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TVRnutcase

153 posts

231 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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anonymous said:
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Quite possible facing another trial on other matters - ie rape

lyonspride

2,978 posts

156 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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anonymous said:
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Ethnicity?

Sensitive subject in NZ at the moment, understandably.

The Mad Monk

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10,474 posts

118 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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lyonspride said:
Ethnicity?

Sensitive subject in NZ at the moment, understandably.
Why is that?

lyonspride

2,978 posts

156 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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The Mad Monk said:
lyonspride said:
Ethnicity?

Sensitive subject in NZ at the moment, understandably.
Why is that?
Christchurch?
Have you been asleep for the last 12 months? wink

The Mad Monk

Original Poster:

10,474 posts

118 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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lyonspride said:
Christchurch?
Have you been asleep for the last 12 months? wink
I must have been.

What does "Christchurch?" mean?

kurokawa

584 posts

109 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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Jimmy Recard said:
You’re right, there’s no chance of getting murdered in Britain


People die at home or abroad. It shouldn’t stop anyone from wanting to travel somewhere which is typically safe (for instance New Zealand)
I don’t really get the issue of those, I got a gap year right after graduation, travel around the world in place in Hong Kong, Taiwan, Eastern Europe, Thailand, Malaysia etc. Never in any danger, I found my nine months trip to be more valuable than the 3-4 years in university

Greshamst

2,072 posts

121 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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lyonspride said:
Ethnicity?

Sensitive subject in NZ at the moment, understandably.
You must be a troll... surely?!

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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Found guilty. Not a huge surprise.

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An alternative approach to guessing is to actually read some of the articles covering the matter.

Or even the topic...


Fckitdriveon

1,039 posts

91 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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Throw away the key imho.

The behaviour subsequent to the event paints a damning picture.


Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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anonymous said:
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The guilty party is mixed, he looks part white european and part Maori or Pacific Island. Which as you allude to has nothing to do with name suppression

lyonspride

2,978 posts

156 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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anonymous said:
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The question which you have kindly quoted, simply asked why it was secret, and I simply cited one possible reason. There was no need to research anything, because I wasn't looking for the guys name. Sometimes the names of criminals are kept under wraps in order to prevent civil unrest.

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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anonymous said:
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In a recent fraud trial where a friend gave evidence (tax fraud) one of the 3 accused was granted permanent suppression despite being found guilty. The reason being that the guilty party was currently (then) working somewhere else and for a prominent family owned business and it was deemed harmful on them if his name was released. I think that's fair

To appeal in this murder case the guilty party will need to site a reason such as bias or error. They have 30 days to file. It would seem their chances of being granted a new trial are slim to none. I suspect when this is exhausted his name suppression will be lifted.

The suppression order does not apply in the UK and his name is known. I think it fair to suppress as it can be prejudicial.

Greshamst

2,072 posts

121 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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Something else I wasn’t aware of that’s being reported in the guardian, not only did he watch porn whilst she lay dead on his floor but...
“Watched eight clips of child sexual abuse”.


PurpleTurtle

7,016 posts

145 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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Named and photo published by Mail Online.

BlackTails

620 posts

56 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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lyonspride said:
The question which you have kindly quoted, simply asked why it was secret, and I simply cited one possible reason. There was no need to research anything, because I wasn't looking for the guys name. Sometimes the names of criminals are kept under wraps in order to prevent civil unrest.
You really do sound like someone who has gathered their legal education from watching cheap television.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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There is much debate in developed countries about anonymity for defendants facing criminal charges, serous or minor. NZ has adopted the policy of anonymity for those facing serious charges. This has zero to do with ethnic issues. It is a policy aimed at protecting the right to a fair trial. The UK adopts a different policy in most cases involving adult defendants

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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Breadvan72 said:
There is much debate in developed countries about anonymity for defendants facing criminal charges, serous or minor. NZ has adopted the policy of anonymity for those facing serious charges. This has zero to do with ethnic issues. It is a policy aimed at protecting the right to a fair trial. The UK adopts a different policy in most cases involving adult defendants
Quite right to do so in this case as the guilty party is from a rather fragmented family with step-brother having given media interviews(UK media) and spilled the beans as to his bad relationship with their family due to theft of money and compulsive lying. There was also an interview from other people he knew at previous jobs who described him as weird and fixated with chasing woman.

Gary Woodland

2,552 posts

163 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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Greshamst said:
Something else I wasn’t aware of that’s being reported in the guardian, not only did he watch porn whilst she lay dead on his floor but...
“Watched eight clips of child sexual abuse”.
Why on earth was that not mentioned earlier in the case? You'd think that would immediately get a jury on the side of the prosecutors. I hope this creep dies in prison.

BlackTails

620 posts

56 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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There is a short explanation here: https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/reports/a29887214/... as to why the NZ courts are continuing, even after the conviction, to maintain anonymity.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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anonymous said:
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You didn’t suggest ‘one possible reason’ because it’s not a reason that would allow a judge to grant an order.

A ‘possible reason’ would be one which is actually exists.

You made something up and decided to post it.

Don’t confuse the two.