Car dealer storing cars in our car park

Car dealer storing cars in our car park

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Haltamer

2,457 posts

81 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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Lazermilk said:
Upload the pictures here too with contact details, i'm sure he will see a rise in calls about the cars hes selling and lots of viewings arranged... biggrin
Hello <Tradesperson>, I would be interested in...

Aight bruv, Can I get dat car for like 200 quid and I'll swop you a playstation 4 and all da games?

hehe

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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The two most sensible options are to use the ticketing service referred to above, or to apply to the County Court for an injunction to restrain trespass, but that option is costly. There is by the way no such thing as "taking out an injunction".

markjmd

553 posts

69 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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shakotan said:
markjmd said:
If the vehicles being left on the driveway are untaxed, doesn't that technically make them abandoned, and therefore local Council's responsibility for removal?
Private property, therefore not until Council control.
I'm pretty sure some Councils will take action, if the car has been untaxed long enough.
Sources:
https://www.countryliving.com/uk/homes-interiors/p...
https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/motoring/someo...

It might depend on the area though, and they might not be very quick to act. Personally, I would contact them anyway, just in case they have a team who are quite on the ball about this kind of thing, but in the meantime I'd also be going down the route of CPM self-ticketing or something similar.

pavarotti1980

4,939 posts

85 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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rockin said:
Yes. There should be no difficulty complying with the simple procedures to deal with this ongoing nuisance.

The Protection of Freedoms Act is there to prevent abuse and will not stand in the way of OP solving this genuine parking issue. OP says he has previously confronted the driver so the identity is clearly known.
Clearly you havent the faintest idea what you are on about. Keep believing the tripe you post wavey

Chimune

3,186 posts

224 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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I'm looking for a car near you for running the kids to school.
Can you post up the dealers details Op?

elanfan

5,521 posts

228 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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If the entrance to your car park is narrow enough you might get away with just one of these. They can be automated to work from a remote control but that adds to the cost.

https://www.atgaccess.com/product-category/telesco...
Not bad at £210 between all the freeholders

Pica-Pica

13,855 posts

85 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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elanfan said:
If the entrance to your car park is narrow enough you might get away with just one of these. They can be automated to work from a remote control but that adds to the cost.

https://www.atgaccess.com/product-category/telesco...
Not bad at £210 between all the freeholders
That does not include installation

elanfan

5,521 posts

228 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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Pica-Pica said:
elanfan said:
If the entrance to your car park is narrow enough you might get away with just one of these. They can be automated to work from a remote control but that adds to the cost.

https://www.atgaccess.com/product-category/telesco...
Not bad at £210 between all the freeholders
That does not include installation
Even if it was double that it might only be £50 a flat (depends how many in the block).

tuga2112

25 posts

81 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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let your kids play in the parking lot near those cars. a few "accidental" scratches on the paint will cut down the profit margin which will easily sway him to park elsewhere.

there are many other ways to devaluate that kind of asset. admitedely not very lawful. but i doubt he would go to the police saying he's untaxed car was damaged in a private car park that he doesnt own by someone that may or may not be one of the members of the collective that owns said car park.

apart from declaring the cars as abandoned to the police. i cant think of anything else that will help you without bothering all the collective that owns the parking lot.

jimboS6

4 posts

98 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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If the road that services the parking spaces is owned/adopted by the Highways agency you could offer the places to them for adoption. It would mean they're technically free for all to use but the vehicles would need to be taxed and insured to avoid removal.
Also this would save you from being responsible for the continued upkeep of the spaces.

Alternatively close the management company, I think I am correct in saying unclaimed land becomes the property of the local council and therefore their responsibility, they will then try to push it on to the Highways agency as they don't want it either.

The management company scheme is something developers do to avoid liability for the upkeep of highways,open spaces and parking, as the property gets older the potential expense of repairing the spaces etc can devalue your property, it can also cause arguments as to who decides at which point repairs are required. The 4x4 owner will not be as concerned about ruts as the Lotus driver

Good luck.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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jimboS6 said:
..I think I am correct in saying unclaimed land becomes the property of the local council ....
From where do people get this sort of nonsense?

S11Steve

6,374 posts

185 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Breadvan72 said:
jimboS6 said:
..I think I am correct in saying unclaimed land becomes the property of the local council ....
From where do people get this sort of nonsense?
I read it on the interwebz, so it must be true!

NGee

2,400 posts

165 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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S11Steve said:
Breadvan72 said:
jimboS6 said:
..I think I am correct in saying unclaimed land becomes the property of the local council ....
From where do people get this sort of nonsense?
I read it on the interwebz, so it must be true!
Definitely true, I saw it on TwitFace!

Lazermilk

3,523 posts

82 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Surely using that method you would just end up with the whole carpark being filled up by random people and not just the car dealer? How does that help anything? biggrin

EUbrainwashing

115 posts

97 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Let the ltd co directors resolve to allocate parking bays to each of the flats - if you can make a quorum (read the memorandum of association). The people who want to pay for a lockable bollard to their parking bay are free to do so. If they don't it is their problem who parks there.

Better: resolve to erect a fence and lockable gate. Don't give a key to flats who don't pay - decided by resolution.

Resolve to sell the carpark for development as it is apparently not needed (or perhaps on the proviso a sufficient gated floor for parking is included in the new building). That may just wake the other leasehold co directors up to the issue and get them into addressing the matter.


williskwl

256 posts

178 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Surely the de-facto PH answer is to buy more cars to occupy the spaces so he has nowhere to put his ones for sale biggrin

Plug Life

978 posts

92 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Torch his house.

jimboS6

4 posts

98 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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NGee said:
S11Steve said:
Breadvan72 said:
jimboS6 said:
..I think I am correct in saying unclaimed land becomes the property of the local council ....
From where do people get this sort of nonsense?
I read it on the interwebz, so it must be true!
Definitely true, I saw it on TwitFace!
"Freehold land can sometimes effectively become ownerless. When this happens, title to the land may, in certain circumstances, revert to the Crown as the ultimate owner of all the land in England, Wales or Northern Ireland. This process is called 'escheat'. It can happen in a variety of situations.

The most common is where a registered company is wound up and dissolved without all its property being accounted for in the liquidation."

Taken from, www.thecrownestate.co.uk/en-gb/resources/faqs/


James P

2,958 posts

238 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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jimboS6 said:
NGee said:
S11Steve said:
Breadvan72 said:
jimboS6 said:
..I think I am correct in saying unclaimed land becomes the property of the local council ....
From where do people get this sort of nonsense?
I read it on the interwebz, so it must be true!
Definitely true, I saw it on TwitFace!
"Freehold land can sometimes effectively become ownerless. When this happens, title to the land may, in certain circumstances, revert to the Crown as the ultimate owner of all the land in England, Wales or Northern Ireland. This process is called 'escheat'. It can happen in a variety of situations.

The most common is where a registered company is wound up and dissolved without all its property being accounted for in the liquidation."

Taken from, www.thecrownestate.co.uk/en-gb/resources/faqs/
When property of a registered company is not dealt with in the winding up it becomes “bona vacentia” and vests in the Crown - not the local council. The beneficial owners of the dissolved company can either have the company restored or apply to the treasury solicitor for an equivalent grant.

smashie

685 posts

152 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Just chuck a load of bird seed on the car and maybe some cat food.