Busted with Illegal plate

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av185

18,514 posts

127 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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Strudul said:
It's stupid to deliberately make your plate illegal for something so novel, the risk/reward just doesn't make sense.
Intelligence has it's limits.

Stupidity does not.

Especially in the narcissistic world of vacuous Chavplaters.

Edited by av185 on Sunday 14th October 13:45

Drumroll

3,757 posts

120 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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xjay1337 said:
I detest hypocrisy.
Why is it hypocrisy to have a different view?





xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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Drumroll said:
Why is it hypocrisy to have a different view?
It's not.
But to say its chavvy etc because it's illegal only to then drive home at 130mph is.

cj2013

1,372 posts

126 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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xjay1337 said:
An element of personality. And aesthetics. I much prefer the contrast of a mildly tinted plate - That's why I have tinted plates on both my cars.
I know it's illegal, and I will take the fine if I get one. (I haven't yet in 5 years).
Same reason we ALL speed from time to time and we ALL do illegal things.
It's very easy to sit there and preach , when 99% of the people who are saying how wrong it is, think of the children, blah blah, all do equally illegal things (if not more dangerous) themselves.

I detest hypocrisy.

I believe in Karma and that one day the middle lane hogger who is texting and driving will get their come-uppence, when I have been pulled over to deal with the plates.

Edited by xjay1337 on Sunday 14th October 13:23
That's a bit like someone saying "I like the experience of smoking weed. That's why I smoke it. It's not harming anyone".

Regardless of the facts, when you do something that isn't legal, you should:
  • accept you have no rights to complain, should you get pulled up on it
  • accept that by giving the plod more to do, you're part of the problem rather than the solution
  • accept that whilst there are worse things going on in the world, you're still doing something that is not legal
Hypocrisy would be lambasting illegal plates whilst having one. It isn't someone who is against illegal plates, but does 80mph on motorways.

Drumroll

3,757 posts

120 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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cj2013 said:
xjay1337 said:
An element of personality. And aesthetics. I much prefer the contrast of a mildly tinted plate - That's why I have tinted plates on both my cars.
I know it's illegal, and I will take the fine if I get one. (I haven't yet in 5 years).
Same reason we ALL speed from time to time and we ALL do illegal things.
It's very easy to sit there and preach , when 99% of the people who are saying how wrong it is, think of the children, blah blah, all do equally illegal things (if not more dangerous) themselves.

I detest hypocrisy.

I believe in Karma and that one day the middle lane hogger who is texting and driving will get their come-uppence, when I have been pulled over to deal with the plates.

Edited by xjay1337 on Sunday 14th October 13:23
That's a bit like someone saying "I like the experience of smoking weed. That's why I smoke it. It's not harming anyone".

Regardless of the facts, when you do something that isn't legal, you should:
  • accept you have no rights to complain, should you get pulled up on it
  • accept that by giving the plod more to do, you're part of the problem rather than the solution
  • accept that whilst there are worse things going on in the world, you're still doing something that is not legal
Hypocrisy would be lambasting illegal plates whilst having one. It isn't someone who is against illegal plates, but does 80mph on motorways.
Very True

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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Fully agree with your 3 points.
However, doesn't mean we can't complain / discuss it, can we?


Drumroll

3,757 posts

120 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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I think some of us are trying to have a discussion, but some just seem to resort to the " you can't criticise somebody who breaks one law if you break another (especially as you don't know what the other person does or doesn't do)"


djc206

12,353 posts

125 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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xjay1337 said:
An element of personality. And aesthetics. I much prefer the contrast of a mildly tinted plate - That's why I have tinted plates on both my cars.
I know it's illegal, and I will take the fine if I get one. (I haven't yet in 5 years).
Same reason we ALL speed from time to time and we ALL do illegal things.
It's very easy to sit there and preach , when 99% of the people who are saying how wrong it is, think of the children, blah blah, all do equally illegal things (if not more dangerous) themselves.

I detest hypocrisy.

I believe in Karma and that one day the middle lane hogger who is texting and driving will get their come-uppence, when I have been pulled over to deal with the plates.



Edited by xjay1337 on Sunday 14th October 13:23
The difference I guess is to get illegal plates you have to go out of your way to find someone who illegally makes and sells them or you have to go out of your way to drill holes and cover them with appropriate coloured screw caps. I don’t really care but it is the deliberate nature of the offence and the reasonable amount of effort required to do it which makes it’s very clear cut, you’ve set out at expense of both money and time to break the law. Speeding requires a lot less effort and can be done accidentally, personally I do it deliberately so I’m a massive hypocrite and like you I’ll take whatever punishment comes my way if I ever get caught but the above is how I’ve thought about it when it’s been raised on here before.

djc206

12,353 posts

125 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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xjay1337 said:
It's not.
But to say its chavvy etc because it's illegal only to then drive home at 130mph is.
It’s not chavvy because it’s illegal. It’s chavvy because it’s chavvy, it just also happens to be illegal.

85Carrera

3,503 posts

237 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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Fermit and Sarah said:
Confession time, and I've made no secret of it, I have a private plate, and by the letter of the law it's illegal. My 'crime' is making R88 look a little bit more like ROB by the inclusion of a screw-cap to the middle horizontal of the front 8.
What you’ve actually done is make it look like RO8, rather than R88, which is exactly the sort of thing that should be clamped down on.

There’s nothing wrong with a proper private plate but this current fad of taking a standard plate and trying to make it look like a private plate is laughable.





xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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djc206 said:
xjay1337 said:
It's not.
But to say its chavvy etc because it's illegal only to then drive home at 130mph is.
It’s not chavvy because it’s illegal. It’s chavvy because it’s chavvy, it just also happens to be illegal.
That is just an opinion though smile

I can't imagine we are all company directors on here.

