Horses on roads

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CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

199 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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av185 said:
It's an absolute outrage that in this day and age Fi Fi riding her prize stallion Dobbin is still allowed to cause carnage on our already cluttered up slow moving road network.

And to allow them to take any number of massive dumps especially on fast corners which at best plays havoc with your car paintwork at worst takes out a few motorcyclists in the process. Why can't they take horsey poo bags and clear up after their pets like big dog owners??

And all based on some ancient law passed in c 1825.

An absolute fking disgrace.
Given that most of the delay and carnage is caused by motorists, you are poorly placed to take any sort of moral high ground.

av185

18,531 posts

128 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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CrutyRammers said:
Given that most of the delay and carnage is caused by motorists, you are poorly placed to take any sort of moral high ground.
Poorly placed?

Hardly.

Us heavily taxed motorists pay dearly for the privilege of roadspace whereas Fi Fi and Dobbin don't pay a penny. And cause havoc to boot.

The only contribution they make is horsest for the rhubarb crop.

Oh yeah and a few dead motorcyclists.

DoubleD

22,154 posts

109 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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av185 said:
CrutyRammers said:
Given that most of the delay and carnage is caused by motorists, you are poorly placed to take any sort of moral high ground.
Poorly placed?

Hardly.

Us heavily taxed motorists pay dearly for the privilege of roadspace whereas Fi Fi and Dobbin don't pay a penny. And cause havoc to boot.

The only contribution they make is horsest for the rhubarb crop.

Oh yeah and a few dead motorcyclists.
Havoc? Where? How long does this havoc last?

av185

18,531 posts

128 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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DoubleD said:
av185 said:
CrutyRammers said:
Given that most of the delay and carnage is caused by motorists, you are poorly placed to take any sort of moral high ground.
Poorly placed?

Hardly.

Us heavily taxed motorists pay dearly for the privilege of roadspace whereas Fi Fi and Dobbin don't pay a penny. And cause havoc to boot.

The only contribution they make is horsest for the rhubarb crop.

Oh yeah and a few dead motorcyclists.
Havoc? Where? How long does this havoc last?
You haven't been to the Appleby horse fair via the A66 have you?

warch

2,941 posts

155 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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CrutyRammers said:
av185 said:
It's an absolute outrage that in this day and age Fi Fi riding her prize stallion Dobbin is still allowed to cause carnage on our already cluttered up slow moving road network.

And to allow them to take any number of massive dumps especially on fast corners which at best plays havoc with your car paintwork at worst takes out a few motorcyclists in the process. Why can't they take horsey poo bags and clear up after their pets like big dog owners??

And all based on some ancient law passed in c 1825.

An absolute fking disgrace.
Given that most of the delay and carnage is caused by motorists, you are poorly placed to take any sort of moral high ground.
This. There are about 8 accidents a day involving horses, and about 250 a day involving cars.

I assume av185 is typing this shortly before his bedtime.

av185

18,531 posts

128 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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warch said:
This. There are about 8 accidents a day involving horses, and about 250 a day involving cars.

I assume av185 is typing this shortly before his bedtime.
That's correct I need an early night had a very stressful day stuck in traffic behind some mules who strangely enough thought they owned the road....rolleyes

av185

18,531 posts

128 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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warch said:
This. There are about 8 accidents a day involving horses, and about 250 a day involving cars.
Proves zilch.

I suppose you haven't factored in there are proportionately waay more cars than Dobbins on the road at any point in time. rolleyes

warch

2,941 posts

155 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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av185 said:
there are proportionately waay more cars than Dobbins on the road at any point in time. rolleyes
Yes but a car has brakes, mirrors and various other safety gubbins, so there is absolutely no reason on earth to have a crash whilst driving one. Remove the occasional act of God from the equation and I reckon cars cause waay (sic) more havoc than gee gees.

DoubleD

22,154 posts

109 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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av185 said:
DoubleD said:
av185 said:
CrutyRammers said:
Given that most of the delay and carnage is caused by motorists, you are poorly placed to take any sort of moral high ground.
Poorly placed?

Hardly.

