Old people with speed guns
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A Winner Is You said:
If we're going to use that argument, why should members of the public report crime at all?
It's not a binary scale. Would I report a burglary, yes, what about an accident somewher, yes of course. Would I report someone for not having car tax, nope, what about if they'd been speeding, absolutely not.
Because, I am not a Police officer. That's their lot in life and tbh, someone driving like a tit will end up one of two ways. One, they will crash, two they will get nicked. I am also accutely aware that I have on occasion made some very silly driving calls, and learnt my lesson the hard way. A society filled with curtain twitching weirdos reporting people for doing 34mph in a 30 limit is not my idea of Utopia.
yonex said:
A Winner Is You said:
If we're going to use that argument, why should members of the public report crime at all?
It's not a binary scale. Would I report a burglary, yes, what about an accident somewher, yes of course. Would I report someone for not having car tax, nope, what about if they'd been speeding, absolutely not.
Because, I am not a Police officer. That's their lot in life and tbh, someone driving like a tit will end up one of two ways. One, they will crash, two they will get nicked. I am also accutely aware that I have on occasion made some very silly driving calls, and learnt my lesson the hard way. A society filled with curtain twitching weirdos reporting people for doing 34mph in a 30 limit is not my idea of Utopia.
Countdown said:
yonex said:
I do wonder why any of these people are actually involved with a motoring website, primarily one which (used to be) about sharing the enjoyment of driving?
Because "enjoyment of driving" doesn't mean "driving however i want to and sod everybody else".I
I enjoy driving as much as anybody else on here but if there's a suggestion that my driving might be pissing somebody else off there's no harm in stepping back and thinking about what I'm doing.
You said yourself that you don't speed in urban areas. Me neither, which is why I don't care about CSW. In the same vein I don't care about people with dashcams or people with POLITE vests or Highways Agency, or any other would-be (or actual) Police.
I know there was for me. But then I
I completely agree with your view now, reflects mine.
Which kind of leaves the thought, it's pointless arguing on the internet with people who can't see things from the opposite viewpoint.
Still, worth a try I suppose.
Countdown said:
Because "enjoyment of driving" doesn't mean "driving however i want to and sod everybody else".
I enjoy driving as much as anybody else on here but if there's a suggestion that my driving might be pissing somebody else off there's no harm in stepping back and thinking about what I'm doing.
You said yourself that you don't speed in urban areas. Me neither, which is why I don't care about CSW. In the same vein I don't care about people with dashcams or people with POLITE vests or Highways Agency, or any other would-be (or actual) Police.
Well, a bunch of busy bodies with a speed camera is just a bad, and stupid idea in my book. There's always going to be someone who doesn't like how a.n.other drives, that's life. If you drive like a loon in urban areas, near sensitive places like schools, or otherwise then you deserve everything you get. If however, you like to give it the beans on an open stretch of road, without actually putting anyone in danger, and some snowflake doesn't like it, too bad. They'll get over it. I enjoy driving as much as anybody else on here but if there's a suggestion that my driving might be pissing somebody else off there's no harm in stepping back and thinking about what I'm doing.
You said yourself that you don't speed in urban areas. Me neither, which is why I don't care about CSW. In the same vein I don't care about people with dashcams or people with POLITE vests or Highways Agency, or any other would-be (or actual) Police.
yonex said:
Countdown said:
Because "enjoyment of driving" doesn't mean "driving however i want to and sod everybody else".
I enjoy driving as much as anybody else on here but if there's a suggestion that my driving might be pissing somebody else off there's no harm in stepping back and thinking about what I'm doing.
You said yourself that you don't speed in urban areas. Me neither, which is why I don't care about CSW. In the same vein I don't care about people with dashcams or people with POLITE vests or Highways Agency, or any other would-be (or actual) Police.
