A judgment from Leeds High Court

A judgment from Leeds High Court

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grumpy52

5,598 posts

167 months

Monday 28th May 2018
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Breadvan72 said:
Judges, being quite often highly educated, very well read, broadly cultured, and worldly wise are often droll and witty, although some of them can be dull. The best barristers are often deliberately hilarious in Court, although it is important to assess first whether the Judge likes jokes at all, or only likes his or her own jokes.
Is it fun or is it dreary when a judge realises that a barrister or his client is out of their depth ?

anonymous-user

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55 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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That question is so vague and general as not to admit of a meaningful answer. The answer to almost every question relating to any type of litigation, is "it depends". The engine system of the law is a context-engine.

Roger Irrelevant

2,948 posts

114 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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Breadvan72 said:
See also Elizabeth Gloster (now Lady Justice Gloster) in Berezovsky v Abramovich 2012] EWHC 2463 (Comm)

"I found Mr. Berezovsky an unimpressive, and inherently unreliable, witness, who regarded truth as a transitory, flexible concept, which could be moulded to suit his current purposes. At times, the evidence which he gave was deliberately dishonest; sometimes he was clearly making his evidence up as he went along in response to the perceived difficulty in answering the questions in a manner consistent with his case; at other times, I gained the impression that he was not necessarily being deliberately dishonest, but had deluded himself into believing his own version of events. On occasions he tried to avoid answering questions by making long and irrelevant speeches, or by professing to have forgotten facts which he had been happy to record in his pleadings or witness statements. He embroidered and supplemented statements in his witness statements, or directly contradicted them. He departed from his own previous oral evidence, sometimes within minutes of having given it. When the evidence presented problems, Mr. Berezovsky simply changed his case so as to dovetail it in with the new facts, as best he could. He repeatedly sought to distance himself from statements in pleadings and in witness statements which he had signed or approved, blaming the "interpretation" of his lawyers, as if this somehow diminished his personal responsibility for accounts of the facts, which must have been derived from him and which he had verified as his own."
Appoint this man Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union when David Davis packs it in - nobody would notice the difference!


Flibble

6,476 posts

182 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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deckster said:
I shall definitely be using

Judge said:
a rich display of competitive dishonesty
more in everyday life. Quite a delicious turn of phrase.
I rather liked "a festival of medacity." hehe

anonymous-user

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55 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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Roger Irrelevant said:
Breadvan72 said:
See also Elizabeth Gloster (now Lady Justice Gloster) in Berezovsky v Abramovich 2012] EWHC 2463 (Comm)

"I found Mr. Berezovsky an unimpressive, and inherently unreliable, witness, who regarded truth as a transitory, flexible concept, which could be moulded to suit his current purposes. At times, the evidence which he gave was deliberately dishonest; sometimes he was clearly making his evidence up as he went along in response to the perceived difficulty in answering the questions in a manner consistent with his case; at other times, I gained the impression that he was not necessarily being deliberately dishonest, but had deluded himself into believing his own version of events. On occasions he tried to avoid answering questions by making long and irrelevant speeches, or by professing to have forgotten facts which he had been happy to record in his pleadings or witness statements. He embroidered and supplemented statements in his witness statements, or directly contradicted them. He departed from his own previous oral evidence, sometimes within minutes of having given it. When the evidence presented problems, Mr. Berezovsky simply changed his case so as to dovetail it in with the new facts, as best he could. He repeatedly sought to distance himself from statements in pleadings and in witness statements which he had signed or approved, blaming the "interpretation" of his lawyers, as if this somehow diminished his personal responsibility for accounts of the facts, which must have been derived from him and which he had verified as his own."
Appoint this man Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union when David Davis packs it in - nobody would notice the difference!
Also, Berezovsky is dead (by his own hand, or was it ...), and on that basis he would do a waaaaaaay better job than Davis, and would drink less vodka (Hey, the entire populations of Russia and Poland combined drink less vodka in a year than David Davis does before breakfast).