Busted with Illegal plate

[Vaud]

xjay1337 said:

I think it is pretty obviously an 8.

Again as I mentioned earlier, if you can't tell that then you need to stop driving as your sight will be below the legal minimum.

My eyesight is fine thanks and recently tested. Note the phrase “at a glance”.

[Vaud]

Fermit and Sarah said:

All except one who was upset as he thought he'd got me/my ex on a no insurance pull.

Did he pull you because his ANPR pinged it as the wrong reg and showed that reg as an uninsured vehicle?

[Fermit and Sarah]

Vaud said:

Fermit and Sarah said:

All except one who was upset as he thought he'd got me/my ex on a no insurance pull.

Did he pull you because his ANPR pinged it as the wrong reg and showed that reg as an uninsured vehicle?

No. An ex driving it, on third party, as her own FC policy allowed. His first words after we got out the car was 'you're (me) insured to drive, you're (ex) not'. He acknowledged his ANPR read it too, after a back track.

[Durzel]

Fermit and Sarah said:

However; the figure of 8 shape remains, ANPR can read it, and a 4 year old could tell you it's R88. It's also never prompted an MOT failure, and to the best of my knowledge plate legality is part of the test?

There is no chance of this being mistaken for an 0, lets be honest. I know it's a bit naughty, but many a copper has seen it over the years and not given a toss. All except one who was upset as he thought he'd got me/my ex on a no insurance pull.

At what distance should it look like ROB?

I guess some measure of hat tipping is in order for not butchering the font on the 8 to make it look even more like an O.

I guess ANPR can read it because R0X XXX is - as far as I know - an invalid format plate.

I guess you've never thought of a new style 7 character plate with ROB actually on the end, vs your 6 character one?

Edited by Durzel on Sunday 14th October 18:03

[Vaud]

Fermit and Sarah said:

No. An ex driving it, on third party, as her own FC policy allowed. His first words after we got out the car was 'you're (me) insured to drive, you're (ex) not'. He acknowledged his ANPR read it too, after a back track.

Fair enough.

[OddCat]

Vaud said:

Fermit and Sarah said:

No. An ex driving it, on third party, as her own FC policy allowed. His first words after we got out the car was 'you're (me) insured to drive, you're (ex) not'. He acknowledged his ANPR read it too, after a back track.

Fair enough.

Not sure I follow. Why did the officer pull you over ? How did he know you were the only person on the insurance for the car ? And how did he know you were 'that' person if you hadn't even spoken at that point ? And why did he not even consider that the driver may be doing so on her own policy DOC cover ?

Most odd.

[ArmaghMan]

HantsRat said:

Gave a chap a ticket the other month for this. He started stating that everyone does it. In the 10 minutes of checks and filling out the ticket not 1 vehicle passed with an illegal plate and this was on a busy motorway. He soon shut up.

3 weeks later saw the same guy with the same illegal plate. DVLA have now revoked his 4 character plate. All simply could have been avoided by just following the rules.

I personally don't get it. You don't change the serial number of your TV or hoover so why change the 'serial number' of a car?

I think you will find that the VIN is the serial number.

Good to see no unsolved rapes, burglaries, murders in your area. And then the police wonder why people have no time for them.

[Fermit and Sarah]

OddCat said:

Vaud said:

Fermit and Sarah said:

No. An ex driving it, on third party, as her own FC policy allowed. His first words after we got out the car was 'you're (me) insured to drive, you're (ex) not'. He acknowledged his ANPR read it too, after a back track.

Fair enough.

Not sure I follow. Why did the officer pull you over ? How did he know you were the only person on the insurance for the car ? And how did he know you were 'that' person if you hadn't even spoken at that point ? And why did he not even consider that the driver may be doing so on her own policy DOC cover ?

Most odd.

This is exactly how it went. I had presumed that ANPR showed him a male registered keeper/ insured, and my ex was visibly female. He didn't come across well TBH, at one point he even stated 'I could have your car towed if I wanted', to which I replied 'you could, if she wasn't insured to drive it'. She was in the car a while, and once he was satisfied she was insured he called me back.

South Wales Police, on our way to Pembrokeshire.

[vonhosen]

ArmaghMan said:

HantsRat said:

Gave a chap a ticket the other month for this. He started stating that everyone does it. In the 10 minutes of checks and filling out the ticket not 1 vehicle passed with an illegal plate and this was on a busy motorway. He soon shut up.

3 weeks later saw the same guy with the same illegal plate. DVLA have now revoked his 4 character plate. All simply could have been avoided by just following the rules.

I personally don't get it. You don't change the serial number of your TV or hoover so why change the 'serial number' of a car?

I think you will find that the VIN is the serial number.

Good to see no unsolved rapes, burglaries, murders in your area. And then the police wonder why people have no time for them.

The rapes, burglaries & murders are to be investigated by the officers trained to deal with those investigations.
Traffic matters to be investigated by the officers trained to deal with them.

It's a facile argument/position that nothing else should be investigated until all murders are solved & then when they are nothing else should be investigated until all rapes are solved etc etc.

[Mandalore]

ArmaghMan said:

I think you will find that the VIN is the serial number.

Good to see no unsolved rapes, burglaries, murders in your area. And then the police wonder why people have no time for them.

[Durzel]

vonhosen said:

The rapes, burglaries & murders are to be investigated by the officers trained to deal with those investigations.
Traffic matters to be investigated by the officers trained to deal with them.

