Medium Swiss army knife with locking blade

Medium Swiss army knife with locking blade

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Mario149

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7,758 posts

179 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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227bhp said:
OP why do you feel the need to carry a knife around with you? Are you still waiting for that chance to pick a stone out of a horses hoof?
Maybe I missed it, but I haven't seen you come up with a good reason for it yet.
I don't carry a "knife" around with me. I carry a multitool that happens to be a SAK that happens to have a knife as one of its tools. Why do I carry it around? Convenience. I just opened a bunch of parcels with it. Cut the tags etc off some new trainers. Opened a bottle of wine with it last night. Trimmed the top off a bag of coffee with it at work the other day to get to the bottom more easily. Cut up some ham sandwiches at my daughters birthday the other day when the village hall kitchen didn't have any knives of its own. Removed some drawing pins from a wall in same village hall. The list goes on.

If you can't see obvious reasons why someone might want to carry a SAK or similar on them, then it does rather suggest that you pre-judge people who do as Rambo/Bear Grylls types without thinking a bit more deeply about it.



V8RX7

26,919 posts

264 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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227bhp said:
OP why do you feel the need to carry a knife around with you? Are you still waiting for that chance to pick a stone out of a horses hoof?
Maybe I missed it, but I haven't seen you come up with a good reason for it yet.
I also carry one - have done for 30 yrs

I'm a builder and live on a small holding - mine gets used multiple times a day, if I'm in my work clothes, it's on me.

Yes sometimes a key, screwdriver, lever or stanley knife would suffice but my knife does it all

I insist on one that I can open single handed and locks - invaluable and much safer, I treated myself to a 3" Spyderco some years ago.

With all the hysteria I have considered a non locking one but they are all inferior.


227bhp

10,203 posts

129 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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Mario149 said:
227bhp said:
OP why do you feel the need to carry a knife around with you? Are you still waiting for that chance to pick a stone out of a horses hoof?
Maybe I missed it, but I haven't seen you come up with a good reason for it yet.
I don't carry a "knife" around with me. I carry a multitool that happens to be a SAK that happens to have a knife as one of its tools. Why do I carry it around? Convenience. I just opened a bunch of parcels with it. Cut the tags etc off some new trainers. Opened a bottle of wine with it last night. Trimmed the top off a bag of coffee with it at work the other day to get to the bottom more easily. Cut up some ham sandwiches at my daughters birthday the other day when the village hall kitchen didn't have any knives of its own. Removed some drawing pins from a wall in same village hall. The list goes on.

If you can't see obvious reasons why someone might want to carry a SAK or similar on them, then it does rather suggest that you pre-judge people who do as Rambo/Bear Grylls types without thinking a bit more deeply about it.
How does the other 99.9% of the British population manage? With a pair of scissors, bottle opener and a kitchen knife.

You sound like some type of Alan Partridge guy who has a huge bunch of keys hanging from his belt too. None of which fit anything. 'No don't go into the kitchen dear, use my proper Swiss Army knife, rrrrrr, hear me roar!'
What were you thinking when you took a knife into an airport 6 times? You were either thinking something stupid, or not thinking at all. You're one of the reasons we have these laws and why Rodney the camper gets a criminal record for having a knife as part of his tool kit in his car.

Mario149

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7,758 posts

179 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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227bhp said:
How does the other 99.9% of the British population manage? With a pair of scissors, bottle opener and a kitchen knife.

You sound like some type of Alan Partridge guy who has a huge bunch of keys hanging from his belt too. None of which fit anything. 'No don't go into the kitchen dear, use my proper Swiss Army knife, rrrrrr, hear me roar!'
What were you thinking when you took a knife into an airport 6 times? You were either thinking something stupid, or not thinking at all. You're one of the reasons we have these laws and why Rodney the camper gets a criminal record for having a knife as part of his tool kit in his car.
They manage fine. Just like some people manage with a fiesta but others prefer to have a mondeo estate because: convenience and personal preference. If you can't understand that then nothing I say is going to make a difference.

How did my SAK end up in the airport on multiple occasions? Simple, the same way my keys and wallet did. They all live in my pockets on a daily basis and sometimes you forget what is in your pockets.

Funnily enough the security there didn't seem to get a bee in their bonnet or pre-judge me like you appear to be doing. They didn't even see the need on any occasion to ask me what it was for. Presumably because it's blindingly obvious to most people why someone might choose to have a completely legal thing in their pocket that they find useful. 3 times when I took it out having emptied my pockets at security, they measured the blade, said "fine sir carry on". And 3 times they said "sorry, please put it in a hold bag or use this service to post it home". Seems to vary by airport interestingly.

For the avoidance of doubt, I wouldn't encourage people to attempt to travel with a SAK on their person on an aircraft as if they don't let you take it onboard and there's no postal service available, you may have to leave it with them and lose it.





Dixy

2,931 posts

206 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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Except when flying from Geneva, where you can buy them having passed through security.

V8RX7

26,919 posts

264 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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Mario149 said:
How did my SAK end up in the airport on multiple occasions? Simple, the same way my keys and wallet did. They all live in my pockets on a daily basis and sometimes you forget what is in your pockets.
I only carry mine in my work trousers and am a bit wary of airport security.

So when I needed it at the bloody airport as the mini padlock on my bag had jammed, I asked an armed Police officer, who kindly produced a multi tool from his belt !


Mario149

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Tuesday 10th December 2019
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V8RX7 said:
Mario149 said:
How did my SAK end up in the airport on multiple occasions? Simple, the same way my keys and wallet did. They all live in my pockets on a daily basis and sometimes you forget what is in your pockets.
I only carry mine in my work trousers and am a bit wary of airport security.

