Old people with speed guns
Discussion
bigdog3 said:
Is the time coming when 20 will be the village speed limit not 30 ? Got a feeling that can't be far away.
As long as bellends continue to act like they're better than the speed limits imposed on these roads and enforcement is seen to be a bad thing, limits will continue to drop to try to provide a cheap mechanism to slowing traffic down. Sadly it misses the fact that all it does is slow the majority of traffic down, and those who are driving through far in excess of the limit will continue to do so at the same near supersonic speeds.The Surveyor said:
I just don't like a binary application of the 'speed kills' mantra that this promotes. Bad driving kills and speed is only a small factor in that IMHO
I'm certainly not an advocate of speed killing being a binary view, however what has to be stopped is the warp speed passes of the f
king doctor's surgery and school at the top of my road. Speed fking well will kill there.The Surveyor said:
E36GUY said:
ChevronB19 said:
(Edited quote). Seriously - you may well be right that no one in their right mind speeds through villages, but I can assure you that people not in their right mind do in mine. I’d be ok with a 10-15% margin, but here it’s in excess of 60 in a 30. It is stupid, dangerous, pointless, and I really don’t care if ‘busybodies’ do something about it.
And yes, I’ve exceeded speed limits in the past (and at present), but nothing as stupid as more than 40 in a 30 (and if I was caught I’d have no reason to complain).
Same here because of the good sight lines. It's not a busy road but the speed some come past is outrageous. Speed watch should be applauded.And yes, I’ve exceeded speed limits in the past (and at present), but nothing as stupid as more than 40 in a 30 (and if I was caught I’d have no reason to complain).
But that's not what these people are doing, they have a distorted simplistic view the 30mph is safe, and 35mph is going to wipe out the whole WI and local primary school. It's that binary hysteria that 'speed kills' which is ignoring every other aspect of wayward and reckless driving. Their approach is completely wrong, they are not the Police and it isn't their role to police the roads yet they will carry with a blue-rinse tinted view that they are doing their bit and everybody will be safe. Some spotty yoof who receives a letter saying Mrs Miggins mum caught them driving at 45 in a 30 will ignore it, some school-run Mum who gets the same letter saying there were seen rushing to drop-off her sprog at the local nursery will think 'how dare they'.. But it will have NO effect.
What they will likely find is that their perception that everybody speeds through wherever are proven wrong by their figures, they will find that their figures aren't enough to demonstrate to the Council that there is a genuine issue, they will then blame the Council for being wrong because hay, they know best....
bigdog3 said:
Yes I agree but they command attention. Speed limits keep reducing - old NSL rural roads are now 40, long open straights are 50...
Is the time coming when 20 will be the village speed limit not 30 ? Got a feeling that can't be far away.
Ours is 20. However, you can't do a huge amount more than that (unless you're in a big 4x4 or similar) because of the speed humps anyway. But the 20 restriction is limited to the village centre and the part past the school, no more than 400 yards or so, then it goes back to 30. Is the time coming when 20 will be the village speed limit not 30 ? Got a feeling that can't be far away.
bigdog3 said:
So what's the answer? More speed cameras? Those in 20mph zones tend to provoke emergency braking 
I don't know. I am the wrong one to ask. More cars are speeding. We have pretty much the safest roads in the world. Hardly any accidents are caused by speeding it's almost like it's not a problem that needs solving and we could just stick with the 85th percentile. Graveworm said:
bigdog3 said:
So what's the answer? More speed cameras? Those in 20mph zones tend to provoke emergency braking
I don't know. I am the wrong one to ask. More cars are speeding. We have pretty much the safest roads in the world. Hardly any accidents are caused by speeding it's almost like it's not a problem that needs solving and we could just stick with the 85th percentile. 
The local NIMBYs have a speed trap set up near me - a NSL road that drops to 40, then to 30. The 30 is there because it's a residential area, the 40 appears to be there just to start the speed reduction.
What actually happens is most people do 50-60 in the NSL, coast through the 40, then enter the 30 at around 30. The intent of the limit is being met, however the elderly that drive at 45mph everywhere decided they don't like people speeding around them, so they set up a little speed gun area just after the NSL -> 40.
