Road rage attack, police 'building' a case?

[numtumfutunch]

coldel said:

Seriously. Has no one slating the FIL on here ever edged a driver out of changing lane who they thought was being a bit cheeky? OK we havent seen the footage he could have been a bit naughty and deliberately blocked the guy out - regardless the response was massively disproportionate.

Disproportionate, no argument

However the lane change taking place half a mile from a slip road made me consider it differently from one immediately at the junction. Conjecture obviously

[JimbobVFR]

numtumfutunch said:

Disproportionate, no argument

However the lane change taking place half a mile from a slip road made me consider it differently from one immediately at the junction. Conjecture obviously

It's not 100% clear from the OP but that's not how I read it. I think it's more likely the altercation happened after the junction, the other driver deciding getting angry with the van driver as more important than taking the turning.

[roadsmash]

coldel said:

Seriously. Has no one slating the FIL on here ever edged a driver out of changing lane who they thought was being a bit cheeky? OK we havent seen the footage he could have been a bit naughty and deliberately blocked the guy out - regardless the response was massively disproportionate.

If you’re willing to use your 1-2 ton vehicle to stop someone’s maneavure then you should be equally willing to get out the car for a punch up.

If you’re not, then don’t antagonise others.

Very very simple.

[carinaman]

dudleybloke said:

Escort3500 said:

rambo19 said:

hutchst said:

I'm just curious, but how did you know the other fella was 61?

This.

We’re still waiting OP

Was he wearing a "made in 1958" t-shirt?

strain said:

Heard absolutely nothing since apart from CPS are building a case. dash cam clearly shows the full encounter, clear registration and photos of the driver. The police person I spoke to said 'if its the guy i think / I'm pretty sure it is' so we know they could identify the guy off previous record.

The police told the OP?

[Carrot]

roadsmash said:

coldel said:

Seriously. Has no one slating the FIL on here ever edged a driver out of changing lane who they thought was being a bit cheeky? OK we havent seen the footage he could have been a bit naughty and deliberately blocked the guy out - regardless the response was massively disproportionate.

If you’re willing to use your 1-2 ton vehicle to stop someone’s maneavure then you should be equally willing to get out the car for a punch up.

If you’re not, then don’t antagonise others.

Very very simple.

[coldel]

roadsmash said:

If you’re willing to use your 1-2 ton vehicle to stop someone’s maneavure then you should be equally willing to get out the car for a punch up.

If you’re not, then don’t antagonise others.

Very very simple.

Really? Jesus. So if you block someone who (lets assume has driven in a way to antagonise that person to block them in the first instance) then you should be willing to get out the car and be willing to be murdered by the other person. If you get murdered, then on your own head be it for not letting a driver in. So an 80 year old granny blocks a 19 year old lad off, she absolutely should expect to get out the car and fight this 19 year old right? Or maybe you block someone off, you get out and the other guy is ex-military and paralyses you for life, you would be there in your wheelchair using your right eye blinking to communicate to tell your family 'yeah I deserved that I hold nothing against the guy at all'. So I assume for the 80 year old example, you are saying or even advocating that if the 19 year old grabs her and stabs her, thats fine as she shouldnt have blocked him off - you are advocating this right?

Maybe its a PH thing but I don't know anyone who would sign up to that trail of thought, if you do, you need to change friends very quickly as you clearly are spending time with fking psychos.

Edited by coldel on Wednesday 23 January 13:56

Edited by coldel on Wednesday 23 January 13:59

[Pica-Pica]

coldel said:

Really? Jesus. So if you block someone who (lets assume has driven in a way to antagonise that person to block them in the first instance) then you should be willing to get out the car and be willing to be murdered by the other person. If you get murdered, then on your own head be it for not letting a driver in. So an 80 year old granny blocks a 19 year old lad off, she absolutely should expect to get out the car and fight this 19 year old right? Or maybe you block someone off, you get out and the other guy is ex-military and paralyses you for life, you would be there in your wheelchair using your right eye blinking to communicate to tell your family 'yeah I deserved that I hold nothing against the guy at all'. So I assume for the 80 year old example, you are saying or even advocating that if the 19 year old grabs her and stabs her, thats fine as she shouldnt have blocked him off - you are advocating this right?

Maybe its a PH thing but I don't know anyone who would sign up to that trail of thought, if you do, you need to change friends very quickly as you clearly are spending time with fking psychos.

Edited by coldel on Wednesday 23 January 13:56

Edited by coldel on Wednesday 23 January 13:59

Hmmm. That is a distinct failure to understand the hypothesis.

Some people get so wound up behind a keyboard - how could they be trusted behind a wheel?

[coldel]

Pica-Pica said:

Hmmm. That is a distinct failure to understand the hypothesis.

Some people get so wound up behind a keyboard - how could they be trusted behind a wheel?

Not really, completely understand but showing how easy it is to demonstrate how that sort of completely ridiculous statement falls on its arse. Just because a tiny tiny minority of people think that getting out the car is an option and should be expected when a minor thing on the road happens, doesn't mean the rest of the sane world signs up to the same chav-like ideology. I can imagine two 'wannbe tough guys chavs' in cars might share the same thoughts but the majority of road users accept that minor things like this happen and do not required exiting the car to potentially murder the other person.

