Parking Charge Notice - overstay past midnight
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Posting on behalf of a friend, who overstayed his welcome in a car park - he'd paid up til midnight but left around 40 mins later. Sure enough he has received a charge notice. What's the latest state of play with these? As I understand things are different since Beavis vs. Parking Eye. Any grounds for appeal? Or offering part payment? Ticket was issued by Smart Parking. Had a look on Pepipoo - there's nothing immediately obvious that stands out that is similar to this, plus their rather condescending tone can be rather off-putting. TIA!
Beavis doesn't apply here, that was a free car park this is a pay car park.
If the rules to make the registered keeper liable have been complied with, then the operator can recover the additional parking charge plus the cost to do so.
£60 isn't unreasonable to me but many will disagree.
If the rules to make the registered keeper liable have been complied with, then the operator can recover the additional parking charge plus the cost to do so.
£60 isn't unreasonable to me but many will disagree.
Pepipoo get off handed when it is plaiin they are dealing with people who dont want to follow their advice and think they know better. These guys are doing this in their own time.
Go Back start a thread and see what happens. 60.00 in your pocket is better than 60 in the PPC, and by paying you are keeping them in business.
All i will say about pepipoo is that they do not hold your hand, they will critique letters etc, but wont write them or do all the leg work. That is up to you
Go Back start a thread and see what happens. 60.00 in your pocket is better than 60 in the PPC, and by paying you are keeping them in business.
All i will say about pepipoo is that they do not hold your hand, they will critique letters etc, but wont write them or do all the leg work. That is up to you
silverfoxcc said:
Pepipoo get off handed when it is plaiin they are dealing with people who dont want to follow their advice and think they know better. These guys are doing this in their own time.
Go Back start a thread and see what happens. 60.00 in your pocket is better than 60 in the PPC, and by paying you are keeping them in business.
All i will say about pepipoo is that they do not hold your hand, they will critique letters etc, but wont write them or do all the leg work. That is up to you
Yep, understand that. They're quick to bite peoples' heads off though. Have opened a new post there.Go Back start a thread and see what happens. 60.00 in your pocket is better than 60 in the PPC, and by paying you are keeping them in business.
All i will say about pepipoo is that they do not hold your hand, they will critique letters etc, but wont write them or do all the leg work. That is up to you
Is there anyone else who can give any assistance here please?
tannhauser said:
Posting on behalf of a friend, who overstayed his welcome in a car park - he'd paid up til midnight but left around 40 mins later. Sure enough he has received a charge notice. What's the latest state of play with these? As I understand things are different since Beavis vs. Parking Eye. Any grounds for appeal? Or offering part payment? Ticket was issued by Smart Parking. Had a look on Pepipoo - there's nothing immediately obvious that stands out that is similar to this, plus their rather condescending tone can be rather off-putting. TIA!
So, guilty as charged? Were the signs displayed correctly? If so, pay the £60 I'm afraid.Edited by Helicopter123 on Sunday 27th May 10:12
People seem more scared nowadays but despite the advise posted on many an internet forum, despite the Beavis court case, and despite official advise saying you must appeal, I find the easiest way to deal with these bullying letters is to simply file them in the log burner.
Saved me quite a bit of money over the last few years and has provided a pleasant and warming glow to my house in the process. Still no court summons in sight yet.
Saved me quite a bit of money over the last few years and has provided a pleasant and warming glow to my house in the process. Still no court summons in sight yet.
Helicopter123 said:
bad company said:
Assuming it’s a private car park I would offer to pay whatever the charge should have been for the 40 minutes parked. No more than that.
What about the costs of admin for having to chase up the 40 minutes?c. £60 it would appear.
king ridiculous when local authorites in my area charge only about £25! How much does 5 mins of admin cost?!
tannhauser said:
Helicopter123 said:
bad company said:
Assuming it’s a private car park I would offer to pay whatever the charge should have been for the 40 minutes parked. No more than that.
What about the costs of admin for having to chase up the 40 minutes?c. £60 it would appear.
king ridiculous when local authorites in my area charge only about £25! How much does 5 mins of admin cost?!Beavis ruling does not apply to every case
TanH.Seen your post on pepipoo
It could well be that if the ticket is worded they cannot chase the RK only the driver
If a BOGOFF letter is sent to the PPC be bloody certain that the driver is not named
IIIRC you have . to say something along the lines of as they cannot hold the RK liable, they are to pursue this with the driver and as i am not legally obliged to do so the details of the driver will not be forthcoming.
Whatever your mate does do not change the wording of the bogoff letter unless the chaps advise it to suit the particular case
TanH.Seen your post on pepipoo
It could well be that if the ticket is worded they cannot chase the RK only the driver
If a BOGOFF letter is sent to the PPC be bloody certain that the driver is not named
IIIRC you have . to say something along the lines of as they cannot hold the RK liable, they are to pursue this with the driver and as i am not legally obliged to do so the details of the driver will not be forthcoming.
Whatever your mate does do not change the wording of the bogoff letter unless the chaps advise it to suit the particular case
Helicopter123 said:
tannhauser said:
Helicopter123 said:
bad company said:
Assuming it’s a private car park I would offer to pay whatever the charge should have been for the 40 minutes parked. No more than that.
What about the costs of admin for having to chase up the 40 minutes?c. £60 it would appear.
king ridiculous when local authorites in my area charge only about £25! How much does 5 mins of admin cost?!So if the local authorities only charge £25 then a £60 charge may not be considered reasonable, and may still be illegal. I'd look into that further and add it as an appeal point, alongside the usual lack of keeper liability (if POFA was not complied with), lack of landowner authority, challenging on the validity of ANPR, etc.
IANAL, YMMV, and all that.
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