Well, a bunch of busy bodies with a speed camera is just a bad, and stupid idea in my book. There's always going to be someone who doesn't like how a.n.other drives, that's life. If you drive like a loon in urban areas, near sensitive places like schools, or otherwise then you deserve everything you get. If however, you like to give it the beans on an open stretch of road, without actually putting anyone in danger, and some snowflake doesn't like it, too bad. They'll get over it. I enjoy driving as much as anybody else on here but if there's a suggestion that my driving might be pissing somebody else off there's no harm in stepping back and thinking about what I'm doing.
You said yourself that you don't speed in urban areas. Me neither, which is why I don't care about CSW. In the same vein I don't care about people with dashcams or people with POLITE vests or Highways Agency, or any other would-be (or actual) Police.
Their actions will have zero impact on you - other than potentially receiving a letter from the police advising you about your speed - so why are you getting all hot and bothered about the issue ?
There's a certain irony in that you call them busybodies but spend your time on here berating them.
KM said:
A sad but safe generation. My older family members speed dramatically too. 90 on country lanes etc. I’d quite happily shop them to the police. For their good and everyone else’s.
Since I’ve been brought up by these idiots I decided I don’t want to be like them and use the amount of points on my license as a trophy.
So please don’t keep tagging me into this daft and endless threat
So you're admitting that you're a grass as well as a troll Since I’ve been brought up by these idiots I decided I don’t want to be like them and use the amount of points on my license as a trophy.
So please don’t keep tagging me into this daft and endless threat
bigdog3 said:
KM said:
We can’t keep going around in these circles, you all like to speed. You can all crack on with that but please don’t try and make it seem that I’m the one in the wrong for disagreeing with it.
So please just accept we won’t ever agree on this and move on.
To be honest, mumsnet seems like they might actually have some sense about them.
I now fully understand why piston heads gets a bad rep in other online communities
Enjoy your time at Mumsnet. Give them my regards So please just accept we won’t ever agree on this and move on.
To be honest, mumsnet seems like they might actually have some sense about them.
I now fully understand why piston heads gets a bad rep in other online communities
, dogo.
Riley Blue said:
Does enforcement of all speed limits have to be a police job? Other traffic offences, including moving traffic offences, are enforced by other agencies. Just a thought, I'm not proposing it should be so.
So long as it's a criminal offence, yes.If it's to be a civil offence like a parking or bus lane infringement, then the criminal stigma has to go with it.
Then we send a message that speeding is not so bad after all. Which some may agree with.
But if you wish to maintain that speeding is highly dangerous, sufficient to carry criminal sanctions, then it does require police rather than civil enforcement.
yonex said:
Countdown said:
Because "enjoyment of driving" doesn't mean "driving however i want to and sod everybody else".
I enjoy driving as much as anybody else on here but if there's a suggestion that my driving might be pissing somebody else off there's no harm in stepping back and thinking about what I'm doing.
You said yourself that you don't speed in urban areas. Me neither, which is why I don't care about CSW. In the same vein I don't care about people with dashcams or people with POLITE vests or Highways Agency, or any other would-be (or actual) Police.
Well, a bunch of busy bodies with a speed camera is just a bad, and stupid idea in my book. There's always going to be someone who doesn't like how a.n.other drives, that's life. If you drive like a loon in urban areas, near sensitive places like schools, or otherwise then you deserve everything you get. If however, you like to give it the beans on an open stretch of road, without actually putting anyone in danger, and some snowflake doesn't like it, too bad. They'll get over it. I enjoy driving as much as anybody else on here but if there's a suggestion that my driving might be pissing somebody else off there's no harm in stepping back and thinking about what I'm doing.
You said yourself that you don't speed in urban areas. Me neither, which is why I don't care about CSW. In the same vein I don't care about people with dashcams or people with POLITE vests or Highways Agency, or any other would-be (or actual) Police.
yonex said:
rscott said:
Nope, but the PCSO who often goes out with our local group can. As can the new SERPV group
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