Worrying letter from the Police!

Worrying letter from the Police!

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Derek Smith

45,661 posts

248 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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The letter should not be worrying. I assume that was a bit of hyperbole.

Is it the police or a SCP?

If it's the police, then the that they've kept your data is probably covered by various permisssions. However, using it for direct mail is not, I would suggest, completely in conformity to the regulations. I would guess that there's nothing malicious about it. I expect it is someone who has had a 'good idea' and wants to look good on the next board. Police tend to stick to criminal law and any regulations that they have to cover. They've just failed to check.

If you're worried, I'd write a letter to the source. If you feel vindictive, the ICO is next, but it is upping the ante a little.

I could tell you some stories, but I'm saving them for the next book.


silentbrown

8,838 posts

116 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Borghetto said:
I read somwhere the Chief Constable of Durham sends out Birthday Cards to drug dealers. It keeps them on their toes as it reminds them they're on the Police's radar - Good idea.
Shouldn't he be sending them cakes instead?


Oilchange

8,462 posts

260 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Send them a photo of your nob and a letter saying 'Since it's the new year I'd like to send you a picture of my nob'

Flumpo

3,743 posts

73 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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I can sort of see the funny side and I can see how it might stop people from creeping back up the speedo getting a reminder.

If you’re still furious and want an apology I would try this:

Put on a dress and some makeup (apply it yourself, the worse the better) and head down the local station.

Demand to speak to the most senior person as you have been the victim of a hate crime. Tell them they have sent you a letter addressed to ‘mr’ despite the fact you identify as a woman. This is against your human rights and you are contacting the police ombudsman.

Inform them the guardian are doing an article on it and Owen Jones has tweeted about it and has thousands retweet’s.

Sit back and wait for the grovelling apology.

Or just move on, their heart was in the right place.

Graveworm

8,496 posts

71 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Derek Smith said:
The letter should not be worrying. I assume that was a bit of hyperbole.

Is it the police or a SCP?

If it's the police, then the that they've kept your data is probably covered by various permisssions. However, using it for direct mail is not, I would suggest, completely in conformity to the regulations.
How could writing to someone who has previously broken the law, asking them not to break the law again be anything other than the purpose of preventing..... criminal offences.

0a

23,901 posts

194 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Shows the need for budget cuts to go deeper if they have cash to spend on this nonsense.

CanAm

Original Poster:

9,206 posts

272 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Derek Smith said:
The letter should not be worrying. I assume that was a bit of hyperbole.

Is it the police or a SCP?.........
Maybe I should have called it A "Worrying" Letter from the Police? It was only worrying for a moment when I saw the photo, before I read the charming letter. It doesn't bother me in the slightest and I certainly won't be complaining to anyone.

It came from Sussex Police, not the SCP, and was signed in person by a Chief Supt. I'd write and thank him for his good wishes but then they'd have my fingerprints too........ smile

LarsG

991 posts

75 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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It's actually quite demeaning, it assumes that you need to be reminding that you were a naughty boy but maybe it's just how the nanny state is progressing.


Red 4

10,744 posts

187 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Graveworm said:
How could writing to someone who has previously broken the law, asking them not to break the law again be anything other than the purpose of preventing..... criminal offences.
Speeding isn't a criminal offence. (You don't get a criminal record).

It's a condescending, patronising, treating people like children waste of time.

The op did his course. End of story. No need for silly letters or reminders.

Presumably people are employed to trawl the database and send out the letters.
If there was ever a non-job, this is it.

Complete waste of time, money and effort ( and another way of alienating the public ).

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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0a said:
Shows the need for budget cuts to go deeper if they have cash to spend on this nonsense.
Where’s the funding from? Is it within the self-funding SCPs which can’t be used elsewhere, or from somewhere else?

I expect the former so it doesn’t really matter.

Graveworm

8,496 posts

71 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Red 4 said:
Speeding isn't a criminal offence. (You don't get a criminal record).

It's a condescending, patronising, treating people like children waste of time.

