Eight months for using a laser jammer ?!! Wtf

Eight months for using a laser jammer ?!! Wtf

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anonymous-user

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55 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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vonhosen said:
Hunt down the drivers & bring them to justice?
It's an offence to be threatened with a knife?
Well likely, but nothing when compared to serious crimes like speeding. Which is probably why knife crime has surged. The kids know they’ll likely not get caught, they don’t give a st.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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vonhosen said:
It doesn't matter what side of the fence you are, prosecution or defence, the judiciary will come down hard on you where you are found perverting the course of justice. Non custodial sentences will be very very rare & I think that's completely right. Think very hard before you go there & be prepared to pack a toothbrush if you decide to.
It’s so nice to see the authorities have their priorities straight. PCJ relative to speeding is a BS conviction.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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vonhosen said:
Speeding isn't singled out, it's not about speeding.
It's simply whenever you PtCoJ you're likely to end up in clink & as I said, whichever side of the fence you are on.

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 1st May 21:34
I think the Police should focus on knife crime, serious assault and burglary. But, I know it’s far more important to commit resources to an old guy giving them the finger via a speed camera.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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vonhosen said:
That's where they put the majority of their resources, but that's not what Roads Policing officers investigate (& there are relatively few of them). I'm sure it can't surprise you that Roads Policing Officers are tasked to deal with & investigate Roads Policing matters & those that investigate knife crime, serious assaults & burglaries don't investigate Roads Policing matters (as a rule).
And if you bothered to read the latest statistics, the resources committed to the various prosecutions, the return financially and to the general public, well. You’d understand what the issues are in this day and age. The Police have never been so out of touch.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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vonhosen said:
Sure.

http://www.thejasonspencertrust.org.uk/Knife_Crime...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42815768

Explain to me how a BS speeding offence is more important?

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 1st May 23:23

anonymous-user

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55 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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yonex said:
vonhosen said:
Sure.

http://www.thejasonspencertrust.org.uk/Knife_Crime...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42815768

Explain to me how a BS speeding offence is more important
Who said it was more important?

What’s your alternative?

“Hey, we’re are recording(1) more crimes, and the Met are seeing an increase in knife crime, let’s ignore this offence.”

You (incorrectly) talk about prioritisation. They didn’t go out seeking this. It came to them. What should they do? Ignore it because there’s more serious crime out there? Why stop there? Why not stop any activity below whatever threshold you deem worthy of activity?

(1) Recording increases and actual increase can be very diffeeent things. Various data (as your BBC article addresses) needs to be read to draw any conclusions.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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La Liga said:
ho said it was more important?

What’s your alternative?

“Hey, we’re are recording(1) more crimes, and the Met are seeing an increase in knife crime, let’s ignore this offence.”

You (incorrectly) talk about prioritisation. They didn’t go out seeking this. It came to them. What should they do? Ignore it because there’s more serious crime out there? Why stop there? Why not stop any activity below whatever threshold you deem worthy of activity?

(1) Recording increases and actual increase can be very diffeeent things. Various data (as your BBC article addresses) needs to be read to draw any conclusions.
That's what I have suggested, that this current crusade against PTCOJ and extended jail terms for motorists looks a bit pathetic up against how long the average stretch for burglary etc. 8 months is a ridiculous sentence and a huge waste of taxpayers money IMO. What do you think is more serious?

anonymous-user

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55 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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You were speaking of police prioritisation, not sentencing, which is a matter for the courts.

I’ve already said (ignoring that he may have had previous convictions / other relevant factors), I’d be happy for the sentence to be suspended.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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MB140 said:
Telling porkies to the courts is PCOJ is it not. I don’t see the difference.
No. If you’ve read the thread, PCOJ has been explained several times - so if you don’t see the difference you’re simply saying you’re not very bright.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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cmaguire said:
It appears that the sliding scale requires some adjustments then.
Exactly.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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jm doc said:
Why do people feel so driven to do that?? They could ask themselves if it's anything to do with the huge proliferation of camera vans and unmarked cars dedicated to catching people exceeding speed limits...
confused

anonymous-user

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55 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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I think that those sort of specialist vehicles have reduced with overall traffic officer numbers over the last 15 years.


anonymous-user

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55 months

Thursday 3rd May 2018
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anonymous said:
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confused
What PCOJ is has been explained so many times. It isn't what you think it is. Read the thread.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Thursday 3rd May 2018
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I very rarely see a marked car these days. Lots of plastic coppers and the odd van though.