Quite happy to be called chavvy , as I'm sure most people are, and we all enjoy a bit of piss-taking but some people throw the chavvy terminology around when it's simply something they don't like.

Fermit and Sarah

12,988 posts

100 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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85Carrera said:
Fermit and Sarah said:
Confession time, and I've made no secret of it, I have a private plate, and by the letter of the law it's illegal. My 'crime' is making R88 look a little bit more like ROB by the inclusion of a screw-cap to the middle horizontal of the front 8.
What you’ve actually done is make it look like RO8, rather than R88, which is exactly the sort of thing that should be clamped down on.

There’s nothing wrong with a proper private plate but this current fad of taking a standard plate and trying to make it look like a private plate is laughable.
However; the figure of 8 shape remains, ANPR can read it, and a 4 year old could tell you it's R88. It's also never prompted an MOT failure, and to the best of my knowledge plate legality is part of the test?

There is no chance of this being mistaken for an 0, lets be honest. I know it's a bit naughty, but many a copper has seen it over the years and not given a toss. All except one who was upset as he thought he'd got me/my ex on a no insurance pull.



djc206

12,353 posts

125 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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xjay1337 said:
That is just an opinion though smile

I can't imagine we are all company directors on here.

Quite happy to be called chavvy , as I'm sure most people are, and we all enjoy a bit of piss-taking but some people throw the chavvy terminology around when it's simply something they don't like.
It’s not so much an opinion as an observation. If Chavs do or like something then it unfortunately becomes chavvy by association.

I’ve never directed anything never mind a company. For the record I drive a Ford with black wheels. Chav.

Heres Johnny

7,229 posts

124 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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Fermit and Sarah said:
However; the figure of 8 shape remains, ANPR can read it, and a 4 year old could tell you it's R88. It's also never prompted an MOT failure, and to the best of my knowledge plate legality is part of the test?
What makes you think ANPR can read it?

And its well known that computers and 4 year olds have different skill sets

Vaud

50,542 posts

155 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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Fermit and Sarah said:
However; the figure of 8 shape remains, ANPR can read it, and a 4 year old could tell you it's R88. It's also never prompted an MOT failure, and to the best of my knowledge plate legality is part of the test?

There is no chance of this being mistaken for an 0, lets be honest. I know it's a bit naughty, but many a copper has seen it over the years and not given a toss. All except one who was upset as he thought he'd got me/my ex on a no insurance pull.
I think you are wrong - from a distance or at a glance it could be ambiguous.

Hol

8,419 posts

200 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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Drumroll said:
xjay1337 said:
I detest hypocrisy.
Why is it hypocrisy to have a different view?
I’m sure he’d use worse words if he could.

We seem to recently picked up a few little pocket despots with huge post counts indicative of all the times they spit their dummy out.

4rephill

5,041 posts

178 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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Fermit and Sarah said:
However; the figure of 8 shape remains, ANPR can read it, and a 4 year old could tell you it's R88. It's also never prompted an MOT failure, and to the best of my knowledge plate legality is part of the test?

There is no chance of this being mistaken for an 0, lets be honest. I know it's a bit naughty, but many a copper has seen it over the years and not given a toss. All except one who was upset as he thought he'd got me/my ex on a no insurance pull.


Totally agree with the highlighted part: It in no way, shape or form makes the number look like "ROB"
- So why bother? confused

To me it's a registration plate equivalent of someone taking all the Hyundai badges off their Hyundai coupe, and putting Ferrari badges on it - Totally pointless!


xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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Vaud said:
Fermit and Sarah said:
However; the figure of 8 shape remains, ANPR can read it, and a 4 year old could tell you it's R88. It's also never prompted an MOT failure, and to the best of my knowledge plate legality is part of the test?

There is no chance of this being mistaken for an 0, lets be honest. I know it's a bit naughty, but many a copper has seen it over the years and not given a toss. All except one who was upset as he thought he'd got me/my ex on a no insurance pull.
I think you are wrong - from a distance or at a glance it could be ambiguous.
I think it is pretty obviously an 8.

Again as I mentioned earlier, if you can't tell that then you need to stop driving as your sight will be below the legal minimum.

Fermit and Sarah

12,988 posts

100 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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Heres Johnny said:
Fermit and Sarah said:
However; the figure of 8 shape remains, ANPR can read it, and a 4 year old could tell you it's R88. It's also never prompted an MOT failure, and to the best of my knowledge plate legality is part of the test?
What makes you think ANPR can read it?

And its well known that computers and 4 year olds have different skill sets
If you read an earlier post by me I was pulled over some 7 or 8 years ago, on the basis of something that ANPR told plod.

I think it is clearly an 8, just at a passing glance it looks a bit more like ROB. The next three letters are part of my surname. It was a birthday present from my mum, and I quite like it.

Anyways, say I ram-raided an Ernest Jones and someone snitched on me and told the police 'his plate was ROB *** I'm sure they'd be at my door pretty quickly regardless.

Hol

8,419 posts

200 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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I have three private plates.

None of them are butchered, so I have no. concerns whatsover if the government start subsidising their tax income by fining people, for doing something they knew they shouldn’t.


And no, I don’t pretend that I drive like a saint everywhere.

I just don’t feel that badging plates is in any way in the same ballpark as being a few mph over the limit when you initially pass a 30 sign, or straying a few inches into a bus lane by mistake.