Attacked by security guard - police blaming me!

Attacked by security guard - police blaming me!

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Monkeylegend

26,497 posts

232 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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I think he bumped into Yellowjack yesterday morning, they are having a chinwag.

V1nce Fox

5,508 posts

69 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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Butter Face said:
hehe

Who you donating that fiver to Vince?
oh st i forgot about that! did i bet he'd get off or stay out of prison?

stuartmmcfc

8,666 posts

193 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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This thread really should win the “Most unexpectedly long thread” award at the end of the year PH awards this year.

Butter Face

30,371 posts

161 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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V1nce Fox said:
oh st i forgot about that! did i bet he'd get off or stay out of prison?
V1nce Fox said:
fiver on OP to walk free.
We’ll call it a draw!

V1nce Fox

5,508 posts

69 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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and who did i bet with?!

Red 4

10,744 posts

188 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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Monkeylegend said:
I think he bumped into Yellowjack yesterday morning, they are having a chinwag.
biggrin To be fair Milky' posts are pretty much to the point. Yellowjack strikes me as that nice but, er, talkative neighbour you always try to avoid.

A meeting between Yellowjack and Derek Smith would be quite something to behold. Or not, depending on your perspective.

V1nce Fox

5,508 posts

69 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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Butter Face said:
V1nce Fox said:
oh st i forgot about that! did i bet he'd get off or stay out of prison?
V1nce Fox said:
fiver on OP to walk free.
We’ll call it a draw!
beer

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

73 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Red 4 said:
Monkeylegend said:
I think he bumped into Yellowjack yesterday morning, they are having a chinwag.
biggrin To be fair Milky' posts are pretty much to the point. Yellowjack strikes me as that nice but, er, talkative neighbour you always try to avoid.

A meeting between Yellowjack and Derek Smith would be quite something to behold. Or not, depending on your perspective.
hehe

+ Frank.

ging84

8,933 posts

147 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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I'm not sure I understand the idea of a neighbor you don't try to avoid

TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

206 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Just as a quick reminder

Didn't milky ask for this to be brought to court?

Weren't the police and supermarket keen to leave it as an apology ?

It's like a turkey booking a Xmas shopping slot

Gary C

12,516 posts

180 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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stuartmmcfc said:
This thread really should win the “Most unexpectedly long thread” award at the end of the year PH awards this year.
Really should win the "Follow up" award. Usually OP's vanish into the mists with posts like these.

Bigends

5,424 posts

129 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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TwistingMyMelon said:
Just as a quick reminder

Didn't milky ask for this to be brought to court?

Weren't the police and supermarket keen to leave it as an apology ?

It's like a turkey booking a Xmas shopping slot
OP had to admit being in the wrong for the apology to be issued

longblackcoat

5,047 posts

184 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Bigends said:
TwistingMyMelon said:
Just as a quick reminder

Didn't milky ask for this to be brought to court?

Weren't the police and supermarket keen to leave it as an apology ?

It's like a turkey booking a Xmas shopping slot
OP had to admit being in the wrong for the apology to be issued
Which he was. Despite the many months of wibbling on this thread, it’s always been absolutely certain to me that he’d be found guilty.

fooman

199 posts

65 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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I see many people on this thread now make sure they always get a receipt from self service. Since reading this thread I’ve also made changes to my supermarket visits;

When nicking stuff, I always leave by the correct lane so as not to arouse suspicion.

If a security guard stops me, I’m always polite and co-operative and usually get sent on my way with an apology.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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longblackcoat said:
Which he was. Despite the many months of wibbling on this thread, it’s always been absolutely certain to me that he’d be found guilty.
the fact that independent witnesses said he punched and hit him with a frying pan, whodathunk.

ging84

8,933 posts

147 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Where did the bit about hitting with the frying pan come from? Was it something that came up at trial? Or was it discussed before?

milkround

Original Poster:

1,122 posts

80 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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ging84 said:
Where did the bit about hitting with the frying pan come from? Was it something that came up at trial? Or was it discussed before?
It was something that was said in a statement which the Police accepted even at interview was not correct.

A witness said the SG kicked me because I went towards him with a pan. But at the time of him kicking me I wasn't holding any form of pan (or anything else for that matter). As a witness the same chap said the same thing - but this time said it was a 6 pack of pans (no idea where that came from). He also said the security gaurd managed to kick them from my hands.

It's all clearly nonsense. Anyone who has reviewed the CCTV can see that. Even the Police accepted that and said "anyone can make a mistake". Unfortunately the solicitor who turned up didn't have the CCTV so didn't question this.

For what it's worth I don't think the bloke was intentionally lying. I think in his his head he has put 2 and 2 together an came up with an odd number. Similarly he said other things which were impossible. Like I hit the bloke when my partner was right next to me (she was a good 25ft away when I shoved him). I think you see something and your mind fills in the blanks.

If anyone is really that bothered I can post that part of the CCTV and you can make your own mind up. I'm currently trying to find a brief to go over it all and see if they think it's worth appealing. I'll make my choice after taking legal advice.

BertBert

19,096 posts

212 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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ging84 said:
Where did the bit about hitting with the frying pan come from? Was it something that came up at trial? Or was it discussed before?
Only in the witness statements at trial I believe

kestral

1,743 posts

208 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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milkround said:
It was something that was said in a statement which the Police accepted even at interview was not correct.

A witness said the SG kicked me because I went towards him with a pan. But at the time of him kicking me I wasn't holding any form of pan (or anything else for that matter). As a witness the same chap said the same thing - but this time said it was a 6 pack of pans (no idea where that came from). He also said the security gaurd managed to kick them from my hands.

It's all clearly nonsense. Anyone who has reviewed the CCTV can see that. Even the Police accepted that and said "anyone can make a mistake". Unfortunately the solicitor who turned up didn't have the CCTV so didn't question this.

For what it's worth I don't think the bloke was intentionally lying. I think in his his head he has put 2 and 2 together an came up with an odd number. Similarly he said other things which were impossible. Like I hit the bloke when my partner was right next to me (she was a good 25ft away when I shoved him). I think you see something and your mind fills in the blanks.

If anyone is really that bothered I can post that part of the CCTV and you can make your own mind up. I'm currently trying to find a brief to go over it all and see if they think it's worth appealing. I'll make my choice after taking legal advice.
You only have 21 days to appeal. If you put the appeal in you can withdraw it if you need to.

milkround

Original Poster:

1,122 posts

80 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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kestral said:
You only have 21 days to appeal. If you put the appeal in you can withdraw it if you need to.
With cost implications I believe?

I am googling and a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.