5 months and 30 days after speeding

[agtlaw]

Derek Smith said:

I'd write back, pointing out that having the documentation for all that time without dealing with it expeditiously is inappropriate. The 6 months is not a target.

DO NOT DO THIS.

[anonymous-user]

motco said:

Sounds like Marlow Hill in High Wycombe. It's notorious for catching people out.

I agree if that's where the offence was comitted. It's a bugger even going up that hill trying to keep your speed down, down is worse.

[xjay1337]

garyhun said:

motco said:

Sounds like Marlow Hill in High Wycombe. It's notorious for catching people out.

I agree if that's where the offence was comitted. It's a bugger even going up that hill trying to keep your speed down, down is worse.

While I can sympathise if people know it's a high risk area then be ahead of the game and slow down......

[HarmeetJohal1]

garyhun said:

I agree if that's where the offence was comitted. It's a bugger even going up that hill trying to keep your speed down, down is worse.

That's the one!!! It was Marlow hill and she was keeping with the flow of traffic... But speeding is speeding poor girl is really upsets

We have been sent a Single Justice Procedure Notice and have been asked about income etc

[anonymous-user]

xjay1337 said:

garyhun said:

motco said:

Sounds like Marlow Hill in High Wycombe. It's notorious for catching people out.

I agree if that's where the offence was comitted. It's a bugger even going up that hill trying to keep your speed down, down is worse.

While I can sympathise if people know it's a high risk area then be ahead of the game and slow down......

The comments are to do with the fact that it’s a perfectly straight dual carriageway. The temptation to overtake going up is big enough but down you have to ride the brakes continually.

So it’s easy to be ahead of the game when you know it, but the temptation is always there as there are no static cameras.

[agtlaw]

garyhun said:

If we're following the old ACPO guidelines, then 50 is the start point for a summons in a 30mph zone.

It’s 2019, so I’d anticipate a SJPN rather than a summons.

[anonymous-user]

agtlaw said:

garyhun said:

If we're following the old ACPO guidelines, then 50 is the start point for a summons in a 30mph zone.

It’s 2019, so I’d anticipate a SJPN rather than a summons.

Yep, I screwed up there!

[motco]

garyhun said:

xjay1337 said:

garyhun said:

motco said:

Sounds like Marlow Hill in High Wycombe. It's notorious for catching people out.

I agree if that's where the offence was comitted. It's a bugger even going up that hill trying to keep your speed down, down is worse.

While I can sympathise if people know it's a high risk area then be ahead of the game and slow down......

The comments are to do with the fact that it’s a perfectly straight dual carriageway. The temptation to overtake going up is big enough but down you have to ride the brakes continually.

So it’s easy to be ahead of the game when you know it, but the temptation is always there as there are no static cameras.

The 30 section is longer on one carriageway than the other. It is 40mph from near the bottom going up, but 30mph almost all the way down.

[LosingGrip]

agtlaw said:

It’s 2019, so I’d anticipate a SJPN rather than a summons.

Whats the difference? Is it that a judge can deal with it without you attending?

[kestral]

This six month rule (information must be laid within 6 months) is very difficult to assess now.

Court sumonses used to be date stampd so one could see the date the information was laid before the court.

The police do it now(not the court) and it is very difficult to find out when the information was laid.

[Countdown]

agtlaw said:

Derek Smith said:

I'd write back, pointing out that having the documentation for all that time without dealing with it expeditiously is inappropriate. The 6 months is not a target.

DO NOT DO THIS.

OP - do this and let us know what happens.... AGT is making it sound like it’s the legal equivalent of “crossing the streams”....

[Sebba]

kestral said:

This six month rule (information must be laid within 6 months) is very difficult to assess now.

Court sumonses used to be date stampd so one could see the date the information was laid before the court.

The police do it now(not the court) and it is very difficult to find out when the information was laid.

Hi all - would also be interested in this? I also got caught doing a similar offence - got the NIP within the 2 weeks, which I promptly replied to but have not heard anything since.....it is now approaching 6 months since the offence so am wondering whether I need to be doing anything? Is the 6 month span not a hard deadline and there is some leeway in terms of sending you a court summons post this period?

