Old people with speed guns
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Paul Dishman said:
The parish council of the local villages has had a speed survey carried out on one of the roads through the village, much to their consternation the survey showed that there wasn't a problem with speeding vehicles.
The result is that they are having another survey carried out...
Why not just reduce the speed limit ?The result is that they are having another survey carried out...
bigdog3 said:
Paul Dishman said:
The parish council of the local villages has had a speed survey carried out on one of the roads through the village, much to their consternation the survey showed that there wasn't a problem with speeding vehicles.
The result is that they are having another survey carried out...
Why not just reduce the speed limit ?The result is that they are having another survey carried out...
Paul Dishman said:
The parish council of the local villages has had a speed survey carried out on one of the roads through the village, much to their consternation the survey showed that there wasn't a problem with speeding vehicles.
The result is that they are having another survey carried out...
A lot of the time people don't seem to be able to distinguish between increased speed and increased volume of traffic. The result is that they are having another survey carried out...
Like a sort of NIMBY Heisenberg's Principle.
We have the speeder problem despite 40 prior to a 30 and then 3 slow down signs before 'our' bend.
We've also got a sports club with loads of kids attending, school entrance & bowls club for the ancient all within 200m of each other on this stretch.
Some drivers still don't pay any attention & the squeal of tyres as some round the corner is very familiar.
Moving out of the corner onto the straight is opportunity to floor it & I recognise the sound of each local chavved up Astra.
Some bikers accelerate at an astonishing rate, the noise is painful. Police don't have resources to attend.
I tried to get a couple of dead bodies to throw onto the road without success.
That's our little town.
Might try the speed camera bird box idea.
Free image of pissed off old bloke for you.
We've also got a sports club with loads of kids attending, school entrance & bowls club for the ancient all within 200m of each other on this stretch.
Some drivers still don't pay any attention & the squeal of tyres as some round the corner is very familiar.
Moving out of the corner onto the straight is opportunity to floor it & I recognise the sound of each local chavved up Astra.
Some bikers accelerate at an astonishing rate, the noise is painful. Police don't have resources to attend.
I tried to get a couple of dead bodies to throw onto the road without success.
That's our little town.
Might try the speed camera bird box idea.
Free image of pissed off old bloke for you.
E36GUY said:
ChevronB19 said:
(Edited quote). Seriously - you may well be right that no one in their right mind speeds through villages, but I can assure you that people not in their right mind do in mine. I’d be ok with a 10-15% margin, but here it’s in excess of 60 in a 30. It is stupid, dangerous, pointless, and I really don’t care if ‘busybodies’ do something about it.
And yes, I’ve exceeded speed limits in the past (and at present), but nothing as stupid as more than 40 in a 30 (and if I was caught I’d have no reason to complain).
Same here because of the good sight lines. It's not a busy road but the speed some come past is outrageous. Speed watch should be applauded.And yes, I’ve exceeded speed limits in the past (and at present), but nothing as stupid as more than 40 in a 30 (and if I was caught I’d have no reason to complain).
There is a primary school with time-operated 20 limit signs, to see people doing 20 is also extremely rare. The worst offenders are the schoolrun mums who just go as fast as they can, despite having just dropped off their own children.
Utter t
ts the lot of them, I welcome anything that would give them points and financial pain and get them to either slow down, or get them off the road completely.Paul Dishman said:
bigdog3 said:
Paul Dishman said:
The parish council of the local villages has had a speed survey carried out on one of the roads through the village, much to their consternation the survey showed that there wasn't a problem with speeding vehicles.
The result is that they are having another survey carried out...
Why not just reduce the speed limit ?The result is that they are having another survey carried out...
sim72 said:
We had them in our village, where we had some issues with knobheads speeding in the 30mph part, especially past the school.
They caught so many people (and yes, some were locals) that we now have speed humps and a chicane.
Result, in my opinion.
