Old people with speed guns
Discussion
Red 4 said:
Their actions will have zero impact on you - other than potentially receiving a letter from the police advising you about your speed - so why are you getting all hot and bothered about the issue ?
For myself, that would be having to have three meetings at work with an area manager and emails from head office etc and then having to prove I was innocent because the speed watchers (who managed to hold their guns the correct way round on these occasions) sent my information to the police despite being completely wrong. Knowing you are logged on a system, having to explain yourself to said managers etc and being told by the police they are now looking out for you and you will be fined next time is a bit.....well, crap when you haven't done a single thing wrong, no?Digby said:
Red 4 said:
Their actions will have zero impact on you - other than potentially receiving a letter from the police advising you about your speed - so why are you getting all hot and bothered about the issue ?
For myself, that would be having to have three meetings at work with an area manager and emails from head office etc and then having to prove I was innocent because the speed watchers (who managed to hold their guns the correct way round on these occasions) sent my information to the police despite being completely wrong. Knowing you are logged on a system, having to explain yourself to said managers etc and being told by the police they are now looking out for you and you will be fined next time is a bit.....well, crap when you haven't done a single thing wrong, no?There are also clear rules which forbid CSW volunteers signalling to drivers at all, so if one did gesture to you to slow down, then log a formal complaint with the police about it.
I was unaware of the Serps group and the powers they have been issued with. To my mind fair enough give them an old camera and let them get letters sent to people a bit over the limit, but to accredit them is asking for trouble.
Police should do the policing not some group of people who have found a bandwagon of like minded people to jump on. We all know there are so many ways a camera can give false readings if used by those not keeping to standard.
Our local group jump around like Dirty Harry waving the gun and yes I have had the numpties waving at me to slow down. I stopped once and asked them why they were waving, "it sounded like you were going too fast" they confirmed I wasn't but I should still slow down WTF as it sounded too fast.
And that is why they should have no place in criminal prosecutions at all as they are only interested in their area and have an agenda. There are much more deserving ways to spend their twilight years than stood at the side of the road playing policeman.
Police should do the policing not some group of people who have found a bandwagon of like minded people to jump on. We all know there are so many ways a camera can give false readings if used by those not keeping to standard.
Our local group jump around like Dirty Harry waving the gun and yes I have had the numpties waving at me to slow down. I stopped once and asked them why they were waving, "it sounded like you were going too fast" they confirmed I wasn't but I should still slow down WTF as it sounded too fast.
And that is why they should have no place in criminal prosecutions at all as they are only interested in their area and have an agenda. There are much more deserving ways to spend their twilight years than stood at the side of the road playing policeman.
kers out over the Bank Holiday keeping us all safe? 
Digby said:
I forgot the most important example! (I'm sure I posted about it on here so may have to hunt for the specifics)
I received a letter at work suggesting I was traveling at something like 34 or 35 in a 30 zone by CSWs. Unhappy with this because 1) I had seen them and 2) I was in a huge truck trying to climb a large hill, I denied it and asked them to check their tracker system for that date and tacho data. Surprise, surprise, I was under 30 mph.
Is that "cool" enough for you?
Also, for the record, the Essex incident happened in a 30 zone when I was travelling at 20 (all data to prove this was available at the time).
I mentioned earlier in the thread that I got a letter for 39 in a 30 when I'm very certain, no way over 30 (spotted them a while away).I received a letter at work suggesting I was traveling at something like 34 or 35 in a 30 zone by CSWs. Unhappy with this because 1) I had seen them and 2) I was in a huge truck trying to climb a large hill, I denied it and asked them to check their tracker system for that date and tacho data. Surprise, surprise, I was under 30 mph.
Is that "cool" enough for you?
Also, for the record, the Essex incident happened in a 30 zone when I was travelling at 20 (all data to prove this was available at the time).
Old woman clearly didn't like the scowl I gave her as I drove past.
To falsify evidence is very naughty indeed.
bigdog3 said:
Spot the do-gooding old farts in the distance, reduce your speed rapidly, go past at no more than 15mph grinning manically, get your passenger to press their nose against the side window whilst licking the glass. Usually has the desired effect 
A life in the day of bigdog.jeffreywoodham said:
bigdog3 said:
Spot the do-gooding old farts in the distance, reduce your speed rapidly, go past at no more than 15mph grinning manically, get your passenger to press their nose against the side window whilst licking the glass. Usually has the desired effect
How old are you?.
g3org3y said:
I mentioned earlier in the thread that I got a letter for 39 in a 30 when I'm very certain, no way over 30 (spotted them a while away).
Old woman clearly didn't like the scowl I gave her as I drove past.
To falsify evidence is very naughty indeed.
You should have written back to the Police and told them as such.Old woman clearly didn't like the scowl I gave her as I drove past.
To falsify evidence is very naughty indeed.
Countdown said:
g3org3y said:
I mentioned earlier in the thread that I got a letter for 39 in a 30 when I'm very certain, no way over 30 (spotted them a while away).
Old woman clearly didn't like the scowl I gave her as I drove past.
To falsify evidence is very naughty indeed.
You should have written back to the Police and told them as such.Old woman clearly didn't like the scowl I gave her as I drove past.
To falsify evidence is very naughty indeed.
g3org3y said:
It wasn't an SAC or points situation, just a 'warning' letter saying the community speedwatch people caught me and that I should be more careful in the future because children/road deaths etc. Consequently couldn't be arsed. Thought I'd just grumble about it to my wife and to strangers on the internet.
The things is, the Police have your name on a database somewhere as somebody who speeds through built-up areas. I wouldn't be happy with it if it wasn't true. It also suggests that the people who were reporting stuff to the Police were less than honest. What's to say they don't tell the Police that somebody was doing 99mph and nearly ran over a kittien?If they're in the habit of regularly lying then the Police would want to know about it.
Countdown said:
g3org3y said:
It wasn't an SAC or points situation, just a 'warning' letter saying the community speedwatch people caught me and that I should be more careful in the future because children/road deaths etc. Consequently couldn't be arsed. Thought I'd just grumble about it to my wife and to strangers on the internet.
The things is, the Police have your name on a database somewhere as somebody who speeds through built-up areas. I wouldn't be happy with it if it wasn't true. It also suggests that the people who were reporting stuff to the Police were less than honest. What's to say they don't tell the Police that somebody was doing 99mph and nearly ran over a kittien?If they're in the habit of regularly lying then the Police would want to know about it.
jeffreywoodham said:
bigdog3 said:
Spot the do-gooding old farts in the distance, reduce your speed rapidly, go past at no more than 15mph grinning manically, get your passenger to press their nose against the side window whilst licking the glass. Usually has the desired effect
How old are you?
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