Worth reporting this 'driver'?
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FWIW said:
What the above tells us is that you are one of those (many) people who will sit in the outside lane as long as there is someone in front for you to queue behind, regardless of space in the other lanes. You won’t pull over for fear of losing ‘your’ place in the ‘queue’.
I’d put money on you trying to close the gap on WVM in an attempt to stop him ‘queue jumping’, thereby causing a near miss; that’s why you won’t post the video.
I would place money that the OP is also one of those people who makes a late lunge for his junction as he cannot bare moving into lane one until the last possible momentI’d put money on you trying to close the gap on WVM in an attempt to stop him ‘queue jumping’, thereby causing a near miss; that’s why you won’t post the video.
Edited by FWIW on Saturday 20th July 14:30
VeeFource said:
Wow, you really think that makes sense don't you 
Even if you ignore the fact that moving into lane 2 to make better progress is undertaking, do you think the van driver chose to cut back into lane 3 if being in lane 2 was any better?
I want to be in lane 3 because my trip is AS important as anyone else queuing to go faster. But the person in front has got there before me and has a right to be in that position just as I have a right to be in my position with respect to the van driver behind.
Actually those keep left matrix signs mean to keep left unless overtaking. The part you don't seem to understand is just because someone wasn't physically present to the immediate left of me doesn't mean I'm not overtaking. I am queued up to overtake whatever is causing everyone to be in lane 3 in the first place.
Why has the van driver got more of a right to get past everyone than I have or the vehicles in front of me? He hasn't which means I shouldn't have to move over to let him past. He should have just been patient like the rest of us.
As you state you have "rights" you really do not come across as very emotionally matureEven if you ignore the fact that moving into lane 2 to make better progress is undertaking, do you think the van driver chose to cut back into lane 3 if being in lane 2 was any better?
I want to be in lane 3 because my trip is AS important as anyone else queuing to go faster. But the person in front has got there before me and has a right to be in that position just as I have a right to be in my position with respect to the van driver behind.
Actually those keep left matrix signs mean to keep left unless overtaking. The part you don't seem to understand is just because someone wasn't physically present to the immediate left of me doesn't mean I'm not overtaking. I am queued up to overtake whatever is causing everyone to be in lane 3 in the first place.
Why has the van driver got more of a right to get past everyone than I have or the vehicles in front of me? He hasn't which means I shouldn't have to move over to let him past. He should have just been patient like the rest of us.
do you stamp your feet and hold your breath if things do not go your way?
citizensm1th said:
I would place money that the OP is also one of those people who makes a late lunge for his junction as he cannot bare moving into lane one until the last possible moment
So you're throwing speculations now because you've run out of answers Ok, you go ahead and make yourself feel better about yourself. It will help you cope with with all those big complicated things in life like traffic rules.
ghost83 said:
Sorry but the middle lane was clear there was no reason for you or the ppl behind or the ppl ahead to be in lane 3
Move left when not overtaking it’s as simple as that if you had then the van wouldn’t be coming past in the middle lane
I've already explained why that makes no sense. Reiterating your response doesn't justify your answer.Move left when not overtaking it’s as simple as that if you had then the van wouldn’t be coming past in the middle lane
Anyone else want to help this guy figure things out? Think we'd best work shifts as he's really falling behind the class.
VeeFource said:
citizensm1th said:
I would place money that the OP is also one of those people who makes a late lunge for his junction as he cannot bare moving into lane one until the last possible moment
So you're throwing speculations now because you've run out of answers Ok, you go ahead and make yourself feel better about yourself. It will help you cope with with all those big complicated things in life like traffic rules.
VeeFource said:
I've already explained why that makes no sense. Reiterating your response doesn't justify your answer.
Anyone else want to help this guy figure things out? Think we'd best work shifts as he's really falling behind the class.
You haven’t though you’ve just said you were in a queue of traffic that doesn’t mean you or them can break the rules! You don’t own or police the lane! When you have overtaken you and anyone else must move to the left then indicate and pull out to overtake again! I do 1500 miles per week I see it all the time but it doesn’t make it right! Post the video if you think you’re in the right and I will bet anything there’s more to it! So I emplore you! Post the videoAnyone else want to help this guy figure things out? Think we'd best work shifts as he's really falling behind the class.
OP. Once again I’ll say this and maybe you can try it out next time you’re on a motorway in traffic like this.
