Van speed limit
Discussion
martinbiz said:
There is no speed limiter required on a combi or any van up to 3.5t they are only restricted because your company ordered them like that. A speed limiter is an option on most light goods vehicles
I believe he was talking legally not physically restricted. The motorhome thing is weird though.
2 of my mates both have 1990s Fiat Ducato based vehicles. One is a short wheelbase van which although quite old has lived a very gentle life and is in great condition. As a van it's restricted to the lower limits
My other mate has the same cab and running gear but his also has a great big coach built MH body with a sink, cooker shower etc and 6 berths. It's quite a monster and one of the larger coach built MHs on that chassis. The motorhome can legally do 60 on single carriageways but the smaller van version is legally restricted to 50.
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
I'll guess they are not. We had a guy work for us who'd driven a Transit for probably 30 years. He recently got his first ticket & was amazed to learn about the speed limits for his vehicle. 
Often the case where I worked. Over a good few years many tickets issued. It does happen.Digby said:
I feel rather sorry for such van drivers. There you are, in something that would struggle to knock over a flower pot if it ended up crashing into a garden, stuck at the same speed as a 44 ton HGV. They sadly fall into the "Hmm, err, what about things a little bigger than a car?" catagory.
Under UK law, vans and trucks under 7500kg are limited to 50/60/70mph.But under supreme EU law things change. Any commercial vehicle over 3500kg used for business has a hard speed limiter of 56mph (90 km/h). Also you need to fit a tachograph and abide by drivers hours. Same law applies if 3500kg GTM is exceeded when towing a trailer.
That's why you see larger vans dragging along motorways, struggling to overtake 44 ton trucks. Also it's the reason why my van business is limited to 3500kg max.
Regardless the EU is pushing to fit tachographs to vans under 3500kg. So no more vans exceeding 70mph when that happens. More regulation is the way forward
Edited by bigdog3 on Thursday 29th August 10:03
We had all over 3.5t hobbled as per requirements. Much gnashing of teeth when it happened but for the company, the savings must have been big but after a while you settled into it. It meant more nights away but probably a good thing.
One van pre limiter and knocking on the weight limit was scary in some conditions, that was a Sprinter. Then you had the Iveco that is basically box with no suspension or steering that was interesting at 70 before the limiter was fitted. And then you would be tootling along when a van you knew should be limited go flying by. But what the heck, NYP.
One van pre limiter and knocking on the weight limit was scary in some conditions, that was a Sprinter. Then you had the Iveco that is basically box with no suspension or steering that was interesting at 70 before the limiter was fitted. And then you would be tootling along when a van you knew should be limited go flying by. But what the heck, NYP.
Zirconia said:
One van pre limiter and knocking on the weight limit was scary in some conditions, that was a Sprinter.
Sprinter had/has stability problems. That's why Mercedes were trying to make ESP a mandatory legal requirement in Germany, for all vans which could exceed 80 km/h (50mph).bigdog3 said:
Zirconia said:
One van pre limiter and knocking on the weight limit was scary in some conditions, that was a Sprinter.
Sprinter had/has stability problems. That's why Mercedes were trying to make ESP a mandatory legal requirement in Germany, for all vans which could exceed 80 km/h (50mph).80km/h tick
120km/hr X
Fine in Marks and held his hand out.
Zirconia said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
I'll guess they are not. We had a guy work for us who'd driven a Transit for probably 30 years. He recently got his first ticket & was amazed to learn about the speed limits for his vehicle.
Often the case where I worked. Over a good few years many tickets issued. It does happen.Zirconia said:
Not related, one driver in Germany stopped by the plod. Tried the "Non sprechan ze Dutche" ploy. Plod wrote on the side of the van in the road dirt.
80km/h tick
120km/hr X
Fine in Marks and held his hand out.
Without any NIP letters in the post, licence endorsement points, condescending speed awareness courses or hikes in insurance premiums. The Germans have it good 80km/h tick
120km/hr X
Fine in Marks and held his hand out.
Zirconia said:
bigdog3 said:
Without any NIP letters in the post, licence endorsement points, condescending speed awareness courses or hikes in insurance premiums. The Germans have it good
It was a few years ago, hence DM as the preferred fine.....No idea what they do now.
Points to it and then can’t really enforce it.
If you’re a German driver then you’re in a far worse position there than a UK driver is over here. Much tighter enforcement, higher financial penalties, fewer points to play with before a ban. However, all that is ignored becomes every road, everywhere is an unrestricted autobahn, or at least that’s the way it’s painted on here.
Lindun said:
Exactly what we do. Create a ghost licence apply
Points to it and then can’t really enforce it.
If you’re a German driver then you’re in a far worse position there than a UK driver is over here. Much tighter enforcement, higher financial penalties, fewer points to play with before a ban. However, all that is ignored becomes every road, everywhere is an unrestricted autobahn, or at least that’s the way it’s painted on here.
Several years since I was fined on the spot for speeding by the Polizei (100km/h zone). Police attitude was very amicable back then. Shame that Germany has gone sour just like the UK Points to it and then can’t really enforce it.
If you’re a German driver then you’re in a far worse position there than a UK driver is over here. Much tighter enforcement, higher financial penalties, fewer points to play with before a ban. However, all that is ignored becomes every road, everywhere is an unrestricted autobahn, or at least that’s the way it’s painted on here.
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