Attacked by security guard - police blaming me!
Discussion
ritch said:
One thing I don't get is why a security guard on minimum wage or certainly low paid, would be putting their safety on the line and engaging in aggressive or violent physical contact.
Because thats why some want to do it.Not able to get into the police but want to feel like a big boy and throw their weight about.
Some, certainly not all, or even most.
MDMA . said:
Been reading this on/off over the last week. If you believe that you've done nothing wrong, just sit at home and wait to be arrested. I'm sure if you were guilty of any offences, you would have been arrested by now.
It is perfectly possible to prosecute someone without ever arresting them - an arrest is just an investigative tool/process which does not need to be used.If OP refuses to attend an interview they may have cause to arrest but equally they could just submit the file to CPS and proceed to prosecution if they feel they have enough evidence - without an interview - the OP having been given a chance to comment and declined.
“I have a solicitor going with me on thursday afternoon. I'll see what they say. I can't do anything other than wait and see now.“
Good move OP.
If you are cautioned, count to 3 before you answer - thinking time for you and your brief.
The police are not your friend. Read that again ..... a few more times.
If your memory is correct and you were assaulted , then please do follow it up because the police seem ineffective, the supermarket uncaring and you will definitely deserve some compo.
Best of luck.
Good move OP.
If you are cautioned, count to 3 before you answer - thinking time for you and your brief.
The police are not your friend. Read that again ..... a few more times.
If your memory is correct and you were assaulted , then please do follow it up because the police seem ineffective, the supermarket uncaring and you will definitely deserve some compo.
Best of luck.
Unbusy said:
If you are cautioned, count to 3 before you answer - thinking time for you and your brief.
? If you’re wanting to give a reply to a caution then you’ve probably left it a little too late if you and your solicitor (?) are leaving yourselves with 3 seconds to think about the reply after being cautioned.
He will be cautioned during the interview introduction. A reply isn’t provided in these circumstances.
Seight_Returns said:
I believe that Unbusy was suggesting that if this is indeed to be an interview under caution, then the OP pauses, thinks and counts to 3 before answering any question.
That sounds like very good advice.
Indeed. OP should spend time with the solicitor in advance and take their counsel on how to answer under caution, what to answer, what not to, that sort of thing. And if he's stuck and doesn't know how to answer the question or is panicking a bit, there's nothing wrong with turning to the solicitor mid-interview and asking "do I have to answer this?" which, if nothing else, gives a bit of breathing time to formulate a response. That sounds like very good advice.
Faz50 said:
Go no comment and hope they haven't seen this thread.
A no comment interview only makes sense when the police don't have sufficient evidence to prove the offence. In this case it seems they have plenty.As others have said - if there's video evidence of him punching someone in the face and a statement from the security guard stating he was the victim of an unprovoked attack - and the OP offers no explanation for his actions - it's a virtual certainty that the police will charge him and submit a file to the CPS recommending a prosecution.
Asking to see the video evidence and then requesting the he be allowed to speak to his solicitor privately before answering any more questions would seem a better approach.
Edited by Seight_Returns on Wednesday 24th April 08:27
Seight_Returns said:
Faz50 said:
Go no comment and hope they haven't seen this thread.
A no comment interview only makes sense when the police don't have sufficient evidence to prove the offence. In this case it seems they have plenty.As others have said - if there's video evidence of him punching someone in the face and a statement from the security guard stating he was the victim of an unprovoked attack - and the OP offers no explanation for his actions - it's a virtual certainty that the police will charge him and submit a file to the CPS recommending a prosecution.
Asking to see the video evidence and then requesting the he be allowed to speak to his solicitor privately before answering any more questions would seem a better approach.
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 24th April 08:27
buggalugs said:
I would wager £3 or maybe even as high as £4 that the police lady who said the CCTV showed whatever, had not actually seen it at that point and was just trying to get the OP to fold and put everything to bed before end of shift.
And I'd bet the opposite. I can think of nothing more unprofessional. Put it this way one of us is going to be hugely embarrassed tomorrow. I'll freely admit right now if the CCTV is as she said I'll want to die on the spot of humiliation. I'd imagine she would be the same if she's made it all up. What I think is far more likely is that the CCTV shows a scuffle which she has watched briefly and has been explained away to her. Her takeaway from it was a security guard was struck. It's not overly important and it's been a few days since she saw it. So she's said no contact with me or my partner. When I've said no she has said she is going to have a think so she can check. She is insure so she has asked her boss. She still thinks I'm out of order for pushing/punching him so is bringing me in to explain myself. She's also probably put herself into a corner by saying what she said on the first call and saying whatever she has said to the supermarket.
I might be well off the mark as well. My first gut reaction after speaking to her is that she was young and a bit daft rather than being malicious. There are a few reasons for that. Not least because she started off a conversation the first time I spoke to her by telling me we had the same name and giggling. I was a bit wtf when I realised she thought I was a criminal and was acting like that. I'll wait and see what she's like in person.
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