could be viable but my experience suggests that is unlikely.
Probably not but you would hope that there would be a reduction in accidents, and so lower costs to emergency services,NHS, fewer jams,etc, through increasing the skill levels of drivers,and hopefully weeding out the idiots

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Increase the speed limit for artics on the motorway, and make manufacturers add a "push to pass" system to bypass the governor regardless of what limit has been set by the owner.

They can stop incredibly well nowadays and making sure it was possible for them to overtake in less than five minutes would make the roads much less congested.

bobtail4x4

3,716 posts

109 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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During peak times a ban on lorries overtaking, to stop elephant racing for 6 miles.

and a re test with a driving instructor every 5 years or so.

techguyone

3,137 posts

142 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Dixy said:
I would like to see the rules changed to make indicator lights clearly separate from other lights. Indicators hidden in the centre of brake lights and front indicators so swept around the side of the car and swamped by DLRs. The person driving a German car may as well not bother indicating.
I like this one, I don't know what happened with light regulations but indicators are a bit of a joke in a lot of cars, small, or made not noticable if brake lights or headlights are on.