Scratch on colleagues car

[Aiminghigh123]

Well since contacting the BMW guy he has claimed the damage totals a couple of k worth of damage plus because it’s a limited edition paint job and panels might need to be taken off but he hasn’t provided the photos I asked for.
He has also just pushed it over to our manager and wants him to sort it. He also claims that the evidence is clear who walked past his car but hasn’t seen the evidence himself.
I have spoken with the car park security and honestly I doubt they have information as they don’t seem like they could organize a piss up in a brewery. The guy I spoke to wasn’t even sure if they keep the cctv for more than a couple of days and admitted half the car park isn’t actually covered by cctv. They only have 1 camera that can see the entrance and can scan round a bit but it’s mainly there to see if people get stuck leaving/entering the car park.

There is no walkway between any of the cars and you do have to walk between cars unless you park on row 1 which is always full. Ok you can walk around the cars following the road but that would be ridiculous the rows of cars are about 20 long before the first road.

I am certain this guy is trying to claim it happened at this car park when he hasn’t said he checked his car before work only after work when it was daylight.

I have never been late to work without letting them know, eg broke down on way to work which happened once. I have had a very small issue with a colleague at work but it wasn’t this person and that has been resolved between me and the person involved. If they are trying to take me down surely they would have me on disciplinary already? Anyway as it so happens I have already been looking at moving on so CVs are already out.

Just to add the police got notified at the time, this was 4 months ago apparently.

Edited by Aiminghigh123 on Monday 17th December 21:46

[Aiminghigh123]

graylag said:

Aiminghigh123 said:

Well since contacting the BMW guy he has claimed the damage totals a couple of k worth of damage plus because it’s a limited edition paint job and panels might need to be taken off but he hasn’t provided the photos I asked for.
He has also just pushed it over to our manager and wants him to sort it. He also claims that the evidence is clear who walked past his car but hasn’t seen the evidence himself.
I have spoken with the car park security and honestly I doubt they have information as they don’t seem like they could organize a piss up in a brewery. The guy I spoke to wasn’t even sure if they keep the cctv for more than a couple of days and admitted half the car park isn’t actually covered by cctv. They only have 1 camera that can see the entrance and can scan round a bit but it’s mainly there to see if people get stuck leaving/entering the car park.

There is no walkway between any of the cars and you do have to walk between cars unless you park on row 1 which is always full. Ok you can walk around the cars following the road but that would be ridiculous the rows of cars are about 20 long before the first road.

I am certain this guy is trying to claim it happened at this car park when he hasn’t said he checked his car before work only after work when it was daylight.

I have never been late to work without letting them know, eg broke down on way to work which happened once. I have had a very small issue with a colleague at work but it wasn’t this person and that has been resolved between me and the person involved. If they are trying to take me down surely they would have me on disciplinary already? Anyway as it so happens I have already been looking at moving on so CVs are already out.

Just to add the police got notified at the time, this was 4 months ago apparently.

Edited by Aiminghigh123 on Monday 17th December 21:46

You’re still not answering my question about whether the BMW was parked on a pedestrian walkway. Let me make this clearer.

In a car park there will be an exit point for pedestrians and there will usually be a gap where people shouldn’t park so that pedestrians can walk through. Most parking spaces don’t line up adjacent to these and simply are just bays with a brickwall at the back.

Was the BMW in one of these spaces adjacent to the walkway? If so it seems very strange that you’re the only one to walk past it on the day in question.

If not, why do you remember walking past it? Surely there’s no reason to, unless you were parked next to it.

I already said there are no walkways at all.

I don’t remember exactly walking past it I could have done. It is an M3 so when seeing a car like that usually think oh look M3/M5/AMG/GT2/Lambo/RS6/RS4/Porsche/Ferrari etc etc there not that rare but usually see at least 3-4 in the car park at any one time, and I did say before I didn’t know what car he had until manager told me. 9 times out of 10 I would be head down looking at my phone checking the roads before I get in my car and drive home.

Edited by Aiminghigh123 on Tuesday 18th December 08:15

[Aiminghigh123]

graylag said:

Aiminghigh123 said:

I already said there are no walkways at all.

Right, so no walkways, which means you’re squeezing between cars, which I’m presuming are parked fairly close to each other like in the car park example given above by the other poster. If you’re carrying your bag / jacket / zip in such a way that it could scratch another car then it’s not that ridiculous to expect you to walk round is it? I wouldn’t dream of squeezing between cars for exactly this reason, you obviously see things differently.