Where the camera crew are set up is still quite a distance from the local houses, so I love to slow down to 40 before I enter the speed trap and then let the backfire erupt. I'm normally in my F-Type which is quite noisy when it comes to the overrun. I usually get every speed gun pointed at me and angry faces in reaction when their guns say "39...38...39...38...37".
The local houses (one of which is mine) are too far to hear that amount of noise, and the only people that suffer from a noisy car on the overrun is the local dirt bike track. I'm guessing they probably don't really care.
What actually happens is most people do 50-60 in the NSL, coast through the 40, then enter the 30 at around 30. The intent of the limit is being met, however the elderly that drive at 45mph everywhere decided they don't like people speeding around them, so they set up a little speed gun area just after the NSL -> 40.
Where the camera crew are set up is still quite a distance from the local houses, so I love to slow down to 40 before I enter the speed trap and then let the backfire erupt. I'm normally in my F-Type which is quite noisy when it comes to the overrun. I usually get every speed gun pointed at me and angry faces in reaction when their guns say "39...38...39...38...37".
The local houses (one of which is mine) are too far to hear that amount of noise, and the only people that suffer from a noisy car on the overrun is the local dirt bike track. I'm guessing they probably don't really care.
Second Best said:
The local NIMBYs have a speed trap set up near me - a NSL road that drops to 40, then to 30. The 30 is there because it's a residential area, the 40 appears to be there just to start the speed reduction.
What actually happens is most people do 50-60 in the NSL, coast through the 40, then enter the 30 at around 30. The intent of the limit is being met, however the elderly that drive at 45mph everywhere decided they don't like people speeding around them, so they set up a little speed gun area just after the NSL -> 40.
Where the camera crew are set up is still quite a distance from the local houses, so I love to slow down to 40 before I enter the speed trap and then let the backfire erupt. I'm normally in my F-Type which is quite noisy when it comes to the overrun. I usually get every speed gun pointed at me and angry faces in reaction when their guns say "39...38...39...38...37".
The local houses (one of which is mine) are too far to hear that amount of noise, and the only people that suffer from a noisy car on the overrun is the local dirt bike track. I'm guessing they probably don't really care.
You do realise that this makes you sound like a spotty 17 yr old? Time to grow up perhaps.What actually happens is most people do 50-60 in the NSL, coast through the 40, then enter the 30 at around 30. The intent of the limit is being met, however the elderly that drive at 45mph everywhere decided they don't like people speeding around them, so they set up a little speed gun area just after the NSL -> 40.
Where the camera crew are set up is still quite a distance from the local houses, so I love to slow down to 40 before I enter the speed trap and then let the backfire erupt. I'm normally in my F-Type which is quite noisy when it comes to the overrun. I usually get every speed gun pointed at me and angry faces in reaction when their guns say "39...38...39...38...37".
The local houses (one of which is mine) are too far to hear that amount of noise, and the only people that suffer from a noisy car on the overrun is the local dirt bike track. I'm guessing they probably don't really care.
Gulf7 said:
I gave them a cheery wave from my Elise once and got the hair dryer pointed at me for the entire length of the village after I'd gone past in response
We had a group doing their thing next village along from ours. Spotted them from quite a distance away (they were wearing hi-viz) so was extremely careful to keep an eye on the speed.Got closer and the old woman pointed the handheld camera at me. Gave her a little scowl as I went past.
Week later got a letter from the police re the community speedwatch initiative and how I'd been 'caught' at 39 in a 30 which I know for a fact is b
ks!Perhaps I should have smiled/waved instead of scowling.
Bobtherallyfan said:
Second Best said:
The local NIMBYs have a speed trap set up near me - a NSL road that drops to 40, then to 30. The 30 is there because it's a residential area, the 40 appears to be there just to start the speed reduction.
