Busted with Illegal plate

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djc206

12,357 posts

126 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Armitage.Shanks said:
Most of the supercars in Cheshire will be OK if it's a front viewing camera as they don't bother with a front number plate at all. It would be like shelling peas in Wilmslow and Alderley Edge rolleyes
The simple solution if the authorities really cared would be to make use of a chav plate an endorsable offence and no front plate result in impounding of the vehicle until one is fitted. No one would bother then but equally the DVLA would make a lot less from their auctions....it’s easy to conclude that they don’t really care and are happy to keep taking the money of the vain.

twister

1,451 posts

237 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Antony Moxey said:
twister said:
was it AB55ABY or ABS548Y or perhaps even A855ABY?
Presumably it was one of three so shouldn't be that difficult to identify the actual one by a simple process of elimination. Checking three number plates instead of one is hardly going to put an investigation back years, is it?
Anything which reduces the reliability of witness evidence is a bad thing IMO, and given that everything else about the plate layout rules seems to be based on maintaining a minimum level of legibility, I'm not about to assume there's another reason why the inclusion of a space is part of those precisely defined rules.


Exige77

6,518 posts

192 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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By all means have a nice plate but butchering an ordinary plate to make it look “special” is just pants.

Don’t do it.

Worse than putting M badges on a rep mobile.

NewChurch

222 posts

99 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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General Gassing:

"Some tt broke in and stole my Golf R, 3 lads in a black Audi. Police had reports of both cars travelling southbound at J32 on the M1. ANPR recorded my Golf but it couldn't identify the second car."

Thread Posts:

1) Absolute scumbags.

2) Should rot in jail..

3) Hope you catch them.




Speed, Plod & the Law:

"Busted with Illegal plate."

Thread Posts:

1) Simple answer is don't use illegal plates.

Why do you feel you need to have them?

2) Congratulations

3) Excellent news! Could we have a pic of it for the C4AP number plates thread?

Everybody seems in agreement, then...

gothatway said:
bad company said:
Drumroll said:
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
This thread displays the worst of the PH forum.
Sad times
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Care to expand on that statement?
Yep, an op seeking help & advice gets flamed possibly due to jealousy.
Indeed. Never used to be so many joyless sanctimonious folk here, whose initial reaction to many posts is to attack. Pathetic.
The forum needs to decide, are people that deliberately obfuscate number plates scumbags or not?, Is it OK for me to have an obfuscated plate because I don't intend on committing a crime? or am I just harbouring criminals?.

What do folk think?, there seems to be a huge amount of hypocrisy around here.

NC1-1RCH




kiethton

13,896 posts

181 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Fun Bus said:
kiethton said:
Car does <3k a year though so will likely be ok
Does that mean you’re breaking the law less than if you did 12k miles a year with it?

I always thought the law was black and white.
Indeed, it’s on the front of an exige so looks on first glance to be in proportion, a proper sized plate does nothing but scrape on the road/speed bumps

Heres Johnny

7,232 posts

125 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Cold said:
The fact that the whole identifying system (from ANPR through to a bloke in a blue shirt studying a screen) coped with identifying the owner and issuing a ticket suggests that misspaced plates are just as good as correctly spaced plates in their primary function.

But, illegal. Burn him. And his dog. Because outrage. judge
Totally bogus argument. The A in ANPR is Automatic, the idea is a computer reads the number plate and tucks it away in it database - it does it millions of times a day all over the country and that data helps tackle crime in a number of ways. You know this.

If ANPR can’t read some plates it can’t track the cars movement. If a serious criminal just thought a misplaced coloured dots changed their plate from CR1MES to CL1VES it would be easy. That’s why there are rules.

The enforcement could be as simple as every unreliable read by some ANPR cameras get sent to a guy in an office.. they look at work out which are reflections, bit of dirt, and which are knobs being knobbish and send them an appropriate fine.

Edited by Heres Johnny on Friday 12th October 08:29

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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NewChurch said:
Speed, Plod & the Law:

"Busted with Illegal plate."

Thread Posts:

1) Simple answer is don't use illegal plates.

Why do you feel you need to have them?

2) Congratulations

3) Excellent news! Could we have a pic of it for the C4AP number plates thread?

Everybody seems in agreement, then...
You forgot about the tt suggesting he should be crushed with his car!

Shnozz

27,489 posts

272 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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kiethton said:
Indeed, it’s on the front of an exige so looks on first glance to be in proportion, a proper sized plate does nothing but scrape on the road/speed bumps
Undersized AND mis-spaced. You’re a brave man posting that to this crowd!

ToothbrushMan

1,770 posts

126 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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well i presume you have at least fixed the numbers plates to the car.

i'm sick and tired of seeing cars (usually Audis........often black ones too) with the front number plate popped onto the top of dash on the passenger side. You see them quote often around town and just know that so long as they get away with then thats where they will keep the plate.

the back ones tend to be those dark tinted variety.