Us heavily taxed motorists pay dearly for the privilege of roadspace whereas Fi Fi and Dobbin don't pay a penny. And cause havoc to boot.

The only contribution they make is horsest for the rhubarb crop.

Oh yeah and a few dead motorcyclists.
Havoc? Where? How long does this havoc last?
You haven't been to the Appleby horse fair via the A66 have you?
Is that the fair that is 3 days a year?

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

199 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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av185 said:
You haven't been to the Appleby horse fair via the A66 have you?
To which I'll raise you, any out of town shopping centre on a bank holiday

Retroman

972 posts

134 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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av185 said:
Poorly placed?

Hardly.

Us heavily taxed motorists pay dearly for the privilege of roadspace whereas Fi Fi and Dobbin don't pay a penny. And cause havoc to boot.
What about about the thousands of low emission and historical cars that pay £0 for VED?

av185

18,531 posts

128 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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Retroman said:
av185 said:
Poorly placed?

Hardly.

Us heavily taxed motorists pay dearly for the privilege of roadspace whereas Fi Fi and Dobbin don't pay a penny. And cause havoc to boot.
What about about the thousands of low emission and historical cars that pay £0 for VED?
And lots of ££s in petrol tax.

lyonspride

2,978 posts

156 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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spookly said:
Is there any legislation about horses on roads? Are they allowed anywhere they like?

Just wondering, as I keep seeing a couple of nags clogging up the roads in the morning when I'm off to walk my dogs. I have no idea why they'd want to be riding in the middle of a town, and also nowhere near a place suitable for horses to go for off road exercise.

I assume they are allowed to despite the silliness of it not being a particularly enjoyable place to ride, or that they hold up all the morning traffic on a moderately busy road.
You'll find they're doing it deliberately, there's a certain breed of horse rider, they don't need to work, they're bored, and they like to go out in rush hour to cause agro in their "Polite" vests. I personally think the RSPCA should take their animals off them, because they're putting them into a stressful situation with passing cars, buses, trucks, motorbikes and a lot of impatient drivers.

DoubleD

22,154 posts

109 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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av185 said:
Retroman said:
av185 said:
Poorly placed?

Hardly.

Us heavily taxed motorists pay dearly for the privilege of roadspace whereas Fi Fi and Dobbin don't pay a penny. And cause havoc to boot.
What about about the thousands of low emission and historical cars that pay £0 for VED?
And lots of ££s in petrol tax.
There is TAX on things that people buy for horses.

av185

18,531 posts

128 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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DoubleD said:
Is that the fair that is 3 days a year?
The very one.

Trouble is it takes 5 days to get there.

av185

18,531 posts

128 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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DoubleD said:
There is TAX on things that people buy for horses.
So the tax on e.g. hay is proprtionately the same as car fuel. scratchchin

DoubleD

22,154 posts

109 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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av185 said:
DoubleD said:
There is TAX on things that people buy for horses.
So the tax on e.g. hay is proprtionately the same as car fuel. scratchchin
People who have hoses pay tax on all sorts of products, not just hay.

How much tax does the government get from an electric car?

spookly

Original Poster:

4,025 posts

96 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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CrutyRammers said:
How long were you held up for? A minute? Two?
I wasn't moaning about me being held up in particular. But yes, probably a minute or two, but almost daily. Sometimes they end up with quite a tailback behind them.

The point being that just because it is legal doesn't mean that it isn't also profoundly antisocial. As I said before, I'd be more considerate than to do something deliberately, and on a regular basis, that holds up other road users.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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Hay is zero rated as its animal feed. laugh

DoubleD

22,154 posts

109 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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spookly said:
CrutyRammers said:
How long were you held up for? A minute? Two?
I wasn't moaning about me being held up in particular. But yes, probably a minute or two, but almost daily. Sometimes they end up with quite a tailback behind them.

The point being that just because it is legal doesn't mean that it isn't also profoundly antisocial. As I said before, I'd be more considerate than to do something deliberately, and on a regular basis, that holds up other road users.
A minute or two almost daily, so lets be generous and call that 10 minutes a week. Hardly the end of the world is it.