Reporting crimes to the police
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Sa Calobra said:
Three of my colleagues were tied up for hours. I was the only one going on blue lights to jobs.
I’d imagine you’d have quite a wait for back up if things start to go pear shaped. I know a response officer that travelled around 25 miles because he was the only available response officer. I dread to think how long back up would have taken if he had of needed it. Sa Calobra said:
ElectricPics said:
A couple of weeks ago I'm reliably informed Newcastle city centre only had five 24/7 cops on nights. By contrast I'd say the two large McDonalds would have at least ten each.
Three of my colleagues were tied up for hours. I was the only one going on blue lights to jobs. Maybe.
Sa Calobra said:
Response officer can't access Facebook, eBay etc. It has to go to a specialist officer.
No I'm serious.
Regular response officers are pulled left and right and are slaves to the current job queues and 999 calls. There is just no time to commit to actual proper investigation all of the time.
Like the NHS Frontline we are very thinly spread. Manchester has 5,000 front line officers for 2.5million people. About a third of those are on duty at anyone time so that's say 1,500 cops. If it all kicks off like the 2012 riots ALOT of those officers can't deploy to riot duties.
When the government says they've found 10,000 officers to deal with Brexit disorder that's like me telling you your weekends are cancelled and you are working 7 days 12hrs+ with no food or breaks.
A regular response officer normally can go 12hrs without food or rest, running, driving fast and struggling with people.
It's heartbreaking knowing that crooks get away with crime. Believe me but over time the job breaks even the best police officer. Many can and do pass away not long after retirement in their 50's
Really? Nobody on response in your area is open source trained?No I'm serious.
Regular response officers are pulled left and right and are slaves to the current job queues and 999 calls. There is just no time to commit to actual proper investigation all of the time.
Like the NHS Frontline we are very thinly spread. Manchester has 5,000 front line officers for 2.5million people. About a third of those are on duty at anyone time so that's say 1,500 cops. If it all kicks off like the 2012 riots ALOT of those officers can't deploy to riot duties.
When the government says they've found 10,000 officers to deal with Brexit disorder that's like me telling you your weekends are cancelled and you are working 7 days 12hrs+ with no food or breaks.
A regular response officer normally can go 12hrs without food or rest, running, driving fast and struggling with people.
It's heartbreaking knowing that crooks get away with crime. Believe me but over time the job breaks even the best police officer. Many can and do pass away not long after retirement in their 50's
spaximus said:
You may be correct but unless we complain nothing will ever change, but when others complain it appears officers take it as a direct slur on them as individuals. Sitting on Ebay might just lead to the arrest or a prolific burglar so worthwhile to all those who suffer with a burglary so one could argue that is a good thing to do. one could
Over the years I have had three cars stolen, several broken into and my home burgled and I live in a nice area you clearly don't and the response has varied. When my XR2 was stolen, one officer said "what did I expect having a car like that". When the Orion went the officer was the opposite, he couldn't understand why they just give out a crime number because we are insured. Well banks are but if someone stole £10k from there they wouldn't just get a crime number.
The police on the beat cannot win if they are working with hands tied behind their backs by various dictates but attacking the public for daring to question the response and priorities followed is not going to help. it helps about as much as MOPs saying "the police don't care" " the police did nothing". Perhaps they mean the faceless entity and perhaps they mean plod on the beat, who can tell?
Over the years I have had three cars stolen, several broken into and my home burgled and I live in a nice area you clearly don't and the response has varied. When my XR2 was stolen, one officer said "what did I expect having a car like that". When the Orion went the officer was the opposite, he couldn't understand why they just give out a crime number because we are insured. Well banks are but if someone stole £10k from there they wouldn't just get a crime number.
The police on the beat cannot win if they are working with hands tied behind their backs by various dictates but attacking the public for daring to question the response and priorities followed is not going to help. it helps about as much as MOPs saying "the police don't care" " the police did nothing". Perhaps they mean the faceless entity and perhaps they mean plod on the beat, who can tell?
Pothole said:
spaximus said:
You may be correct but unless we complain nothing will ever change, but when others complain it appears officers take it as a direct slur on them as individuals. Sitting on Ebay might just lead to the arrest or a prolific burglar so worthwhile to all those who suffer with a burglary so one could argue that is a good thing to do. one could
Over the years I have had three cars stolen, several broken into and my home burgled and I live in a nice area you clearly don't and the response has varied. When my XR2 was stolen, one officer said "what did I expect having a car like that". When the Orion went the officer was the opposite, he couldn't understand why they just give out a crime number because we are insured. Well banks are but if someone stole £10k from there they wouldn't just get a crime number.
The police on the beat cannot win if they are working with hands tied behind their backs by various dictates but attacking the public for daring to question the response and priorities followed is not going to help. it helps about as much as MOPs saying "the police don't care" " the police did nothing". Perhaps they mean the faceless entity and perhaps they mean plod on the beat, who can tell?
Over the years I have had three cars stolen, several broken into and my home burgled and I live in a nice area you clearly don't and the response has varied. When my XR2 was stolen, one officer said "what did I expect having a car like that". When the Orion went the officer was the opposite, he couldn't understand why they just give out a crime number because we are insured. Well banks are but if someone stole £10k from there they wouldn't just get a crime number.
The police on the beat cannot win if they are working with hands tied behind their backs by various dictates but attacking the public for daring to question the response and priorities followed is not going to help. it helps about as much as MOPs saying "the police don't care" " the police did nothing". Perhaps they mean the faceless entity and perhaps they mean plod on the beat, who can tell?
This was in fairness 15 years ago for the cars the burglary was 4 years ago but the house burglary was treated right on the day and once I had found some of the goods on Ebay they did well on that. We now have a monitored alarm system, the old one was not so when it went of it was ignored, so trying to protect ourselves a bit more.
On this thread, I have never once criticized the officers at the sharp end, they have a thankless task however the public have a right to expect a service they pay for, should they pay more, well most would be happy if it was spent on crimes that affect them, not ones that are made into focus crimes with few victims, but the reality if people continue to shrug their shoulders and say nothing, nothing will change.
Police funding should be a big issue for the public and it is only when you need them do people understand how stretched they are. That is where the comments of the Police don't care come, they equate lack of action with lack of will and the two are not the same. Every officer in the main has been professional and wanted to help but they couldn't due to various reasons.
dasbimmerowner said:
Still all quiet? I'm in Wirral too; further up the coast, but I'm just about to switch my car, can do without any hassle, was thinking an estate wouldn't be high on criminals lists!
An Estate - so with more space for stolen items, no they wouldn't want one of those...V8RX7 said:
An Estate - so with more space for stolen items, no they wouldn't want one of those...
Yes, thanks for that. Estates, be they fast or not, tend to have long wheelbases so I'd have thought they'd be far less desirable to most scum who'd surely prefer the sharper handling and easier darting between bollards that the likes of an S3/Golf R/Cupra/RS/Amg45 etc offer. I'm quite aware that buying anything with some poke will attract some attention. I'm just a little surprised that someone would go back multiple times for an estate car when, knowing the area well, there are far far more expensive motors around, plenty of which will have the space (in the form of high powered SUVs, eg Porsche Cayenne/Macan/XseriesM etc. Anyhow, I hope it's all calmed down now OP, if plod can catch them surely they could be done for going equipped. If not keep badgering the police. After a Golf R went missing near me I noticed on my security cameras that we started getting regular police patrols in the middle of the night. Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff