Reporting crimes to the police
Discussion
yonex said:
La Liga said:
either of which are supported by the available data / evidence and what I've responded to.
You're naive and really don't want to listen. Why is this the preserve of those on this site with no garage and no general interest in cars?I don't need you to tell me there are people who are dissatisfied with the police. Those people are present and accounted for in the aforementioned data I talk of.
This site has somewhat evolved beyond cars. You have no idea about my interest or lack of it etc.
La Liga said:
t's naive to think your judgement is superior to what the evidence indicates is the case.
I don't need you to tell me there are people who are dissatisfied with the police. Those people are present and accounted for in the aforementioned data I talk of.
This site has somewhat evolved beyond cars. You have no idea about my interest or lack of it etc.
It’s fairly obvious. As is your attitude towards anything other than your own beliefs. You’re very much wrong if you feel that people are satisfied with the Police. As for this site, it’s still a car site, I do wonder why non enthusiasts bother? I don't need you to tell me there are people who are dissatisfied with the police. Those people are present and accounted for in the aforementioned data I talk of.
This site has somewhat evolved beyond cars. You have no idea about my interest or lack of it etc.
Chainsaw Rebuild said:
Good luck with your night shift op.
I must agree with the general consensus; as much as I am a fan of the police, there is far too much time and money spent of speeding enforcement and PC nonsense and not enough on crimes that matter.
You might think too much time and money is spent on speed enforcement but it's absolutely minimal compared to everything else.I must agree with the general consensus; as much as I am a fan of the police, there is far too much time and money spent of speeding enforcement and PC nonsense and not enough on crimes that matter.
Traffic units are tiny, response won't have time etc. The only time I see it round here is maybe a PCSO with some local high visibility vest wearing beard doing a community speed watch every few months.
yonex said:
It’s fairly obvious. As is your attitude towards anything other than your own beliefs. You’re very much wrong if you feel that people are satisfied with the Police. As for this site, it’s still a car site, I do wonder why non enthusiasts bother?
My beliefs reflect the evidence. There are people who are satisfied with the police. Just as there are people who are dissatisfied.
Whether you accept it or not is irrelevant as far as what the data / evidence indicate / conclude.
La Liga said:
y beliefs reflect the evidence.
There are people who are satisfied with the police. Just as there are people who are dissatisfied.
Whether you accept it or not is irrelevant as far as what the data / evidence indicate / conclude.
No. The opposite. There are people who are satisfied with the police. Just as there are people who are dissatisfied.
Whether you accept it or not is irrelevant as far as what the data / evidence indicate / conclude.
The reality is people don't have much faith in the Police. That's because of the results.
yonex said:
No. The opposite.
The reality is people don't have much faith in the Police. That's because of the results.
Which people? How many? How are you measuring that? How do you know it's linked to 'the results'? The reality is people don't have much faith in the Police. That's because of the results.
You have no idea because you're making it up as you go along and are arrogant enough to think your world view and opinions trumps the actual research into the subject matter.
Don't know why the Home Office / ONS bothers with all the fancy statistical surveying stuff, they should just ask yonex from PH because he knows better than they do
warch said:
Oh forgot to say, my family dog provides excellent round the clock notice of anyone intruding on the property, it's a great deterrent as no thief is going to be happy to proceed with a dog going mental barking, shortly to be followed someone coming to investigate.
I've got a dog , unfortunately it's 16 years old , stone deaf and going blind ! A few years ago it would have given its life for us , the night of the attempted burglary when I saw the thief at the window on cctv and gave chase , the wife went into the room the dog sleeps in that was also the room the thief tried to gain access to the house to ring the cops and the dog never stirred once . Hey , we all get old !
The weathers s
t on the Wirral tonight , noisy wind , rain and hailstones , it's a good night for a robbery . I'll report in later as part of night shift , I've got the equaliser handy !
It's a poor state of affairs when this behaviour becomes necessary
La Liga said:
hich people? How many? How are you measuring that? How do you know it's linked to 'the results'?
You have no idea because you're making it up as you go along and are arrogant enough to think your world view and opinions trumps the actual research into the subject matter.
Don't know why the Home Office / ONS bothers with all the fancy statistical surveying stuff, they should just ask yonex from PH because he knows better than they do
Read the general theme of replies in the thread,it's not just me. The Police are a joke.You have no idea because you're making it up as you go along and are arrogant enough to think your world view and opinions trumps the actual research into the subject matter.
Don't know why the Home Office / ONS bothers with all the fancy statistical surveying stuff, they should just ask yonex from PH because he knows better than they do
yonex said:
La Liga said:
hich people? How many? How are you measuring that? How do you know it's linked to 'the results'?
You have no idea because you're making it up as you go along and are arrogant enough to think your world view and opinions trumps the actual research into the subject matter.
Don't know why the Home Office / ONS bothers with all the fancy statistical surveying stuff, they should just ask yonex from PH because he knows better than they do
Read the general theme of replies in the thread,it's not just me. The Police are a joke.You have no idea because you're making it up as you go along and are arrogant enough to think your world view and opinions trumps the actual research into the subject matter.
Don't know why the Home Office / ONS bothers with all the fancy statistical surveying stuff, they should just ask yonex from PH because he knows better than they do
No one has said there aren't people who dislike / don't trust / don't have confidence etc - I don't think you've managed to get your head around that - the source of this was when you wanted to worm away from your stupid burglary comment so decided to claim a perception issue around the police was on a downtrend, which there is no evidence of.
Your argument consists of your opinion and a few people relaying negative experiences on a forum.
Compelling stuff. Remember to contact the HO and ONS to put them straight.
yonex said:
It’s fairly obvious. As is your attitude towards anything other than your own beliefs. You’re very much wrong if you feel that people are satisfied with the Police. As for this site, it’s still a car site, I do wonder why non enthusiasts bother?
You've made an assumption about him (or her, or them) based on no data. Literally an absence of data. That appears to be your favoured method. Why should anyone bother with you?Pothole said:
You've made an assumption about him (or her, or them) based on no data. Literally an absence of data. That appears to be your favoured method. Why should anyone bother with you?
No, I’ve taken a sample from most people I know and responses in this particular thread.This is why nobody bothers to report crime.
HTH
La Liga said:
A few friends and forum posts have much greater weight than 10s of thousands of people who are asked using a proper methodology 
Just remind me of the stats/graphs/pie charts/questionnaires/figures and various other methodology results in the run up to Trump and brexit.Edited by Down and out on Monday 11th March 04:02
Down and out said:
La Liga said:
A few friends and forum posts have much greater weight than 10s of thousands of people who are asked using a proper methodology
Just remind me of the stats/graphs/pie charts/questionnaires/figures and various other methodology results in the run up to Trump and brexit.If you have a specific issue with the ones I’m talking about then feel free to criticise the specifics of those rather than trying to lazily discredit one with the other.
vonhosen said:
yonex said:
The same old excuses.
Crime, like burglary is totally out of control in parts of the country. Yet, we'll spend hours and hours investigating BS 'perverting the course' charges for speeding.
The priorities are making money.
The burglary resources aren't used for investigating those that you are talking about, Roads Policing resources are used for it.Crime, like burglary is totally out of control in parts of the country. Yet, we'll spend hours and hours investigating BS 'perverting the course' charges for speeding.
The priorities are making money.
Burglary has a finite amount of resources assigned to it, as does Roads Policing.
Burglary has to spread & prioritise it's resources across all the offences it is responsible for investigating.
Roads Policing has to spread & prioritise it's resources across all of the offences it is responsible for investigating.
There are far more resources assigned to burglary investigation than Roads Policing, yet there are far more Roads Policing offences than burglary offences.
That situation exists because burglary is a far greater priority than Roads Policing, but Roads Policing can't be ignored totally.
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