[agtlaw]

Sebba said:

Hi all - would also be interested in this? I also got caught doing a similar offence - got the NIP within the 2 weeks, which I promptly replied to but have not heard anything since.....it is now approaching 6 months since the offence so am wondering whether I need to be doing anything? Is the 6 month span not a hard deadline and there is some leeway in terms of sending you a court summons post this period?

It’s 2019 so forget about getting a summons and you can safety ignore anyone who thinks “laying an information” is contemporary practice. Google: Single Justice Procedure Notice time limit or similar and obviously don’t chase it up before the time limit expires.

[MrBig]

motco said:

Sounds like Marlow Hill in High Wycombe. It's notorious for catching people out.

I was just thinking exactly the same thing. Its a byproduct of there being some horrendous shunts at the bottom of the hill and it being an easy catch IMO. The scamera vans were there regularly when I used to live there and that was well over 10 years ago!

[anonymous-user]

The 'downhill' side of Marlow Hill is a 40 limit from the top to about halfway down, then 30. So if the OPs Mrs was doing 50 she'd been speeding wherever she was caught.

I've only ever seen camera vans on the uphill side, which is a 40 limit all the way up.

[Sebba]

agtlaw said:

It’s 2019 so forget about getting a summons and you can safety ignore anyone who thinks “laying an information” is contemporary practice. Google: Single Justice Procedure Notice time limit or similar and obviously don’t chase it up before the time limit expires.

Thanks very much - looks like I spoke too soon as I received letter advising that I will be receiving a SJPN shortly (this is cutting it pretty fine with the 6 month deadline but may still arrive in time).

Just wanted to get your thoughts on what to do next? I contacted a solicitor who advised me that pleading guilty (56 in a 30) would put me in a serious position of being disqualified (between 7 & 56 days although there is no real upper limit).

Obviously there is a little salesmanship as to utilise his services (to possibly reduce to 6 points or a shorter ban) however do i really need to? It is a little hefty in fees ~ almost £2k

Am confused and obviously little perturbed -

[agtlaw]

If a solicitor advised you to elect a court hearing then he is acting in his own interests, not yours. 56/30 should be dealt with online - with a view to getting 6 points.

[longblackcoat]

Sebba said:

agtlaw said:

It’s 2019 so forget about getting a summons and you can safety ignore anyone who thinks “laying an information” is contemporary practice. Google: Single Justice Procedure Notice time limit or similar and obviously don’t chase it up before the time limit expires.

Thanks very much - looks like I spoke too soon as I received letter advising that I will be receiving a SJPN shortly (this is cutting it pretty fine with the 6 month deadline but may still arrive in time).

Just wanted to get your thoughts on what to do next? I contacted a solicitor who advised me that pleading guilty (56 in a 30) would put me in a serious position of being disqualified (between 7 & 56 days although there is no real upper limit).

Obviously there is a little salesmanship as to utilise his services (to possibly reduce to 6 points or a shorter ban) however do i really need to? It is a little hefty in fees ~ almost £2k

Am confused and obviously little perturbed -

Obviously there's a risk of getting a ban, but if you've got no points at the moment and intend to plead guilty, then I'm not sure what you'll get for your £2k as it'll be a case of mitigation which you don't need to attend court for. Personally I'd use the plea and mitigation form and see what comes back.

[kestral]

agtlaw said:

It’s 2019 so forget about getting a summons and you can safety ignore anyone who thinks “laying an information” is contemporary practice. Google: Single Justice Procedure Notice time limit or similar and obviously don’t chase it up before the time limit expires.

Still seen yer arse then.

[Sheepshanks]

carreauchompeur said:

Yeah, unfortunately in my force too there is a constant backlog of summons files... anything traffic will get served at/after the 5 month mark

You'd think Forces' would pull out the 'big' ones though - a year or so ago colleague got a NIP for 102 on the M25 (he'd been stuck in traffic and was then in flap about missing his flight). Beyond the NIP he never heard anymore about it.