What if it’s a long way around to get to your car? If in the middle that could mean walking 20 cars down to go around the top end then 20 cars back. 90% of people just walk between cars if it’s raining I would say 99%. When I leave work it goes like this, YES survived another day at work, right text misses let her know on my way, quick text to mate, quick check of roads. Get it car start and go. 1 hr commute home so every second counts.

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pavarotti1980 said:

graylag said:

Right, so no walkways, which means you’re squeezing between cars, which I’m presuming are parked fairly close to each other like in the car park example given above by the other poster. If you’re carrying your bag / jacket / zip in such a way that it could scratch another car then it’s not that ridiculous to expect you to walk round is it? I wouldn’t dream of squeezing between cars for exactly this reason, you obviously see things differently.

If you kept up and read the posts properly you would have already realised this.

Would a bag/jacket/zip creat a scratch similar to being keyed down the full length of the car as you brush past?
Would you notice if your car had been "keyed" down the entire length?
How does the BMW driver know the damage occured that day?
Could the damage have occured at any other time?
Why did it take them 4 months to contact OP?
What happened in the 2 months between it allegedly happening and the OP going off on parental leave?

This is what I don’t understand coupled with the fact I haven’t seen any photos of the scratches despite asking and CCTV “evidence” can’t be shown to me, however since my initial posts I have asked the car park company and they’re not sure they even have the CCTV anymore. They don’t even remember an incident happening. Surely they would remember a complaint or have a record of it?

[Aiminghigh123]

At first I did feel bad thinking have I walked between someone’s car and scratched it by mistake not realizing, I’m sure I would remember!!!
If it happened to me I would have all photos evidence ready then go and ask the person and show them.
I have asked for photos CCTV and no one has sent me anything. Now I’m standing my ground with no evidence why am I being accused?

I got taken to court regarding a bar bill we never paid for a huge party we had, I had paid half but subsequently we had gone over the tab. I didn’t pay it due to disagreements relating to other things relating to the day. I demanded to see a bill for 10 months and it never materialized.
In court I had every email/correspondence and I had sent them copy’s.
The company which turns over millions every year turned up with nothing but a big shot lawyer, they didn’t even have the evidence I had sent them. Judge ruled in 5 mins on compensation for us.

Deja Vu?

[Aiminghigh123]

pavarotti1980 said:

Aiminghigh123 said:

At first I did feel bad thinking have I walked between someone’s car and scratched it by mistake not realizing, I’m sure I would remember!!!
If it happened to me I would have all photos evidence ready then go and ask the person and show them.
I have asked for photos CCTV and no one has sent me anything. Now I’m standing my ground with no evidence why am I being accused?

I got taken to court regarding a bar bill we never paid for a huge party we had, I had paid half but subsequently we had gone over the tab. I didn’t pay it due to disagreements relating to other things relating to the day. I demanded to see a bill for 10 months and it never materialized.
In court I had every email/correspondence and I had sent them copy’s.
The company which turns over millions every year turned up with nothing but a big shot lawyer, they didn’t even have the evidence I had sent them. Judge ruled in 5 mins on compensation for us.

Deja Vu?

How big was the bar bill

They claimed £3k!!! When half the people were non drinkers.

I’ve told my mates about this situation and they have all said mate it’s just you.
Unfortunately things do seem to happen to me. Twice gone on holiday arrived at hotel with no hotel reservation even though had an email saying it was booked. When I went to Oz with my mate we got there, no bags. Ah sorry your bags are in LA. We didn’t even go via LA.
Got pulled over as mistaken identity before as well, was in cuffs and everything until I gave my name.

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garyhun said:

This is all starting to smell like BS to me.

What the scratch?

Not BS at all but having had no response from the car park or BMW man maybe they are back tracking?

Seriously my misses thinks I am cursed even on our honeymoon we got bumped from the flight.

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Olivergt said:

OP, couple of questions.

1. Have you spoken to HR about this? This has nothing to do with your employer or employment.

2. Is the car you are accused of scratching, still parked in the car park every day? If so, have you had a look at it to see if there is actually a scratch on it, you could take your own photos of this if you want, make sure you have some of your own evidence in case it gets messy and before he has it repaired.

No haven’t spoken to HR.

I’m still on paternity leave, went in for 2 KIT days but this was before I was told about the scratch.