Advised to drive dangerously (in writing) by the Police.
Discussion
Johnnytheboy said:
davek_964 said:
I think the OP has given a fairly biased view of what really happened. From the info given, I assume the OP was in the right hand lane and the police car was in the left hand lane, and presumably chose to go straight on or right.
Even if that's the case, and even if the police car was clearly in the wrong lane for the direction they wanted to travel, I wonder why they followed the OP into a dead end and said :
"next time you cut someone up I want to make sure it's not a police officer"
It would suggest that the OP was more than just the victim of a police car making a dangerous lane change.
Unless I'm reading it wrong, no police car was involved. Even if that's the case, and even if the police car was clearly in the wrong lane for the direction they wanted to travel, I wonder why they followed the OP into a dead end and said :
"next time you cut someone up I want to make sure it's not a police officer"
It would suggest that the OP was more than just the victim of a police car making a dangerous lane change.
cuprabob said:
lyonspride said:
Technically speaking, anything before the 12 o'clock exit IS a right turn.
A lot of people seem to think that if your staying on the same road, then your going straight over, and this is wrong.
I think you are going round the roundabout the wrong way A lot of people seem to think that if your staying on the same road, then your going straight over, and this is wrong.
Jediworrier said:
I have a letter that advises me (from a serving officer that in their own words finds the markings confusing) to ignore the highway code and drive dangerously. Strange but true.
But what does the letter ACTUALLY say?I’d be pretty sure it doesn’t say, “ignore the Highway Code and drive dangerously...”
davek_964 said:
Johnnytheboy said:
davek_964 said:
I think the OP has given a fairly biased view of what really happened. From the info given, I assume the OP was in the right hand lane and the police car was in the left hand lane, and presumably chose to go straight on or right.
Even if that's the case, and even if the police car was clearly in the wrong lane for the direction they wanted to travel, I wonder why they followed the OP into a dead end and said :
"next time you cut someone up I want to make sure it's not a police officer"
It would suggest that the OP was more than just the victim of a police car making a dangerous lane change.
Unless I'm reading it wrong, no police car was involved. Even if that's the case, and even if the police car was clearly in the wrong lane for the direction they wanted to travel, I wonder why they followed the OP into a dead end and said :
"next time you cut someone up I want to make sure it's not a police officer"
It would suggest that the OP was more than just the victim of a police car making a dangerous lane change.
If I recall correctly the highway code says:
When approaching a conventional roundabout with two lanes & 4 exits, The left hand lane should be used for turning left or going straight on and the right hand lane should be used for turning right or going all the way round. The right hand lane can be used for going straight on but this is not the preferable option (dotted lines on the little picture). There is a big caveat to this - UNLESS ROAD SIGNS SHOW OTHERWISE.
So without signs to indicate other wise the copper was in the correct lane you were also in the correct lane, albeit not preferred. But there was indication otherwise. In this case he clearly took the wrong lane and therefore in the wrong.
Also how was he able to be cut up by you if you were in the right hand lane and I presume indicating correctly to leave the roundabout? Was he trying to undertake on the roundabout and did he miss your indication? Dangerous driving possibly, driving without due care and attention likely.
Not worth pursuing of worrying about of course but it's the sort of thing that could have led to a collision and without a dashcam, on the copper's say so you would have suffered an at fault claim when there is obviously no fault to suffer. It's unfortunate but when people trained and employed to uphold the rules of the road don't know them themselves, it makes dashcam essential.
When approaching a conventional roundabout with two lanes & 4 exits, The left hand lane should be used for turning left or going straight on and the right hand lane should be used for turning right or going all the way round. The right hand lane can be used for going straight on but this is not the preferable option (dotted lines on the little picture). There is a big caveat to this - UNLESS ROAD SIGNS SHOW OTHERWISE.
So without signs to indicate other wise the copper was in the correct lane you were also in the correct lane, albeit not preferred. But there was indication otherwise. In this case he clearly took the wrong lane and therefore in the wrong.
Also how was he able to be cut up by you if you were in the right hand lane and I presume indicating correctly to leave the roundabout? Was he trying to undertake on the roundabout and did he miss your indication? Dangerous driving possibly, driving without due care and attention likely.
