Reporting crimes to the police
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yonex said:
The same old excuses.
Crime, like burglary is totally out of control in parts of the country. Yet, we'll spend hours and hours investigating BS 'perverting the course' charges for speeding.
The priorities are making money.
All very interesting and all well beyond the control of the front line. If your PCOJ comment is about the deliberate lies of a sitting MP, how was that not in the public interest? That sort of thing devalues your already poor "argument".Crime, like burglary is totally out of control in parts of the country. Yet, we'll spend hours and hours investigating BS 'perverting the course' charges for speeding.
The priorities are making money.
yonex said:
The same old excuses.
Crime, like burglary is totally out of control in parts of the country. Yet, we'll spend hours and hours investigating BS 'perverting the course' charges for speeding.
The priorities are making money.
The burglary resources aren't used for investigating those that you are talking about, Roads Policing resources are used for it.Crime, like burglary is totally out of control in parts of the country. Yet, we'll spend hours and hours investigating BS 'perverting the course' charges for speeding.
The priorities are making money.
Burglary has a finite amount of resources assigned to it, as does Roads Policing.
Burglary has to spread & prioritise it's resources across all the offences it is responsible for investigating.
Roads Policing has to spread & prioritise it's resources across all of the offences it is responsible for investigating.
There are far more resources assigned to burglary investigation than Roads Policing, yet there are far more Roads Policing offences than burglary offences.
That situation exists because burglary is a far greater priority than Roads Policing, but Roads Policing can't be ignored totally.
vonhosen said:
The burglary resources aren't used for investigating those that you are talking about, Roads Policing resources are used for it.
Burglary has a finite amount of resources assigned to it, as does Roads Policing.
Burglary has to spread & prioritise it's resources across all the offences it is responsible for investigating.
Roads Policing has to spread & prioritise it's resources across all of the offences it is responsible for investigating.
There are far more resources assigned to burglary investigation than Roads Policing, yet there are far more Roads Policing offences than burglary offences.
That situation exists because burglary is a far greater priority than Roads Policing, but Roads Policing can't be ignored totally.
Everyone I know who has had the devastating poor fortune to suffer from the hands of these scumbags reports a similar tale. One of a lack of interest and precious little follow up, let alone a prosecution. Burglary has a finite amount of resources assigned to it, as does Roads Policing.
Burglary has to spread & prioritise it's resources across all the offences it is responsible for investigating.
Roads Policing has to spread & prioritise it's resources across all of the offences it is responsible for investigating.
There are far more resources assigned to burglary investigation than Roads Policing, yet there are far more Roads Policing offences than burglary offences.
That situation exists because burglary is a far greater priority than Roads Policing, but Roads Policing can't be ignored totally.
Chainsaw Rebuild said:
This sounds like a massive pain in the behind op. Maybe now is the time to upgrade the security; get new windows, fit and lock a gate, fit a flood light etc.
Barrrring cctv and new Windows I'd already done everything, I've now done it all , including inconveniencing myself by parking both cars blocking each other in , however , as I said to my neighbour , it shouldn't be up to scrotes to dictate how I live my life , where I choose to live or what I choose to buy or drive . As far as I'm concerned this lot already owe me a couple of days labour and a few hundred quid !
Cctv is in and that's what I caught the f
ker on , bold as brass half one in the morning trying to drag the glazing unit out of the frame . I ran downstairs with my equaliser stick and straight outside , I'd expected them back so had trainers and top ready , their lookout obviously saw the lights come on and they were gone . If they come back they'll maybe get a suprise as to how much people don't like thieves ! 
yonex said:
Everyone I know who has had the devastating poor fortune to suffer from the hands of these scumbags reports a similar tale. One of a lack of interest and precious little follow up, let alone a prosecution.
Yet the courts are busy all day long. That must be just driving offences, eh?yonex said:
La Liga said:
Ever had a car stolen yourself?I think you may have a slightly different response?
This is the problem with the Police. They are so arrogant they don't actually think that there is a problem.
Your response is to talk about vehicle theft.
My advise is not to write things you can't support.
yonex said:
Ever had a car stolen yourself?
I think you may have a slightly different response?
This is the problem with the Police. They are so arrogant they don't actually think that there is a problem.
Define "the police" as you see it. Do you mean everyone involved from Chief Constables to PCSOs and police staff? If not, who do you mean?I think you may have a slightly different response?
This is the problem with the Police. They are so arrogant they don't actually think that there is a problem.
That graph must surely have a big spike in 2018... We all know it.
I don't blame the police much - its 90% the government. We've never been so wealthy as a nation but when we were 'poorer' in the 70's most of us had a copper based at a police station where you lived. My village was tiny at about 800 people... The copper (bought a motorbike off him when I was 17 & he used to cut me a snidge more slack
) even knew the name of the dogs in the village... Doors were left unlocked overnight as were cars. Fast forward to this week and I just installed CCTV in my old mums house in the village. And a car was nicked there this week too. NEVER was a a car nicked when I was growing up - unheard of.
I'd politely suggest that we are all being taken for mugs by successive governments - especially this one. This stuff is basics and the coppers' top brass should grow a pair rather than shrug. Criminals are empowered and citizens treated with contempt. Every day I grow more disappointed in this mismanaged island. And i'm pretty chipper usually!