The op did his course. End of story. No need for silly letters or reminders.

Presumably people are employed to trawl the database and send out the letters.
If there was ever a non-job, this is it.

Complete waste of time, money and effort ( and another way of alienating the public ).
I agree with everything you said. I was just dealing with the data issue.

Its a criminal offence, being not recordable doesn't change that. The police are charged with the prevention and detection of crime.

I have previously said I personally have little faith in the benefits of preventing and detecting speeding offences, that doesn't mean they are not supposed to prevent and detect speeding and all the non recordable offences.

0a

23,901 posts

194 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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La Liga said:
0a said:
Shows the need for budget cuts to go deeper if they have cash to spend on this nonsense.
Where’s the funding from? Is it within the self-funding SCPs which can’t be used elsewhere, or from somewhere else?

I expect the former so it doesn’t really matter.
Policing should not be based on the creation of easy to pursue profitable “offences” that can be hived off into “partnerships” that are “self funding”. That’s just a scam and a way of maximising police resources doing pointless things.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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It’s not based on that.

The resources wouldn’t otherwise be there / exist.


Graveworm

8,496 posts

71 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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0a said:
Policing should not be based on the creation of easy to pursue profitable “offences” that can be hived off into “partnerships” that are “self funding”. That’s just a scam and a way of maximising police resources doing pointless things.
Just so it's clear SCPs (Fewer and fewer are being called that) these days get no direct or ring fenced funding, they are not self funded by any measure other than £45 per diversion course, but I doubt fizz to bang they do any more than cover the cost of their part in the courses.

Local authorities get a sum of money, intended for road safety, from the government; this is based on a formula. They get the same amount if they issue a million tickets or no tickets. They don't have to spend any of the money on road safety, if they don't want to, and I don't think any spend it all on safety cameras any more.

Cold

15,247 posts

90 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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How can they be wasting time on things like this when there's still people writing mean things on Facebook?

Ed.

2,173 posts

238 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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Perhaps it's a desperate cry for help from a lonely person in search of a penpal. The official element was concluded with the course so this could be an informal request for future discussion and should be treated as such.

mattyprice4004

1,327 posts

174 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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danspec said:
Shut up, and look at yourself making all the stupid comments about rage etc. Full on keyboard knob mode - I don’t care for your assessment on my daily life so shut up.

You think that is acceptable that they can send you letter 18 months later for an offence deemed by the establishment to be a minor enough to sit in a classroom for a talking too. More fool you!

As for the gdpr comments etc

I bet you lot are the ones filling in questionnaires on face book on what was you first pet and your pornstar names!!
Whichever drugs you’re on clearly don’t agree with you, put the crack pipe down and go for an angry fap.

Red Devil

13,060 posts

208 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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markjmd said:
More to the point though, it's distinctly unbritish. With rampant unsolicited communication taking off at this rate, next thing you know complete strangers will be strking up conversations with one another on commuter trains, or heavens forbid, the Tube!

It just won't do.
You forgot PH. hehe

Graveworm said:
Just so it's clear SCPs (Fewer and fewer are being called that)...
Doesn't matter how many times you apply a different brand to the animal, it's still the same cow.

Kuji

785 posts

122 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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roadsmash said:
danspec said:
I would be furious if I received a letter like that in post!

It has to breaking some rule somewhere? Gdpr or something.
GDPR. LOL.
One day, someone will put up the ultimate meme of somone with crossed arms and a grumpy Look on a snowflake for a head.

danspec

555 posts

166 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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mattyprice4004 said:
Whichever drugs you’re on clearly don’t agree with you, put the crack pipe down and go for an angry fap.
Is that how you deal with life - that would make you a wker.

All the pisstake bravado “does bother me etc” “why are you bothered” is rubbish if it dropped on your mat you’d be posting on here.

Why are you even posting if it doesn’t bother you.........

you think your quips are funny crack on. I’m old enough to realise that some people just idiots without a clue and in real life nobody bothers with so they make “funny” statements.