Speeding question

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Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Saturday 22nd September 2018
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johnaachen said:
Is the dual carriageway sign not an indication of the speed limit at the exit of the club?
No.

I was told on a speed awareness course that to be safe from prosecution I should assume any road I turned onto which did not have a visible speed limit or NSL sign was a 30 limit until I saw such a sign. (not sure how this would help in a 20 zone but I guess there'd almost certainly be signs).

roadsmash

2,622 posts

70 months

Saturday 22nd September 2018
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johnaachen said:
Asking for a friend
johnaachen said:
I am querying whether I could be caught BEFORE the 50mph sign
No you wouldn’t have been caught, but your friend might have been. biglaugh

Heres Johnny

7,228 posts

124 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Evanivitch said:
No, it's not. It's an indication that 2 directions of traffic are seperated by a dividing feature.

A NSL sign and a central divider would indicate it was a 70 mph dual carriageway.

Would you consider it the responsibility of the highways agencies to provide signage at every private entrance to a carriageway or do you perhaps think that responsibility should sit with the institution?
You would not get a NSL road sign on a road such as this as there are no streetlights. A road is NSL in the absence of speedlimits to the contrary on unlit dual carriage ways.

Elysium

13,819 posts

187 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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If the golf club access is treated as a road, there should be a repeater joining traffic within 100m.

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:UK_Traffic_Sig...

I think the issue here is that the highway design does not treat it as a road, which creates the problem the op has spotted. I have no idea if it enforceable.

Bigger question really is why any of it should be at 50mph. I bet that is not the 85th percentile.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Elysium said:
If the golf club access is treated as a road, there should be a repeater joining traffic within 100m.

I think the issue here is that the highway design does not treat it as a road
Should all entrances from private business premises be treated as "roads"? And if so, why not residential, too?

Rushjob

1,853 posts

258 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Cudd Wudd said:
O/t, but what are those white boxes painted on the dual carriageway just by the slip road into the golf course? I think there are normally a second set further down the road, but cannot easily navigate the map on this small screen.

Is it to do with the police calculating speed between points? Sorry if this is obvious.
Yep, used to check speed using Vascar / ProVida etc

Cudd Wudd

1,089 posts

125 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Rushjob said:
Yep, used to check speed using Vascar / ProVida etc
Many thanks Rushjob smile

Elysium

13,819 posts

187 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Elysium said:
If the golf club access is treated as a road, there should be a repeater joining traffic within 100m.

I think the issue here is that the highway design does not treat it as a road
Should all entrances from private business premises be treated as "roads"? And if so, why not residential, too?
No?