I don't blame the police much - its 90% the government. We've never been so wealthy as a nation but when we were 'poorer' in the 70's most of us had a copper based at a police station where you lived. My village was tiny at about 800 people... The copper (bought a motorbike off him when I was 17 & he used to cut me a snidge more slack
) even knew the name of the dogs in the village... Doors were left unlocked overnight as were cars. Fast forward to this week and I just installed CCTV in my old mums house in the village. And a car was nicked there this week too. NEVER was a a car nicked when I was growing up - unheard of. I'd politely suggest that we are all being taken for mugs by successive governments - especially this one. This stuff is basics and the coppers' top brass should grow a pair rather than shrug. Criminals are empowered and citizens treated with contempt. Every day I grow more disappointed in this mismanaged island. And i'm pretty chipper usually!
I’m sure “reported” crime is down, because people realise there is absolutely no point reporting it.
I would only report something if it was absolutely essential for insurance purposes. And I would never report any crime that was happening to someone else, in case the police decided to try and prosecute me for some minor offence they’ve fabricated. I don’t trust them, not one iota.
I would only report something if it was absolutely essential for insurance purposes. And I would never report any crime that was happening to someone else, in case the police decided to try and prosecute me for some minor offence they’ve fabricated. I don’t trust them, not one iota.
zarjaz1991 said:
I’m sure “reported” crime is down, because people realise there is absolutely no point reporting it.
I would only report something if it was absolutely essential for insurance purposes. And I would never report any crime that was happening to someone else, in case the police decided to try and prosecute me for some minor offence they’ve fabricated. I don’t trust them, not one iota.
Not one iota unless there’s an insurance payout? I would only report something if it was absolutely essential for insurance purposes. And I would never report any crime that was happening to someone else, in case the police decided to try and prosecute me for some minor offence they’ve fabricated. I don’t trust them, not one iota.
La Liga said:
ou asserted that burglary was 'out of control in parts of the country'. I challenged that by posting overall burglary numbers which have been on a long-term downtrend.
Your response is to talk about vehicle theft.
My advise is not to write things you can't support.
It's too easy to trip you up.Your response is to talk about vehicle theft.
My advise is not to write things you can't support.
DOMESTIC BURGLARY RISES BY 30% – NEW CRIME FIGURES SHOW
I'd say you need to do some reading?
Let's factor in that nobody really has any faith in the Police anyway so reported crime is going to be down. You obviously are a little blinkered.
yonex said:
La Liga said:
ou asserted that burglary was 'out of control in parts of the country'. I challenged that by posting overall burglary numbers which have been on a long-term downtrend.
Your response is to talk about vehicle theft.
My advise is not to write things you can't support.
It's too easy to trip you up.Your response is to talk about vehicle theft.
My advise is not to write things you can't support.
DOMESTIC BURGLARY RISES BY 30% – NEW CRIME FIGURES SHOW
I'd say you need to do some reading?
Let's factor in that nobody really has any faith in the Police anyway so reported crime is going to be down. You obviously are a little blinkered.
Our Watch said:
Indeed figures from the separate Crime Survey of England and Wales (CSEW) – also released today – and which are based on people’s experiences, suggests crime continues to fall.
Have another go. yonex said:
La Liga said:
ou asserted that burglary was 'out of control in parts of the country'. I challenged that by posting overall burglary numbers which have been on a long-term downtrend.
Your response is to talk about vehicle theft.
My advise is not to write things you can't support.
It's too easy to trip you up.Your response is to talk about vehicle theft.
My advise is not to write things you can't support.
DOMESTIC BURGLARY RISES BY 30% – NEW CRIME FIGURES SHOW
I'd say you need to do some reading?
Let's factor in that nobody really has any faith in the Police anyway so reported crime is going to be down. You obviously are a little blinkered.
report said:
The latest recorded crime figures also show there were 261,915 domestic burglaries in the year to September 2017 – a rise of 32%.
However it is important to note that these levels are nowhere near the levels seen in the 1990s when crime peaked.
Indeed figures from the separate Crime Survey of England and Wales (CSEW) – also released today – and which are based on people’s experiences, suggests crime continues to fall.
This survey, based on interviews with 35,000 households in England and Wales, includes crimes that people do not report to police.
So if we include unreported crime, the trend is actually downward.However it is important to note that these levels are nowhere near the levels seen in the 1990s when crime peaked.
Indeed figures from the separate Crime Survey of England and Wales (CSEW) – also released today – and which are based on people’s experiences, suggests crime continues to fall.
This survey, based on interviews with 35,000 households in England and Wales, includes crimes that people do not report to police.
If you want to play with statistics then consider that those who advise not bothering to report incidents simply help to support the statistical perception that crime is falling.
And if crime is falling the politicians believe the police are obviously doing a wonderful job with what they've got so we can cut their budgets & consequently the number of officers available to respond to incidents.
And if crime is falling the politicians believe the police are obviously doing a wonderful job with what they've got so we can cut their budgets & consequently the number of officers available to respond to incidents.
paintman said:
If you want to play with statistics then consider that those who advise not bothering to report incidents simply help to support the statistical perception that crime is falling.
And if crime is falling the politicians believe the police are obviously doing a wonderful job with what they've got so we can cut their budgets & consequently the number of officers available to respond to incidents.
As above, there are various ways to capture crime data. These includes ways to gather data from people who do not report to the police. And if crime is falling the politicians believe the police are obviously doing a wonderful job with what they've got so we can cut their budgets & consequently the number of officers available to respond to incidents.
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