Not worth pursuing of worrying about of course but it's the sort of thing that could have led to a collision and without a dashcam, on the copper's say so you would have suffered an at fault claim when there is obviously no fault to suffer. It's unfortunate but when people trained and employed to uphold the rules of the road don't know them themselves, it makes dashcam essential.
hornmeister said:
If I recall correctly the highway code says:
When approaching a conventional roundabout with two lanes & 4 exits, The left hand lane should be used for turning left or going straight on and the right hand lane should be used for turning right or going all the way round. The right hand lane can be used for going straight on but this is not the preferable option (dotted lines on the little picture). There is a big caveat to this - UNLESS ROAD SIGNS SHOW OTHERWISE.
bks.... I though the right hand lane was for wanging it passed the car in the left hand lane in an attempt to beat them to the 'straight on' junction as well as turning right and going all the way round?????When approaching a conventional roundabout with two lanes & 4 exits, The left hand lane should be used for turning left or going straight on and the right hand lane should be used for turning right or going all the way round. The right hand lane can be used for going straight on but this is not the preferable option (dotted lines on the little picture). There is a big caveat to this - UNLESS ROAD SIGNS SHOW OTHERWISE.
Have a confusing roundabout in Doncaster....
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.4872183,-1.09268...
All makes sense - apart from the right turning lane, where there is no right exit from the roundabout....
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.4872183,-1.09268...
All makes sense - apart from the right turning lane, where there is no right exit from the roundabout....
surveyor said:
Have a confusing roundabout in Doncaster....
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.4872183,-1.09268...
All makes sense - apart from the right turning lane, where there is no right exit from the roundabout....
Its fairly clear when you look at the sign as wellhttps://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.4872183,-1.09268...
All makes sense - apart from the right turning lane, where there is no right exit from the roundabout....
Jediworrier said:
There is a rather a large sign just before where the picture posted was taken. I will post a picture from above when I get home from work. As to checking my mirror I have to say I find that a bit difficult when, at busy times, traffic is quite heavy and approaching at about 40mph from the right across three lanes. The reason I suggest it is dangerous driving is due to the officers comments that they nearly had an accident due to ignoring the markings. I have since been informed by a friendly traffic officer that the right hand lane is the correct one to use and to ignore the letter advising me to turn right from the left lane.
I thought you were in the right hand lane going straight ahead?Car-Matt said:
surveyor said:
Have a confusing roundabout in Doncaster....
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.4872183,-1.09268...
All makes sense - apart from the right turning lane, where there is no right exit from the roundabout....
Its fairly clear when you look at the sign as wellhttps://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.4872183,-1.09268...
All makes sense - apart from the right turning lane, where there is no right exit from the roundabout....
Triumph Man said:
Shuvi McTupya said:
Triumph Man said:
I still want to know under what circumstances somebody was allowed to drive drunk!
Driving drunk is really not that difficult..It is clear that the Op has interpreted the contents of the letter as "drive dangerously and ignore the highway code" but the letter would not actually use those words at all and that is why he has gone quiet as the forum he thought would be outraged has proven otherwise.
I suspect that the letter said something along the lines of "the turn left signal can be ignored if the road ahead is clear and you are taking the 2nd left exit"...or something to that effect etc...
I do not fully understand what the OP means of followed the road down a dead end....I expect there was some hand waving and the unmarked police car suggested a turn off to discuss and the OP then found out they were the Rozzers?
I also suspect that he had been very angry and hence made a formal complaint.
I suspect that the letter said something along the lines of "the turn left signal can be ignored if the road ahead is clear and you are taking the 2nd left exit"...or something to that effect etc...
I do not fully understand what the OP means of followed the road down a dead end....I expect there was some hand waving and the unmarked police car suggested a turn off to discuss and the OP then found out they were the Rozzers?
I also suspect that he had been very angry and hence made a formal complaint.
Triumph Man said:
h0b0 said:
In 2004 I was instructed to drive while drunk by a police officer in the UK. He followed me as I drove the car home.
What are the circumstances surrounding that?That’s when he came up with the master plan. “You look and are acting sober. I’d have no reason to suspect you of drinking”
“You mean apart from me telling you?”
“Get in your car and I will follow you home”
It was only a 200 yard drive but that doesn’t make it any less dodgy.
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