Do the ambulance drivers and heart attack victims agree? They caught so many people (and yes, some were locals) that we now have speed humps and a chicane.
Result, in my opinion.
The Surveyor said:
I don't think anybody is arguing that driving recklessly or with excessive speed if even remotely acceptable. It isn't and as I said much earlier in the thread, those caught should be punished as the current laws permit.
But that's not what these people are doing, they have a distorted simplistic view the 30mph is safe, and 35mph is going to wipe out the whole WI and local primary school. It's that binary hysteria that 'speed kills' which is ignoring every other aspect of wayward and reckless driving. Their approach is completely wrong, they are not the Police and it isn't their role to police the roads yet they will carry with a blue-rinse tinted view that they are doing their bit and everybody will be safe. Some spotty yoof who receives a letter saying Mrs Miggins mum caught them driving at 45 in a 30 will ignore it, some school-run Mum who gets the same letter saying there were seen rushing to drop-off her sprog at the local nursery will think 'how dare they'.. But it will have NO effect.
What they will likely find is that their perception that everybody speeds through wherever are proven wrong by their figures, they will find that their figures aren't enough to demonstrate to the Council that there is a genuine issue, they will then blame the Council for being wrong because hay, they know best....
You have built a big argument against CSW which looks to me to be based on poor premises:But that's not what these people are doing, they have a distorted simplistic view the 30mph is safe, and 35mph is going to wipe out the whole WI and local primary school. It's that binary hysteria that 'speed kills' which is ignoring every other aspect of wayward and reckless driving. Their approach is completely wrong, they are not the Police and it isn't their role to police the roads yet they will carry with a blue-rinse tinted view that they are doing their bit and everybody will be safe. Some spotty yoof who receives a letter saying Mrs Miggins mum caught them driving at 45 in a 30 will ignore it, some school-run Mum who gets the same letter saying there were seen rushing to drop-off her sprog at the local nursery will think 'how dare they'.. But it will have NO effect.
What they will likely find is that their perception that everybody speeds through wherever are proven wrong by their figures, they will find that their figures aren't enough to demonstrate to the Council that there is a genuine issue, they will then blame the Council for being wrong because hay, they know best....
You talk about 'these people' with their distorted premise that 30 is safe and 35 is unsafe. How do you know that's the case?
You say their approach is completely wrong. It feels fine to me if there is a problem that is speed related why not measure people against a marginal amount over the limit? That's the basis of a lot of speed enforcement, not unique to CSW in any way.
Why is it wrong to want people to observe the speed limit in one's village?
How do you know that the letter has no effect?
How do you know they blame the council because they know best?
As you think CSW operates where they think there's a problem and you know there isn't (how?), does that mean that all the instances of (speeding) problems reported on here are myths and fabrications as well?
I'm guessing that you are ranting more than making proper assertions, in which case crack on
Bert
davebem said:
Im fine with people doing this, in appropriate places, its a bit like neighbourhood watch. However recently I was passing through a local village (between Hinckley and Nuneaton) and one of these 'old people' in a fluorescent jacket with the speed gun crossed the road without looking as I was approaching. When he looked up as I coasted towards he must have assumed I was speeding as didnt expect me to be there and stopped suddenly in the road before the pavement and pointed the camera and I nearly ran him over. I thnk these people need to ensure they have the proper safety training!
Out of interest, where abouts did this happen? I work around there so would be good to know of locations of such activity...Paul Dishman said:
bigdog3 said:
Isn't their perception of excess speed evidence of a real problem?
No, evidence of a bunch of busybodies and moanersIs the time coming when 20 will be the village speed limit not 30 ? Got a feeling that can't be far away.
BertBert said:
You have built a big argument against CSW which looks to me to be based on poor premises:
...
That maybe the case, I certainly don't profess that my opinion trumps everybody else's view. ...
I just don't like a binary application of the 'speed kills' mantra that this promotes. Bad driving kills and speed is only a small factor in that IMHO
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