What actually happens is most people do 50-60 in the NSL, coast through the 40, then enter the 30 at around 30. The intent of the limit is being met, however the elderly that drive at 45mph everywhere decided they don't like people speeding around them, so they set up a little speed gun area just after the NSL -> 40.
Where the camera crew are set up is still quite a distance from the local houses, so I love to slow down to 40 before I enter the speed trap and then let the backfire erupt. I'm normally in my F-Type which is quite noisy when it comes to the overrun. I usually get every speed gun pointed at me and angry faces in reaction when their guns say "39...38...39...38...37".
The local houses (one of which is mine) are too far to hear that amount of noise, and the only people that suffer from a noisy car on the overrun is the local dirt bike track. I'm guessing they probably don't really care.
You do realise that this makes you sound like a spotty 17 yr old? Time to grow up perhaps.What actually happens is most people do 50-60 in the NSL, coast through the 40, then enter the 30 at around 30. The intent of the limit is being met, however the elderly that drive at 45mph everywhere decided they don't like people speeding around them, so they set up a little speed gun area just after the NSL -> 40.
Where the camera crew are set up is still quite a distance from the local houses, so I love to slow down to 40 before I enter the speed trap and then let the backfire erupt. I'm normally in my F-Type which is quite noisy when it comes to the overrun. I usually get every speed gun pointed at me and angry faces in reaction when their guns say "39...38...39...38...37".
The local houses (one of which is mine) are too far to hear that amount of noise, and the only people that suffer from a noisy car on the overrun is the local dirt bike track. I'm guessing they probably don't really care.
Bobtherallyfan said:
Second Best said:
The local NIMBYs have a speed trap set up near me - a NSL road that drops to 40, then to 30. The 30 is there because it's a residential area, the 40 appears to be there just to start the speed reduction.
What actually happens is most people do 50-60 in the NSL, coast through the 40, then enter the 30 at around 30. The intent of the limit is being met, however the elderly that drive at 45mph everywhere decided they don't like people speeding around them, so they set up a little speed gun area just after the NSL -> 40.
Where the camera crew are set up is still quite a distance from the local houses, so I love to slow down to 40 before I enter the speed trap and then let the backfire erupt. I'm normally in my F-Type which is quite noisy when it comes to the overrun. I usually get every speed gun pointed at me and angry faces in reaction when their guns say "39...38...39...38...37".
The local houses (one of which is mine) are too far to hear that amount of noise, and the only people that suffer from a noisy car on the overrun is the local dirt bike track. I'm guessing they probably don't really care.
You do realise that this makes you sound like a spotty 17 yr old? Time to grow up perhaps.What actually happens is most people do 50-60 in the NSL, coast through the 40, then enter the 30 at around 30. The intent of the limit is being met, however the elderly that drive at 45mph everywhere decided they don't like people speeding around them, so they set up a little speed gun area just after the NSL -> 40.
Where the camera crew are set up is still quite a distance from the local houses, so I love to slow down to 40 before I enter the speed trap and then let the backfire erupt. I'm normally in my F-Type which is quite noisy when it comes to the overrun. I usually get every speed gun pointed at me and angry faces in reaction when their guns say "39...38...39...38...37".
The local houses (one of which is mine) are too far to hear that amount of noise, and the only people that suffer from a noisy car on the overrun is the local dirt bike track. I'm guessing they probably don't really care.
JimSuperSix said:
And this makes you sound like a santimonious joyless fun-sapping finger-wagging plonker. Time to grow up perhaps.
I know this is lightly off-thread but those “backfiring” cars are one of the main signs of a tosser. Nobody other than 17-year old spotty virgins enjoy the sound of somebody’s stbox backfiring. They literally mean “I have no penis and this is the ONLY way I can get any attention”.Countdown said:
JimSuperSix said:
And this makes you sound like a santimonious joyless fun-sapping finger-wagging plonker. Time to grow up perhaps.
I know this is lightly off-thread but those “backfiring” cars are one of the main signs of a tosser. Nobody other than 17-year old spotty virgins enjoy the sound of somebody’s stbox backfiring. They literally mean “I have no penis and this is the ONLY way I can get any attention”.Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff