60mph on Snake Pass nip

[twibs]

Going from Ladybower to Glossop I've seen them in 3 places.

There is a long parking section before the first bridge just after the lights, they park as the last car here looking down towards the bridge, the last spot was at one time marked for police vehicles only.
As said previously in the layby after the long straight .
Then in an old green merc sprinter parked in a small pull in through the trees up towards the pub.

[Sa Calobra]

Which pub?

The Snake Pass, ladybower inn or Yorkshire bridge?

[twibs]

the snake pass inn

[QBee]

I must be about 15 years out of date, because I remember back around 2002 the camera van operator up on the gantry, clocking cars in the 50 limit approaching the Severn Bridge tolls, got into trouble for having the sliding side door open and thus obscuring the word "Police".

I thought that cameras and camera vans had to be marked clearly to give us a sporting chance........clearly doesn't apply in Derbyshire.
Good job I don't speed...........much.

[Fastpedeller]

numtumfutunch said:

Fastpedeller said:

HE HE, many years ago did over 65 on my pedal bike (freewheeling!) down the snake pass - would be fun to see the 'speeding ticket' for doing that

KPH?? Nothing on Strava over 50mph in either direction.

Damn nice ride - hope they close it again soon

MPH - Before the days of strava, and I don't have strava now anyway. Computer gave up the ghost after 67 IIRC!

[Riley Blue]

It's not only camera vans you now have to be wary of on The Snake:

https://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/derbyshire-...

[S11Steve]

TVR Moneypit said:

speedking31 said:

aka the place where it is safest to overtake and not the bit that the 50 mph limit is intended to control.

Yep. That's their usual hiding spot in what looks a tatty old builders van.

https://goo.gl/maps/kuR2QUgTWK62

It's often seen on weekend mornings at that location. Our fleet database of fines shows it is a very lucrative location for them, but I think most of the regular users of that road will know it's there.

Edited by S11Steve on Wednesday 25th April 10:41

[Charlie Croker mk2]

Odd link !!!!!!

[Sa Calobra]

Riley Blue said:

It's not only camera vans you now have to be wary of on The Snake:

https://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/derbyshire-...

You can be doing NSL speeds and come across them suddenly?

The level of damage would be way about a 40 theirs/50 yours rear end. Wonder what their story would be.

[S11Steve]

Charlie Croker mk2 said:

Odd link !!!!!!

Weird - if I click the link it goes to some Italian theme park - if I copy and paste it, it shows the lay-by on the Snake Pass...?!

[Sa Calobra]

S11Steve said:

TVR Moneypit said:

speedking31 said:

aka the place where it is safest to overtake and not the bit that the 50 mph limit is intended to control.

Yep. That's their usual hiding spot in what looks a tatty old builders van.

https://goo.gl/maps/kuR2QUgTWK62

It's often seen on weekend mornings at that location. Our fleet database of fines shows it is a very lucrative location for them, but I think most of the regular users of that road will know it's there.

Edited by S11Steve on Wednesday 25th April 10:41

Really?? So they've replaced the marked van with actatty van?

I've usually done all my overtaking well before then

[The Rookie]

QBee said:

I thought that cameras and camera vans had to be marked clearly to give us a sporting chance........clearly doesn't apply in Derbyshire.

I'm afraid you thought very wrong, there has never been a legal requirement to do so, when the camera partnerships existed and were allowed to 'net off' the money from fixed penalties to fund their operations they were meant to meet the DfT's guidelines on 'conspicuity' to do so, if they didn't they were meant to report themselves to themselves and decide whether they should keep the money or not (I kid you not, only a Tony Blair gov't could have come up with that). The partnerships are long gone so even that isn't a consideration now.

The infamous North Wales horse box.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7322582.stm

Edited by The Rookie on Wednesday 25th April 12:55

[Trax]

QBee said:

I must be about 15 years out of date, because I remember back around 2002 the camera van operator up on the gantry, clocking cars in the 50 limit approaching the Severn Bridge tolls, got into trouble for having the sliding side door open and thus obscuring the word "Police".

I thought that cameras and camera vans had to be marked clearly to give us a sporting chance........clearly doesn't apply in Derbyshire.
Good job I don't speed...........much.

From memory, they had to back then. They were businesses, and to actually keep the money they generated, there was strict criteria, i.e. x amount of accidents in the vicinity, marked up, and some others. If they didn't they couldn't keep the money for their non-profit company, but it went to the treasury.

Now, they only get to keep the money if you go on a course, hence the rise, massively of courses offered, and the increasing of thresholds for the courses. Kerching, its all about savings lives though, obviously.

[Your Dad]

Riley Blue said:

It's not only camera vans you now have to be wary of on The Snake:

https://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/derbyshire-...

Makes a change for the DT, they usually only report on things they can see out of the office window.

[Riley Blue]

Your Dad said:

Riley Blue said:

It's not only camera vans you now have to be wary of on The Snake:

https://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/derbyshire-...

Makes a change for the DT, they usually only report on things they can see out of the office window.

very true.

[Johnnybee]

TVR Moneypit said:

There's a place called Eckington not too far from me.

[WJNB]

V8Bart said:

It's the only safe stretch to overtake!

Come a Sunday afternoon I bet there are many spiteful pensioners or caravanners that know that & love to drive slowly just to make life difficult or to ensure somebody overtakes & gets caught.

[Sa Calobra]

It's not the only safe stretch. There are plenty. There long straight before Snake inn (towards Sheffield).

After snake inn there's a long straight, look to the hedgerows in the distance you can check if no oncoming traffic then cut the corner at the end of the straight.

Another half a mile ahead is another long straight that cuts into a sharp right-hander.