So when I needed it at the bloody airport as the mini padlock on my bag had jammed, I asked an armed Police officer, who kindly produced a multi tool from his belt !
hehe please tell me he mimed shooting the lock off your bag before he gave you the tool rotate

I get on a plane for various reasons about 10 times a year on average. So by my calcs I manage to remember to put mine in hold baggage 85% of the time or so.

Mario149

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Tuesday 10th December 2019
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Dixy said:
Except when flying from Geneva, where you can buy them having passed through security.
hehe

MC Bodge

21,706 posts

176 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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My aforementioned small, thin handled pocket knife and a prybar/bottle opener/multi spanner/driver keyring do me for most on the move tasks.

A knife with a tab at the hinge the end of the blade that can be held down with the thumb to prevent it closing is a good compromise. The Swiss army knife blades aren't held that firmly open by the spring.

V8RX7

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264 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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MC Bodge said:
A knife with a tab at the hinge the end of the blade that can be held down with the thumb to prevent it closing is a good compromise.
I've looked at various sellers - including Hennie and all I've seen are tat, if you know of a good one - post it up.

SlimJim16v

5,693 posts

144 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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V8RX7 said:
I've looked at various sellers - including Hennie and all I've seen are tat, if you know of a good one - post it up.
That'll be the Higonokami, a classic Japanese knife.

The safest are the Spyderco PITS and Boker Plus XS, followed by the Spyderco UKPK, though they look a little bit stabby. The Spyderco Urban is a bit smaller, the Squeak smaller still.

MC Bodge

21,706 posts

176 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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The Svord Peasant Mini is simple and robust. I foolishly bought the full size one, but should have bought the Mini, the UK legal one.

V8RX7

26,919 posts

264 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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SlimJim16v said:
That'll be the Higonokami, a classic Japanese knife.

The safest are the Spyderco PITS and Boker Plus XS, followed by the Spyderco UKPK, though they look a little bit stabby. The Spyderco Urban is a bit smaller, the Squeak smaller still.
Yes - the Higonokami - it's nasty

The PITS is new to me - looks like it would probably do the job - but £276 !!! It would be embarrassing to be mugged for your knife !

V8RX7

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264 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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MC Bodge said:
The Svord Peasant Mini is simple and robust. I foolishly bought the full size one, but should have bought the Mini, the UK legal one.
Peasant sums it up, it looks like it cost £1

There really ought to be something better - that doesn't cost £276 !

(My rifle cost less than that)

MC Bodge

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176 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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V8RX7 said:
Peasant sums it up, it looks like it cost £1

There really ought to be something better - that doesn't cost £276 !

(My rifle cost less than that)
It's a tool. Not a man bracelet

V8RX7

26,919 posts

264 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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MC Bodge said:
It's a tool. Not a man bracelet
Most of mine are from Dewalt not poundland

Toltec

7,161 posts

224 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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V8RX7 said:
Peasant sums it up, it looks like it cost £1

There really ought to be something better - that doesn't cost £276 !

(My rifle cost less than that)
I have one of these
https://www.springfields.co.uk/lansky-world-legal-...

I don't use it that often, but handy if you need something legal with a heavy-ish blade. The back spring is quite strong so it takes both hands to open and close. It is also quite cheap.

defblade

7,443 posts

214 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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V8RX7 said:
I've looked at various sellers - including Hennie and all I've seen are tat, if you know of a good one - post it up.
The Boker Plus Subcom is a sturdy little thing which simply will not close on you in use. The tail makes it a little less pocket friendly for me, although the thinness makes up for it. A steal at the current price - if you're thinking about this sort of knife at all, get an order in quick!

The Wasabi is a very elegant take on it (I've linked to the cheapest, G10 scales, version which is what I have). The downside with this knife is, for me, that its size and shape seem to make me want to hold it sideways in use, which then means I'm not holding it locked... but it's my favourite knife for simply fiddling with and looking at smile

The higonokami are indeed, in the simplest versions, cheap but functional tools. They can be improved on fit and finish with a few minutes work, and don't pretend to be anything they're not. I have one because where else are you going to get a handmade Japanese blade for a tenner?! Also, check out the factory, on their website: https://www.higonokami.jp/en/aboutus.html


Also, possibly consider the Bean - it doesn't have the tail on it, but does have a fairly decent detent in the open position, which finger pressure can improve more, and has enough of a choil to let your finger help there, and you can use a finger in/against the opening slot for further stability. But that's pushing this one beyond what it's designed for, really. It's in my pocket today and does good work on boxes, security seals, envelopes and the like all day at work.
You can buy version of the Bean with a tail, but you have to keep an eye on Serge's website and have rather deeper pockets than needed above!
He does currently have this sort of friction folder available for pre-order: http://sergeknives.com/available.html
They will be great knives, but at that sort of price I know I'd never dare actually use them (I've got a £70 CF Enzo which has barely left its box!), so short of a Euromillions win, they're kinda useless for me...

MC Bodge

21,706 posts

176 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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V8RX7 said:
MC Bodge said:
It's a tool. Not a man bracelet
Most of mine are from Dewalt not poundland
I'm sorry. I hadn't realised that good steel and a chunky, robust blade on a cost effective package wasn't what you were after.

Is it the equivalent of the watch fetishist "wrist check" when you enter Travis Perkins? Casually exposing your tool?


Some Guy

2,130 posts

92 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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V8RX7 said:
I've looked at various sellers - including Hennie and all I've seen are tat, if you know of a good one - post it up.
The Higonokami by Hiroaki Ohta are very good.
https://www.knivesandtools.co.uk/en/ct/japanse-poc...



Or if you want to put your spending trousers on..........
https://global.rakuten.com/en/store/revolut1/item/...