Move to the middle lane. Hold your speed. Watch how traffic tomyour right starts to bunch up. Then someone in the “queue” will brake and it will gradually get worse until you start to sail past them whilst holding a steady speed.
You can then easily find a gap to overtake some traffic and pull back in. Then rinse and repeat the above.
I used the A1 the other week and as it was two lanes I found myself with miles of clear road in the inside lane whilst everyone else queues up for no reason in the outside lane.
Oh and post the video.
Move to the middle lane. Hold your speed. Watch how traffic tomyour right starts to bunch up. Then someone in the “queue” will brake and it will gradually get worse until you start to sail past them whilst holding a steady speed.
You can then easily find a gap to overtake some traffic and pull back in. Then rinse and repeat the above.
I used the A1 the other week and as it was two lanes I found myself with miles of clear road in the inside lane whilst everyone else queues up for no reason in the outside lane.
Oh and post the video.
Good call. Time to take a final (probably) bow
Funny thing is every single one of the usual OP-bashing fools (that KNOW exactly what happened from 1 static pic) daily do just what they are berating the OP for supposedly doing. None of them would have moved to the centre lane in that queue, they all would have been equally annoyed when van-man did what he did, and they all would have accelerated to close the gap also.
But as usual it makes them feel big (and probably semi-hard) to bash the OP.
Pathetic.
As for reporting it, OP I would just let it go, unless you had to take evasive action it probably wasn't as dangerous as it felt at the time and lets be honest, van drivers behave this way all the time so you probably partially expected him to do it anyway. I'd save your reporting-anger for something that was really dangerous - what prompted me to get a dashcam was seeing a woman blindly drive her SUV through a pedestrian crossing at 30+mph, her front bumper passing inches from the noses of a group of primary school children that were in the process of stepping onto the crossing. Fortunately I've not seen anything that pucker-inducing since but I was absolutely boiling after seeing that one, went home and bought a dashcam about an hour later as if I'd had that on video I would have reported it ASAP. But for the relatively minor stuff it's probably best to just note how it happened / what caused it for future reference and to move on.
But as usual it makes them feel big (and probably semi-hard) to bash the OP.
Pathetic.
As for reporting it, OP I would just let it go, unless you had to take evasive action it probably wasn't as dangerous as it felt at the time and lets be honest, van drivers behave this way all the time so you probably partially expected him to do it anyway. I'd save your reporting-anger for something that was really dangerous - what prompted me to get a dashcam was seeing a woman blindly drive her SUV through a pedestrian crossing at 30+mph, her front bumper passing inches from the noses of a group of primary school children that were in the process of stepping onto the crossing. Fortunately I've not seen anything that pucker-inducing since but I was absolutely boiling after seeing that one, went home and bought a dashcam about an hour later as if I'd had that on video I would have reported it ASAP. But for the relatively minor stuff it's probably best to just note how it happened / what caused it for future reference and to move on.
VeeFource said:
Yeah you got me. I queue up just like all those other dastardly patient people instead of discerningly weaving through gaps across all lanes. What a hero you are..
Dude, it's NOT A QUEUE.You have space on your left. If you can't make progress, move left. If everyone treated lane 3 as a "queue" in heavy traffic, lanes 1 & 2 would be empty for miles, with just three cars all abreast at the very front.
JimSuperSix said:
Funny thing is every single one of the usual OP-bashing fools (that KNOW exactly what happened from 1 static pic) daily do just what they are berating the OP for supposedly doing. None of them would have moved to the centre lane in that queue, they all would have been equally annoyed when van-man did what he did, and they all would have accelerated to close the gap also.
But as usual it makes them feel big (and probably semi-hard) to bash the OP.
Pathetic.
:lol: not only are you wrong, you’re also pathetic. But as usual it makes them feel big (and probably semi-hard) to bash the OP.
Pathetic.
RogerDodger said:
Dude, it's NOT A QUEUE.
You have space on your left. If you can't make progress, move left. If everyone treated lane 3 as a "queue" in heavy traffic, lanes 1 & 2 would be empty for miles, with just three cars all abreast at the very front.
That’s exactly what happens! You have space on your left. If you can't make progress, move left. If everyone treated lane 3 as a "queue" in heavy traffic, lanes 1 & 2 would be empty for miles, with just three cars all abreast at the very front.
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