Yes how could you trust me behind the wheel after two decades of problem free driving across the world in dozens of different cars. Just because I despair sometimes at the stupidity of some comments on here doesn't mean it transfers in to a completely different task such as driving a car. Using that apparent linkage I could say given you have made a completely incorrect statement, how could you possibly be trusted to make correct decisions behind a wheel also.

[coldel]

Pica-Pica said:

Hmmm. That is a distinct failure to understand the hypothesis.

Some people get so wound up behind a keyboard - how could they be trusted behind a wheel?

Not really, completely understand but showing how easy it is to demonstrate how that sort of completely ridiculous statement falls on its arse. Just because a tiny tiny minority of people think that getting out the car is an option and should be expected when a minor thing on the road happens, doesn't mean the rest of the sane world signs up to the same chav-like ideology. I can imagine two 'wannbe tough guys chavs' in cars might share the same thoughts but the majority of road users accept that minor things like this happen and do not required exiting the car to potentially murder the other person.

Yes how could you trust me behind the wheel after two decades of problem free driving across the world in dozens of different cars. Just because I despair sometimes at the stupidity of some comments on here doesn't mean it transfers in to a completely different task such as driving a car. Using that apparent linkage I could say given you have made a completely incorrect statement, how could you possibly be trusted to make correct decisions behind a wheel also.

[Pothole]

coldel said:

Seriously. Has no one slating the FIL on here ever edged a driver out of changing lane who they thought was being a bit cheeky? OK we havent seen the footage he could have been a bit naughty and deliberately blocked the guy out - regardless the response was massively disproportionate.

I don't see anyone disagreeing that the response was disproportionate. The van driver had no reason for his obstinate behaviour and has now learned a valuable lesson, however. I'm sure we've all been similarly obstructive in the past.
I don't bother with any of this silliness these days for exactly this reason. Moreover, I have no reason to believe that if every single driver who attempted to "cut in" was treated the same that their behaviour would change in the slightest. Morons are morons. Aggressive borderline psycho morons, more so. For the sake of the quarter of a second the moron cutting in will cost me, I'm happy to let them think they've won something.
Driving isn't a competition and I'm rarely in so much of a hurry that the same quarter second is important either. If more of us relaxed behind the wheel, we'd all get where we're going a lot quicker.

[poo at Paul's]

These two both sound a like a couple of spangletts, I for one would love to see the footage!!

With 132 years life experience between them you'd think they could have sorted out a merger lane to lane without £500 worth of damage and wasting st loads of the police's time / taxpayer's money.

[Terminator X]

tinnitusjosh said:

Those victim blaming, keyboard warrior pricks on PH who spout all this "he got what was coming" BS are equally as appalling as anyone who blames a female victim of an assault for wearing 'provocative' clothing. The man didn't allow someone to cut him up and had an unnecessary row with another driver, and somehow he deserved to have his van smashed up and for someone to threaten to kill him??

That attitude is feeble and disgusting and is by far the worst thing about this forum.

Tbf smile and wave is perhaps a better attitude in any road rage situation, served me well for 10 years or so as no one has killed me or threatened to do so in that time.

TX.

[vonhosen]

I wonder OP, would FIL do the same again next time in the circumstances?

[DickyC]

Terminator X said:

Tbf smile and wave is perhaps a better attitude in any road rage situation, served me well for 10 years or so as no one has killed me or threatened to do so in that time.

TX.

Yup. Make a space, flash them in and they're your best mate for thirty seconds. The bloke behind you is unlikely to make a fuss as he is in the docile queue with you.

[Sa Calobra]

Always amazes me when I see someone blocking someone from filtering.

Interms of updates from the officer he/she can be on nights, rest days, training or simply snowed under with having to respond to incidents and other crimes. CPS can take an age at the moment as well.

It will not have been forgotten about but speak to the FIL and ask how much stress he gets himself in whilst driving, is it good for him? To be working at his age is draining. Especially in constant traffic.

[Trophy Husband]

poo at Paul's said:

spangletts

Insult of the week.

Love it.

Forever in my dictionary.

[otolith]

Driving is a lot safer and less stressful if you try to cooperate rather than compete.

[anonymous-user]

coldel said:

Seriously. Has no one slating the FIL on here ever edged a driver out of changing lane who they thought was being a bit cheeky?

Not for half a mile - that's just playing silly buggers.

(I would add, I generally let people in, and definitely don't stop them. I do this because I don't queue when lanes merge, so I'm on the other end of the deal often, and also because people make mistakes - miss turnings, mis-read road markings, don't know the local layout)

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 23 January 16:21

[anonymous-user]

roadsmash said:

If you’re willing to use your 1-2 ton vehicle to stop someone’s maneavure then you should be equally willing to get out the car for a punch up.

If you’re not, then don’t antagonise others.

Very very simple.

I like this :-)

[C70R]

NGee said:

Sorry but I don't have a lot of sympathy, your FIL could have easily avoided the situation by not being one of the 'wrongs'.

Baiting a road rager rarely ends well.

Agreed. Life is too short to go around trying to be 'right' all the time, and those who do so tend to be as bad/unhappy/stubborn as the 'ragers'.
I'd much rather raise my right foot for a couple of seconds and get on with my day.