Honestly...... is it some "yoot" fashion statement or wannabee gangsta statement - "look at me I'm above the law and couldnt give a fig".

In the case of the audis I reckon its the latter........

loose cannon

6,030 posts

242 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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av185 said:
Yep together with the Chavplating fkwit owner.
You’d actively want to murder somebody because of a number plate laugh
Do you beat your wife for not enough bacon in your sandwich to biggrin

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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loose cannon said:
av185 said:
Yep together with the Chavplating fkwit owner.
You’d actively want to murder somebody because of a number plate laugh
Do you beat your wife for not enough bacon in your sandwich to biggrin
He won't have a wife!

g3org3y

20,639 posts

192 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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loose cannon said:
av185 said:
Yep together with the Chavplating fkwit owner.
You’d actively want to murder somebody because of a number plate laugh
Do you beat your wife for not enough bacon in your sandwich toobiggrin
To be fair, that's not unreasonable. Don't fk with a man's right to bacon.

Seesure

1,187 posts

240 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Drumroll said:
Simple answer is don't use illegal plates.

Why do you feel you need to have them?
Congratulations - took you all of 5 minutes from the OP to ignore the actual question of the OP and respond with a true PH keyboard warrior response...

The actual question for clarity was

clive993 said:
Does anyone know the type of vans that capture and fine illegal plates?

Heres Johnny

7,232 posts

125 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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loose cannon said:
av185 said:
Yep together with the Chavplating fkwit owner.
You’d actively want to murder somebody because of a number plate laugh
Do you beat your wife for not enough bacon in your sandwich to biggrin
Maybe its because his wife is beating him for the lack of sausage in hers?

bad company

18,638 posts

267 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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ToothbrushMan said:
well i presume you have at least fixed the numbers plates to the car.

i'm sick and tired of seeing cars (usually Audis........often black ones too) with the front number plate popped onto the top of dash on the passenger side. You see them quote often around town and just know that so long as they get away with then thats where they will keep the plate.

the back ones tend to be those dark tinted variety.

Honestly...... is it some "yoot" fashion statement or wannabee gangsta statement - "look at me I'm above the law and couldnt give a fig".

In the case of the audis I reckon its the latter........
Can’t you afford an Audi? cry

HantsRat

2,369 posts

109 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Gave a chap a ticket the other month for this. He started stating that everyone does it. In the 10 minutes of checks and filling out the ticket not 1 vehicle passed with an illegal plate and this was on a busy motorway. He soon shut up.

3 weeks later saw the same guy with the same illegal plate. DVLA have now revoked his 4 character plate. All simply could have been avoided by just following the rules.

I personally don't get it. You don't change the serial number of your TV or hoover so why change the 'serial number' of a car?

ghe13rte

1,860 posts

117 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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clive993 said:
Got a nice picture through the post today of my illegal plate along with my £100 picture fee !!!. Not that illegal that they couldnt find me though sadly. I am not sure if the van was ANPR or if it was a speeding cam van that took the pic. I wasnt speeding, just the plate got recorded. If its now common to take these pics through speed cam vans then I guess a lot will possibly suffer, but ANPR vans are a lot less common. Does anyone know the type of vans that capture and fine illegal plates?
Speed enforcement offices around the country are looking at millions of vehicles every year. Not every office, but all in total.
The registration numbers are viewed and checked against PNC. While viewing they can easily do a check on the spacing and issue a ticket if necessary.
If the vehicle is. It speeding a marker can be placed on the video by an operator so action can be taken if an offence other than speeding is observed, mobile phone use, no seatbelt, driving like a tt, misplaced characters in number plate, etc...
DVLA could also do this with their ANPR road fund licence check cameras but I don’t know if they do or not.
I put my first cameras out to do this 15 years ago so it’s not new.

clive993

Original Poster:

94 posts

189 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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kiethton said:
Interesting, as somebody who runs a plate that is both mid-spaced and 2/3 size I should probably keep a look out.

Car does <3k a year though so will likely be ok...where was this van?
A45 Billing near Northampton. You are brave to admit your plate crime on here......very brave

clive993

Original Poster:

94 posts

189 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Olivera said:


redface
That car was sold 8 years ago, the font is now standard and the spacing less pronounced.....but thank you for you assumptions and angry face emoji

Eddieslofart

1,328 posts

84 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Seesure said:
Drumroll said:
Simple answer is don't use illegal plates.

Why do you feel you need to have them?
Congratulations - took you all of 5 minutes from the OP to ignore the actual question of the OP and respond with a true PH keyboard warrior response...

The actual question for clarity was

clive993 said:
Does anyone know the type of vans that capture and fine illegal plates?
Agreed. OP, might be worth putting a bid in for this just in case there’s a next time biggrin

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