It's a facile argument/position that nothing else should be investigated until all murders are solved & then when they are nothing else should be investigated until all rapes are solved etc etc.

You're suggesting there should be logic involved in naked anti-Police attitudes?

[ghe13rte]

Durzel said:

Fermit and Sarah said:

However; the figure of 8 shape remains, ANPR can read it, and a 4 year old could tell you it's R88. It's also never prompted an MOT failure, and to the best of my knowledge plate legality is part of the test?

There is no chance of this being mistaken for an 0, lets be honest. I know it's a bit naughty, but many a copper has seen it over the years and not given a toss. All except one who was upset as he thought he'd got me/my ex on a no insurance pull.

At what distance should it look like ROB?

I guess some measure of hat tipping is in order for not butchering the font on the 8 to make it look even more like an O.

I guess ANPR can read it because R0X XXX is - as far as I know - an invalid format plate.

I guess you've never thought of a new style 7 character plate with ROB actually on the end, vs your 6 character one?

Edited by Durzel on Sunday 14th October 18:03

As distance from the plate increases it will start to look more like an O than an 8.
Some ANPR cameras will read it as an 8 some a 0.
The car isn’t registered as R08 it is R88.

In some photography it wil result in multiple searches by police to get the correct vehicle.

If the keeper thinks it better to stroke his manhood while the police make multiple attempts to ID the car great, carry on.

You know it’s wrong and the police are hard-pushed to deal with “real crime” so why not just comply and stop taking the piss so you can drive with a hard-on FFS.

[gothatway]

ghe13rte said:

As distance from the plate increases it will start to look more like an O than an 8.

No it won't; the converse is true given that there's more black than yellow on the line.

[Vaud]

ghe13rte said:

As distance from the plate increases it will start to look more like an O than an 8.
Some ANPR cameras will read it as an 8 some a 0.
The car isn’t registered as R08 it is R88.

In some photography it wil result in multiple searches by police to get the correct vehicle.

If the keeper thinks it better to stroke his manhood while the police make multiple attempts to ID the car great, carry on.

You know it’s wrong and the police are hard-pushed to deal with “real crime” so why not just comply and stop taking the piss so you can drive with a hard-on FFS.

Right - there is no need for that screw to be yellow? The only reason for it not to be yellow is either laziness or a desire to obfuscate the plate.

[Fermit and Sarah]

ghe13rte said:

As distance from the plate increases it will start to look more like an O than an 8.
Some ANPR cameras will read it as an 8 some a 0.
The car isn’t registered as R08 it is R88.

In some photography it wil result in multiple searches by police to get the correct vehicle.

If the keeper thinks it better to stroke his manhood while the police make multiple attempts to ID the car great, carry on.

You know it’s wrong and the police are hard-pushed to deal with “real crime” so why not just comply and stop taking the piss so you can drive with a hard-on FFS.

You carry on insulting strangers on the internet, I'm not going to waste my time responding any further than this to you.

[Fermit and Sarah]

Vaud said:

ghe13rte said:

As distance from the plate increases it will start to look more like an O than an 8.
Some ANPR cameras will read it as an 8 some a 0.
The car isn’t registered as R08 it is R88.

In some photography it wil result in multiple searches by police to get the correct vehicle.

If the keeper thinks it better to stroke his manhood while the police make multiple attempts to ID the car great, carry on.

You know it’s wrong and the police are hard-pushed to deal with “real crime” so why not just comply and stop taking the piss so you can drive with a hard-on FFS.

Right - there is no need for that screw to be yellow? The only reason for it not to be yellow is either laziness or a desire to obfuscate the plate.

I disagree, I don't believe it's unclear. I've also asked a few MOT centres about it, and any I've asked have said it's not an illegal plate in their opinions.

[av185]

ghe13rte said:

If the keeper thinks it better to stroke his manhood while the police make multiple attempts to ID the car great, carry on.

You know it’s wrong and the police are hard-pushed to deal with “real crime” so why not just comply and stop taking the piss so you can drive with a hard-on FFS.

Agreed.

[vonhosen]

Fermit and Sarah said:

Vaud said:

ghe13rte said:

As distance from the plate increases it will start to look more like an O than an 8.
Some ANPR cameras will read it as an 8 some a 0.
The car isn’t registered as R08 it is R88.

In some photography it wil result in multiple searches by police to get the correct vehicle.

If the keeper thinks it better to stroke his manhood while the police make multiple attempts to ID the car great, carry on.

You know it’s wrong and the police are hard-pushed to deal with “real crime” so why not just comply and stop taking the piss so you can drive with a hard-on FFS.

Right - there is no need for that screw to be yellow? The only reason for it not to be yellow is either laziness or a desire to obfuscate the plate.

I disagree, I don't believe it's unclear. I've also asked a few MOT centres about it, and any I've asked have said it's not an illegal plate in their opinions.

It's ultimately not important what you or they think if an officer decides it breaches the Regs.
It matters then what the CPS, Courts & DVSA think.
It undeniably alters the appearance.

[av185]

Strange how a high proportion of Chavplaters with illegal and butchered plates openly admit to keeping their original and 'proper legal' plates in the boot.

Now why would that be?.

[Vaud]

Fermit and Sarah said:

I disagree, I don't believe it's unclear. I've also asked a few MOT centres about it, and any I've asked have said it's not an illegal plate in their opinions.

I'm sure they will pay any fines on your behalf. It isn't their call.

So why not just paint the screw black?